Can you acknowlage these feats?

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1. More chakra than Tsunade, More strength than Tsunade... already surpassed. If you want to mention exprience and so on.. then Sasuke and Naruto didn't surpass Jiraiya or oro either.

2. And Sakura became the 3rd strongest being on the planet.. so try again

Lol this guy.

1. Sakura's power up was compared to child Tsunade and she was unable to give Shikamaru a full chakra boost while Tsuande could.

2. Sakura is weaker than Spiral Zetsu's summoning.
 

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Lol this guy.

Sakura was compared to child Tsunade and she was unless to give Shikamaru a chakra boost while Tsuande could.

If you are still claiming that crap, then you obviously must like to wank TSunade. Tsunade fans seem more intelligent than you guys.

Same old crap that has been countered thousand of times..... anything original?
 

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If you are still claiming that crap, then you obviously must like to wank TSunade. Tsunade fans seem more intelligent than you guys.

Same old crap that has been countered thousand of times..... anything original?

Countered? Since when? You didn't even have a real counter argument in that thread I made.

Reread my post.
 

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1. More chakra than Tsunade, More strength than Tsunade... already surpassed. If you want to mention exprience and so on.. then Sasuke and Naruto didn't surpass Jiraiya or oro either.

2. And Sakura became the 3rd strongest being on the planet.. so try again

3. that was a sarcastic statement.... you stated she admits shes useless.. i said, ok atleast she knows who she is unlike the guy in your sig who didn't know who he was..

4. I just said, Japan doesn't equal the whole world.... Its about 5% of the fandom or so. Since Naruto is far from being the most popular anime there.

6. No she was written for that purpose and that was it... I guess Obito sucks ass as a character since he ain't like Naruto.

7. Yup and Naruto is still the guy who yells "Sakura-chan!" like he did in part 1.... Sasuke is still the guy who says "thank you" to Sakura like he did in part 1... So try again. Its been repeated many times in the manga now she loved sasuke and hence why she wanted to save him.. she showed true love, if you are hurt that Sasuke got a loyal one like Sakura.. then be hurt, since Obito started a world war over a 14 year old girl who rejected him.

1. What makes you think she stronger or even has more chakra than Tsunade? To start off with, Tsunade is a Senju and automatically has a massive amount of chakra, secondly, Tsunade managed to easily heal Shikamaru, something Sakura failed to do.

2. What makes you believe that, honestly? Stronger than Gai who nearly killed Juubi-Madara?

3. Okay, fair enough.

4. Oh, yeah, what I meant was, in the Naruto fanbase, Hinata is more popular.

5. Um, so she was written to fail? I don't judge them by how much like Naruto they are, as I think Sasuke is a well-written character.

6. Um, a girl that sticks to the side of a man that has treated her like garbage as long as she's known him, that has tried to kill her twice (and forced her to believe he actually did kill her) and declared his desire to kill her multiple times isn't loyal, she's weak. In regards to Obito and Rin, first off, Rin was the only person shown to care for Obito for majority of his life (he wasn't on Team Minato all that long) and he actually thought he was saving everybody and giving them all happiness. And, again, you, like many a Sakura fan before, failed to say what she actually loved him for. Hinata loved Naruto because he inspired her and gave her strength and actually showed her kindness and fought for her. Obito loved Rin because Rin was his first, and for much of his life, only friend, why does Sakura love Sasuke? Honestly, because he's attractive, because, given the fact that she barely even gets to know him like Naruto did while on Team 7, and all he did was mostly insult her, there is nothing else to love about him.
 

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Sakura couldn't even beat that Budda thing which the Allience was fighting. Even Karin beat the shit out of that thing. Sakura isn't even high tier in Naruto. More like low-mid tier.

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Tsunade is indeed stronger than Sakura. Their "super strength" is based on chakra levels as shown with Sakura when she got her asspull powerup. Tsunade is a Senju/Uzumaki thus her body produces a large amount of chakra, more so than Sakura who has fodder genes. Thus is the reason why Sakura is only around child/pre-yin seal Tsunade's power level.
 
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1. Exactly how does the manga counter this? Every useful thing she's ever done could be done by Tsunade, that's a fact.

