did kishi moto say toreni as strong as madara?

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How strong is toreni? I heard few people say kishi said he as strong as madara is this madara base mode or madara juubi?
 

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It's all BS or kishi was mad high
 

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idk but he lost kcm Naruto while madara lost to bz
 

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It said in the DB if I am not mistaken that he was as strong as Maddy, but it didn't say which :|

I am betting EMS Madara
 

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In the databook, it was stated that the Tenseigan is roughly equal in power to the standard Rinnegan and that upon awakening it, he was as powerful as Madara.

Thing is, power alone doesn't suffice. You need to be skilled too, otherwise the power is all but wasted.
 

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He ment in toneri's dreams he was as strong as Madara
 

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I believe it was said that he was as strong as alive rinnegan madara
 

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stronger. hes roughly on hiruzens level
 

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I believe it was said that he was as strong as alive rinnegan madara

Then why the f*ck was he a threat? I mean, sh*t, what happened to naruto's and sasuke's powers?
 

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overpowerd more skilled at using the tsb than obtio and madara

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Toneri is pretty much the strongest character in Naruto. Well, he's definitly stronger than someone who would lose to BZ.
 

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Madara lost to BZ. While Toneri lost to BCM Naruto. Take your pick.
 

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It said in the DB if I am not mistaken that he was as strong as Maddy, but it didn't say which :|

I am betting EMS Madara

In the databook, it was stated that the Tenseigan is roughly equal in power to the standard Rinnegan and that upon awakening it, he was as powerful as Madara.

Thing is, power alone doesn't suffice. You need to be skilled too, otherwise the power is all but wasted.

He ment in toneri's dreams he was as strong as Madara

I believe it was said that he was as strong as alive rinnegan madara

It was a Naruto wiki error from what I heard. Even Hagoromo needed help creating the moon. So I don't see how they can be equal.
 

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Either way Lawd Obito negs with neck frilled lizzard :cool:
 

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Apparently he is as strong as Madara(I assume Juubi Jin Madara or dual Rinnegan Madara) and the Tenseigan is on the Rinnegan's level.
 

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Tenseigan = Double Rinnegan

DR JJ Madara > Toneri
 

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Toneri is pretty much the strongest character in Naruto. Well, he's definitly stronger than someone who would lose to BZ.

lelelelele Madara negs

Limbo Susano'o GG he can't see or sense them, it is GG for him if he faces DR JJ Madara
 

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lelelelele Madara negs

Limbo Susano'o GG he can't see or sense them, it is GG for him if he faces DR JJ Madara

Limbo won't damage someone that can survive a punch from Naruto that ran through a moon cutting attack.
 

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lelelelele Madara negs

Limbo Susano'o GG he can't see or sense them, it is GG for him if he faces DR JJ Madara

Limbo Susano'O is fanfic, so is your claim of him not seeing them, as he has Rikudo chakra, the same thing Naruto used to sense the Limbo clones. Madara gets sliced into pieces by his moon sword beam or is erased from existence via TSB.

Poor man is so weak he had to come back to life second time, steal his riva;'s powers, and absorb the Juubi just to be on par with a movie villian. lel
 
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