Why Hiashi, and The Hyūga as a Clan, are Underrated

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Too legit Apex. Well done.

I like how you broke things down and your knowledge on them is pretty damn good.

Not surprised since in our debates, you're naturally a reasonable person who prefers to stick by the Manga.
 

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This is the Best thread, people need to stop undermining the Hyuga clan, it's pretty cleared that the Hyuga are the strongest Taijutsu specialist, and the Byakugan posses amazing feats. It's also pretty apparent that the Hyuga have the best chakra control due to able to manipulate all of their 361 tenketsu and also expel chakra in the field range of vision so in other word Hinata has better chakra control than Sakura.

Agreed, thanks.

Very good thread with really well explained advantages of hyuuga style being used in fight. The thread is worth of time needed to read it and is ineed worthy of rep.

Basically given close or equal speed as enemy hyuuga can beat anyone. It does not make them supperior as even with speed equalized Rikudou blessed character or ootsutsuki deities themselves have much more chakra amount so they can be outlasted and also thee rikudou tiers character has hax ability or abilities enough to end Hyuuga in one attack.

Anyway avoiding going off-topic

Hashi could basically has chance to beat any ms user and weaker characters except perfect sages, ems user , ms user boosted with senjuu dna, space time ninjutsu users with great reaction time, ootsutsuki family and of course rikudou tier chatacters.

Flying shinobi and five kage are debatable

Thatnks for your efforts and time. LETS hope Kishi will give them justice finally for so long time of neglecting them.

Indeed, I agree.
Perfect sages may win, Space time user with the reaction speed also may win, I agree on the rest though. Some of the Gokage lose, some win. Flying Shinobi can't really counter air palm though, so they're knocked out of the sky.

And yeaa, I agree, and thanks dude.

Too legit Apex. Well done.

I like how you broke things down and your knowledge on them is pretty damn good.

Not surprised since in our debates, you're naturally a reasonable person who prefers to stick by the Manga.

Thanks broo.

Awesome thread.
The DB stated that Kaguya's eighty gods vacuum attack can potential be the strongest offensive ability.

Indeed, but everything Kaguya uses is deemed super OP. However, it still implies it could bypass the Susano by seeping into it and destroying its chakra, thus the previous notion of chakra not being capable of bypassing it is fallacious. And thanks m8.
 

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Top notch thread bro Lol tho i expected ntn less from u , ur points are direct an stay true to the manga.

I remember some idiot making a thread about sakura soloing the hyuga clan at night with a leap punch followed by summon Lol , hopefully this thread will neg any future threads of similar fashion , u cant simply catch hiashi slipping/sleepin , Wall Palm GG

Great thread man.
 

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People need to appreciate it better.
 

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Great thread, i love it .

Top notch thread bro Lol tho i expected ntn less from u , ur points are direct an stay true to the manga.

I remember some idiot making a thread about sakura soloing the hyuga clan at night with a leap punch followed by summon Lol , hopefully this thread will neg any future threads of similar fashion , u cant simply catch hiashi slipping/sleepin , Wall Palm GG

Great thread man.

Thank you, much appreciated.

No. Just no :leaf:

Susano has Tenketsu, so yes.
 

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This thread is good and very needed for everyone to understand many thing about Hyuuga and Byakugan unlike the thread created by Uzumaki Hyuga

And I agree with you OP, what you has stated here is what my self also thought all this time

Actually Hyuuga Clan can be quite powerful as other clans in NV, but they are underdeveloped by Kishi, I really not having any idea why Kishi neglecti g their developments.

You know what with proper development, Hyuuga Shinobi have a chance to achive something like Kaguya Senbon and Some Susanoo busting chakra punch among other things.

Even their chakra manipulation is unlike Sakura and Tsunade chakra manipulation, where's the latter just manipulating chakra for them self only but the former able to manipulating other peoples chakra not just their own.

Their vision is very good for combat closed range or far away.

Actually peoples is to afraid to admitting Hyuuga potentials because either they dont want to look like stupid or not to fond and adept to this clan.
 

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Actually Hyuuga Clan can be quite powerful as other clans in NV, but they are underdeveloped by Kishi, I really not having any idea why Kishi neglect their developments.