2. Exactly, she failed to surpass her own mentor, while Naruto and Sasuke became the strongest beings on the planet.

3. I don't get that statement. What, as in she knew she was codependent and didn't give a crap about how awful a person treats her?

4. Actually, no, Japan isn't greater than the entire fandom, besides which, I'm pretty sure Hinata has more fans in Japan anyway.

5. I'll give you that one.

6. And Sakura still managed to be the worst written, your point?

7. How did Obito have negative development? Becoming a villain isn't negative development, nor is redeeming oneself. I say Sakura gained negative development by the end of the series because she totally degraded as a character. The moment Sasuke came back she became "Sasky-kun" Sakura that let this man, this man that tried to kill her, insult her and treat her like she's filth to the point that Kakashi had to call him on his shit, and she still chose to marry him, at the very least sleep with him. That's pathetic, and she honestly had no reason whatsoever to love Sasuke, if any girl likes looks that badly she has some sort of issue.
0. I applaud your effort to combat the Sakura-wanking, but it's futile.

1. INCLUDING stuff like CPR.
There was ZERO need in making Sakura do it, apart from Kishi milking the red herring of the dead horse.
In contrast, Hinata (the "insignificant" SIDE character) has been used in several moments in a way that NOBODY ELSE could replace her (because she - a. mentioned HER LOVE for Naruto, which nobody else has; b. mentioned THEIR SHARED NINDO, which nobody else has either).
Funny, how a SIDE character is more IRREPLACEABLE than a MAIN one.

2. Slightly debatable, but the key point is that she is Tsunade's CLONE AT BEST.
She has NO jutsu that SHE herself made - and none that'd be her SIGNATURE MOVE (and NOT Tsunade's AS WELL).
Ah, which is what you meant anyways, lol.

3. I'll skip this one, but at least Obito had a Tobi phase, which was HILARIOUS.
Sakura was the crappy fangirl from chapter 3 till chapter 700 - and no amount of Super Strength had ever redeemed THAT.

4. The very fact that Hinata is compared to Sakura BY Sakura's OWN FANS, is enough.

5. Which still was Hinata, lol.
Plus, Toneri is Byakugan-related, NOT Byakugo, loool.

6. No point will ever negate this FACT.
Also, I personally don't consider Hinata to be that much BADLY written, cause I like her even the way she already is.
And actually, I don't even consider ANY other female in Naruto to be really BADLY written - only Sakura the FANGIRL.
Even Karin is made HILARIOUS in HER fangirlism (and the way she interacts with Suigetsu, for example).
Plus, Karin has the redeeming factor of being a NeoKushina - without the Plot no Jutsu of getting a Sannin for a teacher merely based on her "main" status (cause, really, WHY did Tsunade even take an apprentice to begin with?).
Sakura is rather PATHETIC and PITIFUL, though.

7. He kinda did, but it was never as awful as Sakura's relapses.
Obito's negative development is called "Rin", which reduced him from a funny and menacing villain to a stupid little boy that couldn't get over his crush's death.
Well, Sakura couldn't get over a villain who tried killing her twice and was an enemy by choice (Obito was pretty much manipulated into it, though it doesn't excuse his stupidity) - and what's 9000 times worse, she "loves" him LITERALLY FOR NO REASON.
THAT is a -9000 development in an instant.
Her reverting to her fangirl-mode EACH time she could sniff him (and the factual issue of her activating her ULTIMATE JUTSU in an way that is OBVIOUS to be her bragging in front of her Sasuke-KUN), isn't any better at all.
And I honestly can't fathom the stubborn fanaticism of Sakura-fappers.
Very. Seriously.
This is PATHETIC.
 

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"more or less" make the difference
@Bold, countered by the manga, only those who can't comprehend it still claim on to that dumb statement.

@2nd bold, not in this manga she didn't.

@3rd Bold, atleast she knew who she was, its bad when a villain doesn't even know who he is.

@4th bold, and?? Japan =/= entire fandom

@5th bold, no Naruto uzumaki got a movie that was about who he married.

@6th bold, yup he also said he sucked in writing about female characters..

@7th bold, with that logic, add Obito in there also.

