How does sasuke beat Madara?

[IceSlayer]

Obito took a tiny portion. Bz never took chakra. As I said it takes a long time to absorb that much chakra with preta path.

Scan showing it takes a long time to absorb chakra?

When Obito was gathering bijuu chakra from Madara, Madara was immobilised for a moment before stopping him, but Obito already gathered enough

Plus it took Sasuke less then a moment to gather chakra from all nine bijuu's

 

[Itachi 4 life]

Sasuke has S/T, he can surprise Madara and take it, both Obito and BZ done it, why not Sasuke?

Because both Obito/BZ tricked/backstabbed him. Madara thought Obito was on his side so he didn't pay attention. And he thought BZ was his will so it allowed BZ to backstab him. He is fighting Sasuke in our scenario. He will be on alert. And he can counter Sasuke's ST with Limbo easily. Note that when Sasuke bisected him his limbo was sealed by Nardo.

 

[Holy God]

I didn't say you were. It isn't possible because Naruto has never absorbed Bijuu chakra, not in this manner. He has been given the portions.

He wouldn't be absorbing them. He would be separating them from the hosts. They'd then get a physical form again, like against Obito.

 

[Zzz]

You make a lot of claims, it seems. I wonder where this one sits:

- Just one technique. He is still the Juubi Jin and should be able to create TBBs in Obito's manner? Or use his TSB in an offensive manner like Obito did? It creates a large explosion, by the way.

- Wait, are you actually downplaying TSBs? Lol

- Again, how many times has Sasuke created plans in such a manner? In fact, by manga evidence, there is no one who surpasses him in this department. An irrelevant point.

- It shouldn't stop him from incapacitating him, even for a second or two. Something he couldn't manage.

Whatever, sir.

Obito never created more TSBs, unless I'm missing something.
He can't do much with 1.

No, but according to your logic, 3 TSBs countered 3 Susano'o arrows. Does that mean Susano'o arrows are overpowered? No.

Who is denying that? I'm just saying that that time sufficed for the creation of a plan.

What do you exactly mean? You used "him" in the same context, so I don't really understand, haha.
If you mean that his bifurcation is not something to be allowed by Madara; it is. He didn't really care.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Scan showing it takes a long time to absorb chakra?

When Obito was gathering bijuu chakra from Madara, Madara was immobilised for a moment before stopping him, but Obito already gathered enough

Plus it took Sasuke less then a moment to gather chakra from all nine bijuu's

If he could do that, he would have done it to Naruto.

Madara wasn't immobilized. I don't know where you got that from.

He didn't use preta path. He used the same technique that rikudo used. Also the bijuus had to be under his genjutsu. He can't take the chakra while they're sealed in madara.

 

[shelke]

He wouldn't be absorbing them. He would be separating them from the hosts. They'd then get a physical form again, like against Obito.

Has he done it? The Bijuu basically came out from Kaguya, yet he couldn't do it when they were literally calling out to him. BZ confirms it. Without evidence, this is just speculation.

 

[IceSlayer]

Because both Obito/BZ tricked/backstabbed him. Madara thought Obito was on his side so he didn't pay attention. And he thought BZ was his will so it allowed BZ to backstab him. He is fighting Sasuke in our scenario. He will be on alert. And he can counter Sasuke's ST with Limbo easily. Note that when Sasuke bisected him his limbo was sealed by Nardo.

Madara isn't fast enough to counter S/T, he failed to counter it multiple times even with limbo

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[Bronze]

Sasuke's fans never cease to disgust me. Madara shits on him.

 

[Holy God]

Has he done it? The Bijuu basically came out from Kaguya, yet he couldn't do it when they were literally calling out to him. BZ confirms it. Without evidence, this is just speculation.

Yes, he's done it to Obito as I've previously stated. Naruto couldn't pull them out because he was nowhere near Kaguya and then she transformed into an unstable state.

 

[Itachi 4 life]

Madara isn't fast enough to counter S/T, he failed to counter it multiple times even with limbo

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What you linked is a different thing. Sasuke can stab Madara using his ST, but he can't touch him himself.

 

[IceSlayer]

If he could do that, he would have done it to Naruto.

Madara wasn't immobilized. I don't know where you got that from.

He didn't use preta path. He used the same technique that rikudo used. Also the bijuus had to be under his genjutsu. He can't take the chakra while they're sealed in madara.

Sasuke did absorb Naruto's kyuubi chakra

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If he could do that to Natuto while being exhausted, he can definitely do that to Madara

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What you linked is a different thing. Sasuke can stab Madara using his ST, but he can't touch him himself.

