The Bunshin Misery In "The Last"

[Bankai11]

I read some comments - mostly from “those ones” - who were arguing that the movie sucks because Naruto used Kage Bunshin No Jutsu when he and Hinata were children.

However, after I reread the first chapter of the manga, then rewatched the anime and read some information, I realised that like in many other crap arguments, "certain fans" have immense amnesia.

Because they forgot a very important thing:

The jutsu that Naruto learned from the Fuin No Sho (Scroll Of Seals) WAS NOT THE NORMAL KAGE BUNSHIN NO JUTSU, BUT THE TAJU KAGE BUNSHIN NO JUTSU!

The difference between Kage Bunshin No Jutsu and Taju Kage Bunshin No Jutsu is that while Taju Kage Bunshin No Jutsu is a Kinjutsu sealed inside the Fuin No Sho by the First Hokage, normal Kage Bunshin No Jutsu is NOT a Kinjutsu, so anybody can use it freely!

http : // naruto . wikia . com / wiki / Scroll_of_Seals

http : // naruto . wikia . com / wiki / Multiple_Shadow_Clone_Technique

So, unlike Taju Kage Bunshin No Jutsu, Naruto didn’t need the scroll to knew the standard Kage Bunshin, he could learn it from watching an adult using it and try to mimic it - another question is that like the “normal” he failed to doing this too.

On the other hand, would somebody explain why is it even bother that Naruto tried to use Kage Bunshin and not “normal Bunshin”, while as I said what Naruto learned from the Fuin No Sho (Scroll Of Seals) was Taju Kage Bunshin, a kinjutsu, and not Kage Bunshin?

There is no visible difference between normal Bunshin and Kage Bunshin to the eyes, so if somebody doesn’t know the difference between their mechanical difference (normal Bunshins can't hit the opponent, Kage Bunshins can, but both of them are disappear after 1 hit) to them it won’t even matter.

Not mentioning that the jutsu failed, so the outcome is the same as he would try to use normal ones, isn't it?

 

[HENI]

Kage is forbidden because it can kill you

 

[Xlad]

Were those really Kage Bushnins? I am confused as hell.

 

[Bankai11]

Kage is forbidden because it can kill you

No. TAJU Kage is forbidden, normal Kage bunshin is not. That's why Kage bunshin is not kinjutsu only Taju Kage bunshin is. It's different.

Were those really Kage Bushnins? I am confused as hell.

They were supposed to be. Another question that like always Naruto failed.

Also, there's no problem with it as what Naruto learned from the Scroll Of Seals was the TAJU and not the normal Kage Bunshin. Taju is Kinjutsu, normal is not, so Naruto could see the normal Kage before the Scroll Of Seals too.

But as I said it the jutsu failed, so there's no true problem with it.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Were those really Kage Bushnins? I am confused as hell.

This plus he didn't even use them for actual combat. ​

 

[juzumaki]

yes and no not for the reasons you listed

 

[Venomous Cobra]

People PP is trying to simply explain the difference between Taiju kage bunshin which is a kinjutsu and normal shadow clone justu. ....

OTeople tend to forget that what naruto learned wasn't normal KB but yeah I get what you saying. ....

 

[Blizzard3]

And here I always thought that used the taju because he wanted to make a mass amount of Kate bunshin

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kage bunshin and taiju kage bunshin is the same damn thing.

 

[Prog]

Wait, what is the problem with KB and The Last?

 

[The Necromancer]

There's nothing to suggest that he knew how to make Shadow Clones before the scroll. Nothing at all.

Of course, I've never seen The Last, so take this with a grain of salt.

 

[Bankai11]

Kage bunshin and taiju kage bunshin is the same damn thing.

Nope.

Taju Kage Bunshin No Jutsu = Kinjutsu, sealed inside the Fuin No Sho (Scroll of Seals). Also, it is on higher level.

Kage Bunshin No Jutsu = Not kinjutsu, anybody can use it. Also, it is on lower level.

Even the databooks confirm this difference. So while is it true that "they are same", they are faaar different in useage, danger and rank level, classification and power level.

There's nothing to suggest that he knew how to make Shadow Clones before the scroll. Nothing at all.

Probably that's why the jutsu failed. ;P

Also, the same goes:
1.Minato's Sage Mode that he could easily use againts Tobi at the Rampage Of Nine-Tails.
2.Sakura's Byakugo No In, which she got without foreshadowing nor training. At least we should be hinted that she will have by seeing her training like Naruto and Sasuke.
3.Jiraiya's sudden apprentices from nowhere (Yahiko, Nagato and Konan).
4.Karin's asspull giant chains that she got from nowhere - could use it againts Danzo.

And so on. Also, the difference between Shadow Clones and normal Clones is only that Shadow clones are can hit the opponent but overall, they have the same weakness and physical appearance if the user won't f*ck it. Naruto did. We saw the outcome. ;P

 

[Torche]

And Naruto didn't use normal Kage Bunshin to pass the exam because?

Bunshin no Jutsu is an illusionary clone which the academy learns.

Kage Bunshin no Jutsu and Tajuu Kage Bunshin no Jutsu are literally the same thing with the exception being the Tajuu Kage Bunshin takes more chakra and creates more Kage Bunshin.

 

[The Necromancer]

And Naruto didn't use normal Kage Bunshin to pass the exam because?

Bunshin no Jutsu is an illusionary clone which the academy learns.

Kage Bunshin no Jutsu and Tajuu Kage Bunshin no Jutsu are literally the same thing with the exception being the Tajuu Kage Bunshin takes more chakra and creates more Kage Bunshin.

I think the answer continues to be that Kishi hasn't cared about consistency since Obito's mask came off.

 

[Torche]

I think the answer continues to be that Kishi hasn't cared about consistency since Obito's mask came off.

It was also likely SP that sort of forced it.

 

[Bankai11]

And Naruto didn't use normal Kage Bunshin to pass the exam because?

Bunshin no Jutsu is an illusionary clone which the academy learns.

Kage Bunshin no Jutsu and Tajuu Kage Bunshin no Jutsu are literally the same thing with the exception being the Tajuu Kage Bunshin takes more chakra and creates more Kage Bunshin.

Oh, yes, and:
1.Taju Kage Bunshin is a Kinjutsu while normal Kage Bunshin is not.
2.Taju Kage Bunshin was sealed inside the Fuin No Sho while normal Kage Bunshin was not.
3.Taju Kage Bunshin has much higher danger level and rank level than normal Kage Bunshin.

And no, Naruto used Taju Kage Bunshin againts Mizuki too.

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It was also likely SP that sort of forced it.

Kishimoto could change it if he wanted as he got the script to rewritte everything he wanted. So nobody forced him (again).

 

[BLAZE]

people r trying to justify horse shit mistake by SP
lol believe in the retcon

 

[Akiretsu]

My god people, the clone failed in the movie just like it did in chapter 1. There is no inconsistency. What the hell could all this possibly be about???

 

[Torche]

Kishimoto could change it if he wanted as he got the script to rewritte everything he wanted. So nobody forced him (again).

Such a thing called pressure.

 

[End of Days]

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Tajuu kage bunhsin no jutsu is just kage bunshin done on a large scale, he learned it from scroll then just used his huge chakra reserve.

Academy teaches bunshin no jutsu which are illusions not real, so yes if he did try kage bunshin no jutsu then its a bad job done by the movie makers.

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