She never surpassed Tsunade. That's something you Sakura fans love to tell yourselves just to make yourselves feel better. It was Tsunade who used her knowledge of the human body to control Kabuto's nervous system. It was Tsunade who healed Shikamaru, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who healed Lee's body, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who created artificial arms through Hashirama's DNA, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who created the Yin Seal, not Sakura. It was Tsunade healing a nentire village on her while Sakura was crying like a dog. It was Tsunade who shattered Madara's Susano'O, while Sakura was punching rocks. Sakura doesn't have one thing that makes her superior to Tsunade that she would have had to work for. Sakura''s feats as a medic and fighter both pale in comparison to Tsunade.

Yes, unfortunately, she did, as that's how shallow Sakura is. When Sauske stabbed her through the chest and put her in a genjutsu, Sasuke asked Kakashi what reason Sakura would even have to love him, to which Kakashi says that there is no reason needed to love someone, but that a reason is only needed to hate someone, which is complete bull shit, as any normal human can tell. This moment was clear damage control by Kishi in order to justify Sakura loving Sasuke without a given reason, as Kishi had never bothered to give Sakura areason to love Sasuke beyonf lo he's hot af. Sakura had a million reasons to hate Sasuke, such as the neglect, abuse, insults, and hate he showed her, and yet there is not a single reason in the manga that one can point out as to why she loves Sasuke other than the fact that he is hot. Stop deluding yourself.

No, but Japan's opinion > The rest of the fandom, as evidenced by the fact that Kishimoto actually considered replacing the Pink Fodder with Hinata as the main heroine due to the fact that she was more popular and due to the fact that her story and background was more complex and better developed than Sakura's.

Hinata takes second place lead role in that movie, in which she gains Hamura's chakra, her clan history is explored, her relationships are developed, and her character gets development. I'd like to see Sakura ever come even that close to being relevant in canon. Sad fact remains, it'll probably never happen, and this movie in the end is about Naruto just as much as it is about Hinata.
 
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I can acknowledge these 2 facts; but that does not change the fact that she is a clumsily written character.
 

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She never surpassed Tsunade. That's something you Sakura fans love to tell yourselves just to make yourselves feel better. It was Tsunade who used her knowledge of the human body to control Kabuto's nervous system. It was Tsunade who healed Shikamaru, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who healed Lee's body, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who created artificial arms through Hashirama's DNA, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who created the Yin Seal, not Sakura. It was Tsunade healing a nentire village on her while Sakura was crying like a dog. It was Tsunade who shattered Madara's Susano'O, while Sakura was punching rocks. Sakura doesn't have one thing that makes her superior to Tsunade that she would have had to work for. Sakura''s feats as a medic and fighter both pale in comparison to Tsunade.

Yes, unfortunately, she did, as that's how shallow Sakura is. When Sauske stabbed her through the chest and put her in a genjutsu, Sasuke asked Kakashi what reason Sakura would even have to love him, to which Kakashi says that there is no reason needed to love someone, but that a reason is only needed to hate someone, which is complete bull shit, as any normal human can tell. This moment was clear damage control by Kishi in order to justify Sakura loving Sasuke without a given reason, as Kishi had never bothered to give Sakura areason to love Sasuke beyonf lo he's hot af. Sakura had a million reasons to hate Sasuke, such as the neglect, abuse, insults, and hate he showed her, and yet there is not a single reason in the manga that one can point out as to why she loves Sasuke other than the fact that he is hot. Stop deluding yourself.

No, but Japan's opinion > The rest of the fandom, as evidenced by the fact that Kishimoto actually considered replacing the Pink Fodder with Hinata as the main heroine due to the fact that she was more popular and due to the fact that her story and background was more complex and better developed than Sakura's.

Hinata takes second place lead role in that movie, in which she gains Hamura's chakra, her clan history is explored, her relationships are developed, and her character gets development. I'd like to see Sakura ever come even that close to being relevant in canon. Sad fact remains, it'll probably never happen, and this movie in the end is about Naruto just as much as it is about Hinata.