He can, he just needs rikudo chakra

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[Lord Tywin]

Sasuke did absorb Naruto's kyuubi chakra

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If he could do that to Natuto while being exhausted, he can definitely do that to Madara

A tiny bit. It was enough for a chidori infused with amaterasu. Nothing big. Also the fact that Naruto still had enough chakra to make. Rasengan.

 

[Itachi 4 life]

Sasuke did absorb Naruto's kyuubi chakra

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If he could do that to Natuto while being exhausted, he can definitely do that to Madara



He can, he just needs rikudo chakra

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He can't touch him because Limbo will block him, I posted a scan proving this. Doesn't matter that it's Madara with 2 eyes,Madara can still use limbo with 1 eye.

 

[shelke]

Yes, he's done it to Obito as I've previously stated. Naruto couldn't pull them out because he was nowhere near Kaguya and then she transformed into an unstable state.

He didn't pull it out alone, and Obito relinquished it because of the state he was in. Remember he took Naruto's hand himself?

 

[shelke]

A tiny bit. It was enough for a chidori infused with amaterasu. Nothing big. Also the fact that Naruto still had enough chakra to make. Rasengan.

He absorbed chakra out of nine Bijuus as well.

 

[Holy God]

He didn't pull it out alone, and Obito relinquished it because of the state he was in. Remember he took Naruto's hand himself?

And after that, the tailed beasts came out easily. They would have still got the beasts out, it would just have been harder and took longer. If any Holy Tree host was weakened enough, then Naruto could easily pull it out himself. It's all will-power.

 

[Lord Tywin]

He absorbed chakra out of nine Bijuus as well.

But we're talking about the juubi being inside madara.

 

[shelke]

Whatever, sir.

Obito never created more TSBs, unless I'm missing something.
He can't do much with 1.

No, but according to your logic, 3 TSBs countered 3 Susano'o arrows. Does that mean Susano'o arrows are overpowered? No.

Who is denying that? I'm just saying that that time sufficed for the creation of a plan.

What do you exactly mean? You used "him" in the same context, so I don't really understand, haha.
If you mean that his bifurcation is not something to be allowed by Madara; it is. He didn't really care.

- Why do you keep undermining TSBs? Can't do much, Naruto stopped his technique with TSB, so the technique is crap, all hope is lost just because he lost Limbo? This isn't even canon logic.

- What?

- I won't even touch this point again.

- I was talking about Madara using TBBs like Obito did here:

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. How does that make Limbo a make or break thing when it's useless against Sage's Senjutsu?

And after that, the tailed beasts came out easily. They would have still got the beasts out, it would just have been harder and took longer. If any Holy Tree host was weakened enough, then Naruto could easily pull it out himself. It's all will-power.

You mean after the combined effort of all the alliance? Come on, man. No it isn't. What the heck? Minato in BM was aiding him. Let's get real.

But we're talking about the juubi being inside madara.

It's about volume. Nagato instantly sucked out all V2 chakra from Bee. But Sasuke, whose Rinnegan control is far above Nagato and his techniques' power is above Juubi Madara - CT would be an example - cannot suck out enough to at least weaken Madara?

Petra Path is a game changer here. Whether he wins or not is another story. He can definitely suck out a substantial chakra from him.

 

[Lord Tywin]

- Why do you keep undermining TSBs? Can't do much, Naruto stopped his technique with TSB, so the technique is crap, all hope is lost just because he lost Limbo? This isn't even canon logic.

- What?

- I won't even touch this point again.

- I was talking about Madara using TBBs like Obito did here:

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. How does that make Limbo a make or break thing when it's useless against Sage's Senjutsu?




You mean after the combined effort of all the alliance? Come on, man. No it isn't. What the heck? Minato in BM was aiding him. Let's get real.



It's about volume. Nagato instantly sucked out all V2 chakra from Bee. But Sasuke, whose Rinnegan control is far above Nagato and his techniques' power is above Juubi Madara - CT would be an example - cannot suck out enough to at least weaken Madara?

Petra Path is a game changer here. Whether he wins or not is another story. He can definitely suck out a substantial chakra from him.

I never said he couldn't suck chakra out. I merely said the quantity is too much. Also taking enough to weaken madara is far fetched. He has to absorb at least more than half to weaken madara, which in my opinion takes time.

 

[shelke]

I never said he couldn't suck chakra out. I merely said the quantity is too much. Also taking enough to weaken madara is far fetched. He has to absorb at least more than half to weaken madara, which in my opinion takes time.

Why would it take time? Is there any evidence to support this? I never suggested that he would suck Madara dry in a second, which is preposterous. But take out 35 to 40 percent in one go? Why not.