The hyuga is wat pulled me to naruto in the first place , i originally thought naruto was jus some lame copy of DBZ with gay comedy but the moment i saw hinata vs neji an how they could wreck ur inners with only a finger tap plus their unique fighting style i was glad to be wrong.

The hyuga with development should of had access to their own chakra avatars since they are masters of control in the form of Twin Lion fists an can expell chakra from their whole body , if u put those things together u get a chakra avatar via shape manipulation.

The hyuga also have acces to the elements, hinata has the same as sasuke, why couldn't she infuse her element into her jyuken? bein able to blast raiton from her finger tips similarly to fire benders ?

Kishi simply limited his manga to uchiha an spamin.
P1 > P2
 
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Susano has Tenketsu, so yes.

Im confused about this tho, sussano cant hav tenketsu since its just raw chakra, not a working body with chakra pathways since that would mean it has organs mixed in aswel.

Wall Palm still shits on any sussano neg diff bar PS.
 

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The hyuga is wat pulled me to naruto in the first place , i originally thought naruto was jus some lame copy of DBZ with gay comedy but the moment i saw hinata vs neji an how they could wreck ur inners with only a finger tap plus their unique fighting style i was glad to be wrong.

The hyuga with development should of had access to their own chakra avatars since they are masters of control in the form of Twin Lion fists an can expell chakra from their whole body , if u put those things together u get a chakra avatar via shape manipulation.

The hyuga also have acces to the elements, hinata has the same as sasuke, why couldn't she infuse her element into her jyuken? bein able to blast raiton from her finger tips similarly to fire benders ?

Kishi simply limited his manga to uchiha an spamin.
P1 > P2

Agreed for the most part of your post

Hyuuga as a concept is very unique and new to me, when many other going straight like DB style of fight with shooting a blast or something, Hyuuga style of fight is very delicate and sharp and the most important is straight to the point, they dont wasting much energy, what they applied is enough for their fight.

Who can stand up and fight when your weak point or chakra point is closed, look at DBZ:BOG for example when Witch done a karate chop on bills, he just collapsed like that, Someone should just went KO when their weak point is targeted unless asspull help them.

Above matters is enough for you to understand the concept/potential, how large your chakra was, when you got strike on your weak point,KO is sure.
 
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Lol what? Is there a scan for this fail or just your fanfic?

Im confused about this tho, sussano cant hav tenketsu since its just raw chakra, not a working body with chakra pathways since that would mean it has organs mixed in aswel.

Wall Palm still shits on any sussano neg diff bar PS.

Enton manifests straight from Susano. Madara's PS was holding seals. Sasuke's Bijuu PS was using Raiton like Chidori Senbon. Do you think these just pop out of raw chakra? No, that's not how it works, hence Susano have Tenketsu's, even if it makes little sense (it's manga after all).
 

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Tsukuyomi still negs, tho.

Tsukuyomi requires direct eye contact , it requires the victims eyes directly meeting the sharingan, not the sharingan directly meeting the victims since gai's strategy would fail if kakashi/itachi could simply look gai in the eye without him lookin at the sharingan also.

Byakugan shits on it so bad its not even funny, i can tell u many ways byakugan counters this but have no patience.

 

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I knew who all would like this post and I wasnt surprised by the names Lol

OT:They are underrated because none of them have any feats
 

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Enton manifests straight from Susano. Madara's PS was holding seals. Sasuke's Bijuu PS was using Raiton like Chidori Senbon. Do you think these just pop out of raw chakra? No, that's not how it works, hence Susano have Tenketsu's, even if it makes little sense (it's manga after all).

I can somewat agree but its not really set in stone so ill hav to be neutral on this point.

Hyuuga as a concept is very unique and new to me, when many other going straight like DB style of fight with shooting a blast or something, Hyuuga style of fight is very delicate and sharp

Yes their fighting style was a breathe of fresh air from the usual, P1 of naruto as a whole was simly better writen an had better fights , i honestly believed naruto could surpass DBZ back then, it came with something fresh an had a great cast an fiction, but in P2 all went downhill , It started off great with sasuke but then turned into "spam no jutsu'
 
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