[VS] Prime Nagato w Paths vs Minato&Tobirama

[Sweet Pudding]

Restrictions- Kurama,RDS and ET
Intel - Manga
Location - Sasuke vs Itachi



(Minato and Tobirama have prepared the battlefield with Kunais and Minato's Rasengan are enhanced with Senjutsu but Minato cannot use Jiraiya's and Naruto's Senjutsu feats)

 

[KidGamer65]

CST pastes them both.

 

[Sweet Pudding]

CST pastes them both.

What's CST?

 

[KidGamer65]

What's CST?

The Shinra Tensei that blew up Konoha.

 

[super yang]

the duo are high kage level, butnagato is above kage level, so...

 

[Sweet Pudding]

The Shinra Tensei that blew up Konoha.

FTG can send it somewhere else

 

[KidGamer65]

FTG can send it somewhere else

Lol, Hiraishin can't warp away an intangible force.

 

[ARGUS]

Nagato wins mid diff

 

[Gold Lightning]

Lol, Hiraishin can't warp away an intangible force.

I'm curious. If you hold out a space time barrier in front of you. Let's say one the size of the Juubi Bomb (or just standard size, doesn't really matter), wouldn't all force and debris and pressure just pass through it?

It's like when Yamato protected himself from 4tk Narutos power using a wood dome and everything just passed over it. Wouldn't the same thing happen with a barrier, especially a wide scaled barrier. Everything would pass through and go either side would it not?

 

[Lariatoo]

Nagato mid diff on a bad day. Even Nagato whitout his paths has some chances of winning. Not big, but still.

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm curious. If you hold out a space time barrier in front of you. Let's say one the size of the Juubi Bomb (or just standard size, doesn't really matter), wouldn't all force and debris and pressure just pass through it?

It's like when Yamato protected himself from 4tk Narutos power using a wood dome and everything just passed over it. Wouldn't the same thing happen with a barrier, especially a wide scaled barrier. Everything would pass through and go either side would it not?

Debris? Sure. An intangible force like a repulsive force? The dome would block it if it's strong enough, but S/T Barrier isn't physical, so it can't block a repulsive force.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Debris? Sure. An intangible force like a repulsive force? The dome would block it if it's strong enough, but S/T Barrier isn't physical, so it can't block a repulsive force.

Why not? It isn't physical. It's an open barrier that sucks in anything that comes into contact with. If it's repulsive force, then why would that effect the barrier when it's pretty much an open void of nothingness, it would just pass through it. I see it as basically opening a wall to another dimension right in front of you, so I don't see why force is an exception to its portal.

 

[Unorthodox]

Nagato destroys them hell alone he could win 2 deva paths oooh weee

 

[KidGamer65]

Why not? It isn't physical. It's an open barrier that sucks in anything that comes into contact with. If it's repulsive force, then why would that effect the barrier when it's pretty much an open void of nothingness, it would just pass through it.

The barrier not being physical the exact reason it can't block a repulsive force, because the repulsive force isn't physical. Yamato's dome blocked everything because it is physical. If Nagato uses Shinra Tensei and Minato tries to block with S/T Barrier, then the repulsive force goes right through the barrier and hits Minato.

Can't make "contact" with an intangible force. Minato can't pull an intangible force into his barrier. Minato's barrier doesn't even work like Yamato's in the slightest, besides the fact that it protects the user.

 

[Rufus ShinRa]

Nagato wins low diff

 

[Ababeel]

Minato and Tobirama fodderstomps.

Nagato can't even move, so he is not surviving a speedblitze. If either of them touches any path they will create chakra link between them, and then Nagato and his paths would be toys in their hands, moving it around as they pleases.

 

[Ababeel]

The barrier not being physical the exact reason it can't block a repulsive force, because the repulsive force isn't physical. Yamato's dome blocked everything because it is physical. If Nagato uses Shinra Tensei and Minato tries to block with S/T Barrier, then the repulsive force goes right through the barrier and hits Minato.

Can't make "contact" with an intangible force. Minato can't pull an intangible force into his barrier. Minato's barrier doesn't even work like Yamato's in the slightest, besides the fact that it protects the user.

I am just curious from where you came up with all those rules for the barrier? Because I don't remember any of that being mentioned anywhere in the manga.

The barrier is basically.

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Hiraishin Dourai (Flying Thunder God: Guiding Thunder)

Ninjutsu

Volume 53, page 140

A time-space barrier technique that Minato used skillfully. It created a time-space rip in the air, then in an instant sucked in the “bijuu dama” released by the Kyuubi, and transported it to another place.

Anything comes towards the barrier will get warped away, no matter what it is.

 

[KidGamer65]

I am just curious from where you came up with all those rules for the barrier? Because I don't remember any of that being mentioned anywhere in the manga.

The barrier is basically.

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Anything comes towards the barrier will get warped away, no matter what it is.

Rule? It's logic. Can't warp away or physically interact with any intangible force, hence it being called an intangible force. Minato's barrier can't warp away an intangible force, so it can't warp Shinra Tensei.

 

[Valhorus]

Rule? It's logic. Can't warp away or physically interact with any intangible force, hence it being called an intangible force. Minato's barrier can't warp away an intangible force, so it can't warp Shinra Tensei.

So you are saying Minato will put up a barrier between him and the CST and the CST will hit him instead of going into the barrier ? Minato doesn't need to make contact with something in order to teleport it away with S/T Barrier . He open a rift between point A and point B and if you went into that rift you get teleported , I don't see why CST will not go into that rift that is staying between Minato and the attack .

 

[Ababeel]

I don't see how a space time barrier will fail at that.

Either way, even if we go with that (even though it does not make any sense in the manga context) both of them have FTG, they can teleport away, and return after the attack, to destroy weakened Nagato. Even though I don't see why people give him credits that he will somehow be faster than the fastest man in history, and the fastest man in his time, when he couldn't even dodge itachi or B. Lol

Also, Minato can use a physical barrier anyway that can, apparently, hold even full Kurama.

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