You can have your opinions about Sakura's character and you can like Hinata more but just don't forget or misunderstand that Sakura > Hinata as a Shinobi in every way, shape and form. Also, the fact that you refered to Sakura as a "the pink haired fodder" shows your inability to engage in a senseable discussion related to Sakura because those two feats I originally posted prove she's far from fodder. But carry on with your bashing and negativity and try to remember Hinata was a rebound.
 
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You can have your opinions about Sakura's character and you can like Hinata more but just don't forget or misunderstand that Sakura > Hinata as a Shinobi in every way, shape and form. Also, the fact that you refered to Sakura as a "the pink haired fodder" shows your inability to engage in a senseable discussion related to Sakura.
And your inability to refute in any other way besides using personal insults - is predictable.
After all, we all know what Sakura's FLAWS are - and how her FANS are as well.
Whatever flaws Hinata had in the past (even those fanonically fapped by haters) - she already OUTGREW way before 699.
She didn't NEED the movie to become a relevant and developed character (even if she does revolve about Naruto, which BY ITSELF can be considered both as negitive OR positive thing, cause BOTH of them PROFITED from this in the end).
This CANNOT be said about Sakura as far as 699.
And as far as we all know, Kishi won't even bother to make a movie for Sakura - so LITTLE he cares about her.
Yes, Sakura-fans, your FAV has been neg diff'ed by KISHI of all people.
Ha. Ha. Ha.
 

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And your inability to refute in any other way besides using personal insults - is predictable.
After all, we all know what Sakura's FLAWS are - and how her FANS are as well.
Whatever flaws Hinata had in the past (even those fanonically fapped by haters) - she already OUTGREW way before 699.
She didn't NEED the movie to become a relevant and developed character (even if she does revolve about Naruto, which BY ITSELF can be considered both as negitive OR positive thing, cause BOTH of them PROFITED from this in the end).
This CANNOT be said about Sakura as far as 699.
And as far as we all know, Kishi won't even bother to make a movie for Sakura - so LITTLE he cares about her.
Yes, Sakura-fans, your FAV has been neg diff'ed by KISHI of all people.
Ha. Ha. Ha.

Once again, Sakura > Hinata as a Shinobi in every way, shape or form and that's a manga fact (published by Kishi). Secondly, I'm not here to argue your personal opinions or views in Sakura and nether is this thread guy, I set the primis of this discussion on the initial post "can you acknowledge these feats". You people can't associate any thing sensible or positive when it's Sakura related and it's sad.
 

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You can have your opinions about Sakura's character and you can like Hinata more but just don't forget or misunderstand that Sakura > Hinata as a Shinobi in every way, shape and form. Also, the fact that you refered to Sakura as a "the pink haired fodder" shows your inability to engage in a senseable discussion related to Sakura because those two feats I originally posted prove she's far from fodder. But carry on with your bashing and negativity and try to remember Hinata was a rebound.

Your statement makes no sense, however, considering that, even though she may not like Sakura, everything she said was more or less right regardless.
 
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You're statement makes no sense, however, considering that, even though she may not like Sakura, everything she said was more or less right regardless.

It makes perfect sense, she or he made a comparison to Hinata and I just reiterated that Sakura beats Hinata as a Shinobi but that she was entitled to her opinion about her character. Sakura may have not surpassed Tsunade (which she most likely has) but it's enough to beat Hinata.
 

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It makes perfect sense, she or he made a comparison to Hinata and I just reiterated that Sakura beats Hinata as a Shinobi but that she was entitled to her opinion about her character. Sakura may have not surpassed Tsunade (which she most likely has) but it's enough to beat Hinata.

In what way does she beat her as a Shinobi? And, did you really say Sakura surpassed Tsunade? You high, Rasta mon?
 

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>Says she has little chakra to save Naruto
>Uses a massive amounts of stored chakra to save Sasuke.

Funny thing is Medical ninjutsu would of been ineffective if she had enough chakra or not she even wen't to the length of pumping his heart manually and giving him CPR and I remember that she healed the whole alliance twice and destroyed dozens of Juubi clones.
 

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Funny thing is Medical ninjutsu would of been ineffective if she had enough chakra or not she even wen't to the length of pumping his heart manually and giving him CPR and I remember that she healed the whole alliance twice and destroyed dozens of Juubi clones.

