[VS] Prime Nagato w Paths vs Minato&Tobirama

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I don't see how a space time barrier will fail at that.

Because it has to make contact with whatever it wants to absorb, as the manga shows. It being a rip in space doesn't change that.

Either way, even if we go with that (even though it does not make any sense in the manga context) both of them have FTG, they can teleport away, and return after the attack, to destroy weakened Nagato. Even though I don't see why people give him credits that he will somehow be faster than the fastest man in history, and the fastest man in his time, when he couldn't even dodge itachi or B. Lol
Except no manga context supports the barrier warping something it can't even touch.

Shinra Tensei is instant, and it can't be predicted, as seen when SM Naruto failed to see it coming pretty much every time it was used. If Minato and Tobirama attack, Nagato simply uses Shinra Tensei, and they become paste on the ground.

Also, Minato can use a physical barrier anyway that can, apparently, hold even full Kurama.

Holding a Bijuu in place=/=Being able to tank CST.
 

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So you are saying Minato will put up a barrier between him and the CST and the CST will hit him instead of going into the barrier ?

Yup.


Minato doesn't need to make contact with something in order to teleport it away with S/T Barrier

-Juubi's Bijuu Dama.

-Kurama's Bijuu Dama.

Yes he does, somewhat.


He open a rift between point A and point B and if you went into that rift you get teleported , I don't see why CST will not go into that rift that is staying between Minato and the attack .

It's not going to go into the rift, because it's a repulsive force. Can't pull an intangible force into a barrier.
 

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There is literally nothing to pull into the barrier since it's an intangible force, don't know why you guys are trying to argue he can pull something in that doesn't even have a physical form. Lol. It's like saying he can pull gravity into his barrier.
 

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Because it has to make contact with whatever it wants to absorb, as the manga shows. It being a rip in space doesn't change that.


Except no manga context supports the barrier warping something it can't even touch.

Shinra Tensei is instant, and it can't be predicted, as seen when SM Naruto failed to see it coming pretty much every time it was used. If Minato and Tobirama attack, Nagato simply uses Shinra Tensei, and they become paste on the ground.



Holding a Bijuu in place=/=Being able to tank CST.

Except the ST is basically a force to push what in its way.

I don't see how is the barrier going to be non-existing here.

- FTG is instant as well, and both of their reaction, and physical speed is far above Nagato, it's not even close. Not to mention CST needs time to be used as seen when Katsuyu protected every single one during that time, you're telling me that a snail is faster than Minato and Tobirama? Lol

If he was that fast, then why did he not protect himself from itachi and B's attacks? Do not tell me you believe they are faster than Minato and Tobirama. Lol

- Except that this Bijuu has TBB that is superior to anything Nagato has, including his CST. Even 8tails with half the power was powerful enough to destroy CT, which is superior to CST.

Needless to say, I don't see why would Nagato go to CST right away anyway. It's not like if he's fighting a village.
 
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Nagato takes it. Moves like Chibaku tensei and CST shit on the duo.
 

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Lol CST isn't even needed.
A pinpointed boss sized ST breaks every bone in their body.
Or nagato can just one shot them with CT
 

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Lol CST isn't even needed.
A pinpointed boss sized ST breaks every bone in their body.
Or nagato can just one shot them with CT

BS. Lol
it did not even defeat Kakashi, or Choji. Lol
Minato took a direct hit from JJ SM Madara. Lol

Not as if Nagato will have the time to even use ST to begin with.

Lol, CT get warped away. Or they teleport to somewhere else. lol
 
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Minato and tobirama win. The time interval between shinra tenseis is waaaay too much for shinobi this fast.

CST and ct are things nagato wont get an opportunity to use, he'll get marked before he can and killed. A juubi jinchuriki obito got tagged by this duo, nagato is like a sitting duck by comparison.

He doesnt even have legs.
 

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Except the ST is basically a force to push what in its way.

I don't see how is the barrier going to be non-existing here.

That force caused the trees to be ripped up, which caused that stuff to kick up from the ground. S/T has shown multiple times to be completely intangible.

