Can it, though? Doesn't Mū also remove his chakra signature, erasing his presence from the sight of the Sharingan?
Erasing your chakra is merely in a chakra sensory context, otherwise he'd die since having no chakra means death. He merely hides/suppresses his chakra like Karin does, while camouflaging so that the naked eye can no longer see him. However, chakra is still there, so if a Sharingan looks his way, it'll still see the chakra there, as it actually is there; but it's being suppressed so that sensors cannot sense it.
Sensing chakra is literally no different from seeing it. Yes, Mu's chakra is still there but he supresses it so it's not detectable. If it isn't able to be sensed with chakra-based sensing then it isn't able to be seen with chakra-seeing dojutsu. If his chakra was still there and visible to sharingan users then sensors would have no trouble detecting him. It's that simple. His chakra would look transparent to a sharingan user.
We've had this debate twice in the past and both times you ended up 'leaving' after 3-4 posts. No reason for me to argue with you on this matter again when your lack of ability to make a solid counter for my previous points is abundant. But yes, sensing and seeing could not be more different from each other. Karin suppresses her chakra, it still exists though, and if it exists that means it's inside her body, and if it's inside her body then the Sharingan will see the very chakra residing within that body. Not going to start posting scans or take this seriously, it'll be a waste of time if I do, since the debate has been held before, and you agree that Danzo wins.
Cool. I got caught up in a Kakashi vs Mu debate which took priority over my argument with your claim which I've already countered in the past. Nor did you bring any solid points to the table or even a single relevant manga scan so there was no point in responding.
Your entire argument revolves around "his chakra still exists so it can still be seen." No. His chakra still exists yet he was undetectable by sensors who could not sense his chakra so this point is completely moot. Does his chakra exist? Yes. Is it detectable by sensing? Nope. Is it detectable with dojutsu? Not a single damn reason why it would be. You haven't come up with an explanation as to how seeing chakra would be any different than sensing it in terms of detecting someone who supresses their chakra. If you don't want to argue with me you don't have to but you won't be taken seriously in any thread where Mu is pitted against a character with dojutsu since most people on the base agree that he can't be seen with dojutsu if he supresses his chakra.
Lol, what? We debated this twice, and at both points you stopped replying to me. In the first thread, EVERYONE agreed with me and you just decided to make a run for it. That's not countering.... The second time, as you just said, you prioritised something else. So where exactly is the time in which you "countered in the past"? And there was about 10-15 manga scans and 2-3 DB statements in my argument, while yours had what; 2-3? Let's not be strawmen here Beansandcornbread..
Copy pasting my old argument;
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Except there's no proof that sensing is a refined way of feeling chakra like non-sensors do, so it's just speculation on your part that Mu is simply lowering his chakra to where it can't be detected. And people without dojutsu have seen chakra in large quantities just like people without sensing abilities have felt it.
They can't feel chakra when it's being suppressed. Sensors never have been able to detect suppressed chakra, just like sharingan can't. Your argument that 'sharingan perceives Mu because his chakra still exists' falls apart, since Mu's chakra still existed when he went invisible against the SA and yet his chakra which still existed couldn't be sensed at all.
What? I showed you Orochimaru's statement, they "felt chakra despite not being sensors". Meaning sensors also feel chakra. There is no mangaphax or gtfo argument in this situation, as it is entirely implicative by Oro's own statement. @bold Point? The faintest chakra can be seen..
And you show that you have no counter for anything I said. Your argument goes down the drain because you countered nothing. If you really cannot distinguish between seeing and feeling, then there's no point in debating, because even my 8 year old brother can distinguish such. Your entire counter is based around sensing=seeing when Oro said sensing is feeling, and feeling is not seeing. Imagine all the air in the world was perceivable and as normal air, capable of being felt. Put it all in a small box and you won't feel it anymore, but you'll definitely still see it because it's still there. It doesn't get any simpler than this. You have yet to counter
There was nothing to counter in the first place since you didn't have an argument that's not speculation. You say Mu's chakra suppression is just lowering his chakra until it isn't detectable by sensors - where's your proof?
Give me proof that Mu's chakra suppression is him just lowering his chakra levels rather than suppressing them completely then we can talk.
What? That's how it is until you prove otherwise. You cannot state that Mu uses something and not explain what the ability is. You are the one saying Mu suppresses his chakra. I told you how it works, if you don't like my hypothesis, then you can go ahead and make your own (which only has 2 possibilities I already addressed, hiding and lowering it). Till then, the point stands. Hiding it or suppressing it are the only two possibilities, and both won't make him immune to the Sharingan.
I am clearly addressing hiding chakra with my analogy, not suppressing; the only other option for Mu's chakra suppression. Either way, unless you can make a counter argument for this, then there's no point in you perpetuating your inexistent argument.
No, there isn't. If your stamina is zero, your chakra is too and vice versa.
And how does that help make him immune to the Sharingan again?
Wait, why would his chakra be visible if he's hiding his chakra? I am so confused by your logic that at this point I don't know what you're trying to say. This is my train of thought, please explain yours without overcomplicating things, in as few words as possible.