All things Tsunade could've done, what a replaceable character.
 

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She never surpassed Tsunade. That's something you Sakura fans love to tell yourselves just to make yourselves feel better. It was Tsunade who used her knowledge of the human body to control Kabuto's nervous system. It was Tsunade who healed Shikamaru, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who healed Lee's body, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who created artificial arms through Hashirama's DNA, not Sakura. It was Tsunade who created the Yin Seal, not Sakura. It was Tsunade healing a nentire village on her while Sakura was crying like a dog. It was Tsunade who shattered Madara's Susano'O, while Sakura was punching rocks. Sakura doesn't have one thing that makes her superior to Tsunade that she would have had to work for. Sakura''s feats as a medic and fighter both pale in comparison to Tsunade.

Yes, unfortunately, she did, as that's how shallow Sakura is. When Sauske stabbed her through the chest and put her in a genjutsu, Sasuke asked Kakashi what reason Sakura would even have to love him, to which Kakashi says that there is no reason needed to love someone, but that a reason is only needed to hate someone, which is complete bull shit, as any normal human can tell. This moment was clear damage control by Kishi in order to justify Sakura loving Sasuke without a given reason, as Kishi had never bothered to give Sakura areason to love Sasuke beyonf lo he's hot af. Sakura had a million reasons to hate Sasuke, such as the neglect, abuse, insults, and hate he showed her, and yet there is not a single reason in the manga that one can point out as to why she loves Sasuke other than the fact that he is hot. Stop deluding yourself.

No, but Japan's opinion > The rest of the fandom, as evidenced by the fact that Kishimoto actually considered replacing the Pink Fodder with Hinata as the main heroine due to the fact that she was more popular and due to the fact that her story and background was more complex and better developed than Sakura's.

Hinata takes second place lead role in that movie, in which she gains Hamura's chakra, her clan history is explored, her relationships are developed, and her character gets development. I'd like to see Sakura ever come even that close to being relevant in canon. Sad fact remains, it'll probably never happen, and this movie in the end is about Naruto just as much as it is about Hinata.

Still at 17 she replicated the whole of Tsunade's moveset if that's not impressive than what is Tsunade healing Shikamaru nice feat but wasn't Sakura the one who travelled through dimension Kaguya found chakra-taxing Tsunade's one pales in comparison It's obvious asspull would be a reply for this but still It was Sakura who used a medical technique Tsunade hasn't shown to remove the poison from Kankouro.It was Sakura healing the whole alliance along wasn't it was Sakura Doing everything that she could do to stop Naruto's dying process:
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it was Sakura who protected the little girl against a rinnegan summoning in the destruction of the leaf:
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It was Sakura who was leading Konoha's hospital.It was Sakura healing Hinata
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Sasuke though of Sakura as someone Important to him Sakura used to like him for his look's but as she went through missions with him she started seeing who he really was as Kakashi states she think it's her duty to save him after all he has been through he was manipulated for most his life Sakura is kind so she acted like nothing happened.

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Because Hinata deserves to be a heroine her backstory is rushed and her role for 700 chapters.Development my toe the movie states Hinata needed Naruto as none of her moves where strong enough to be combined with Hamura's chakra.
If Sakura wasn't in the manga Naruto dead Sasuke trapped in a desert what else Hinata is a Mary Sue her popularity comes from her large bust and her eventually cliche personality she doesn't hold any weight character or development wise and has unearned respect.
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One. Simple. Question:
What is Sakura's personal SIGNATURE JUTSU that is NOT associated with Tsunade as well (or even primarily)???
Naruto has Rasenshuriken.
Sasuke has Kirin and Chidori versions.
Kakashi has Raikiri.
Hinata has Soshiken.
What about Sakura???
What is HER personal signature MOVE???
Answer me!
 

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One. Simple. Question:
What is Sakura's personal SIGNATURE JUTSU that is NOT associated with Tsunade as well (or even primarily)???
Naruto has Rasenshuriken.
Sasuke has Kirin and Chidori versions.
Kakashi has Raikiri.
Hinata has Soshiken.
What about Sakura???
What is HER personal signature MOVE???
Answer me!

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