- FTG is instant as well, and both of their reaction, and physical speed is far above Nagato, it's not even close. Not to mention CST needs time to be used as seen when Katsuyu protected every single one during that time, you're telling me that a snail is faster than Minato and Tobirama? Lol

Irrelevant if Hiraishin is instant, and it's irrelevant if Minato and Tobirama have better reactions than Nagato. They can't anticipate Shinra Tensei. They can't predict it before it actually comes, so they won't know to activate Hiraishin before he uses it, and once he uses it, it's too late since it's instantaneous.

CST needed time to be used when Pain used it, cause he had to shut down the other Pain bodies. Not to mention he used it over a widespread area, so it took longer to actually connect.

If he was that fast, then why did he not protect himself from itachi and B's attacks? Do not tell me you believe they are faster than Minato and Tobirama. Lol
Irrelevant.

- Except that this Bijuu has TBB that is superior to anything Nagato has, including his CST. Even 8tails with half the power was powerful enough to destroy CT, which is superior to CST.
Except physically restraining Kurama=/=Being able to tank all it's attacks.

Needless to say, I don't see why would Nagato go to CST right away anyway. It's not like if he's fighting a village.

Never said he will, but they can't finish him before he decides to use it.
 

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BS. Lol
it did not even defeat Kakashi, or Choji. Lol
a Bosss sized ST eradicated the boss toads, sending them kilometers away as well, it wasnt used on those 2 at all, the ST used on choji an kakashi was nothing
had nagato pinpointed an ST that strong on kakashi and choji from a close distance, and they would have been turned to tomato paste,
Minato took a direct hit from JJ SM Madara. Lol
Lol the only thing he took was a staff hit, which resulted in his arm chopped off,
and if youre saying that hes durable enough to tank CST then Lol
Not as if Nagato will have the time to even use ST to begin with.
Lets see,
Minato and Tobirama come close to attack him,
nagato sees and reacts to their shunshin, and uses a boss sized ST instantly to send them flying
Lol, CT get warped away. Or they teleport to somewhere else. lol
Not when all their markings get suckked up, and they get killed
 
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So wait S/T Barrier can trap gravity now? LMAO Minato fans never cease to amaze me.
 

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You must be shitting me. KG, you cba to deal with this Lol
 

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Against two Hiraishin users who've had time to prepare their kunai, Nagato will probably have quite a poor hit rate with his most deadly techniques. Banshou Ten'in and the abilities of both Ningendou (Human Path) & Shuradou (Asura Path) will be pretty much useless. Any form of Shinra Tensei is risky because Nagato could quite easily be molested during the cool-down period. Troublesome summons like Cerberus can always be warped away in a similar fashion to the Juubi's Bijuu Dama, although, of course, Nagato can always summon them back.

I just don't know how Nagato'll deal with those kunai. Seals are permanent, so any paths marked just give either Minato or Tobirama another route towards Nagato or away from any immediate danger. Jigokudou's (Naraka Path's) healing power only delays the inevitable, and its interrogative abilities are worthless because neither or the duo can be forcefully held down with Hiraishin in play.

Chibaku Tensei is, as always, a game changer but I reckon Nagato is the underdog because of various Flying Thunder God combinations.
 

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Against two Hiraishin users who've had time to prepare their kunai, Nagato will probably have quite a poor hit rate with his most deadly techniques. Banshou Ten'in and the abilities of both Ningendou (Human Path) & Shuradou (Asura Path) will be pretty much useless. Any form of Shinra Tensei is risky because Nagato could quite easily be molested during the cool-down period. Troublesome summons like Cerberus can always be warped away in a similar fashion to the Juubi's Bijuu Dama, although, of course, Nagato can always summon them back.

I just don't know how Nagato'll deal with those kunai. Seals are permanent, so any paths marked just give either Minato or Tobirama another route towards Nagato or away from any immediate danger. Jigokudou's (Naraka Path's) healing power only delays the inevitable, and its interrogative abilities are worthless because neither or the duo can be forcefully held down with Hiraishin in play.

Chibaku Tensei is, as always, a game changer but I reckon Nagato is the underdog because of various Flying Thunder God combinations.
Nice post but im going to have to disagree with one thing here and that's Nagato being the underdog.
 

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Would be great if you could explain why.

Outside of Gedou Mazou, it looks to me like the duo will cause Nagato more problems than he'll cause them.
 
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