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No.. You are the one who must think before you write.. Basing your preconceptions on biased views and ignoring the logic i bring to the table is a susceptible move for others to call you an ignorant..
I'm probably older then you.. And i can assure you that i know more about life then you..

First of all use decent punctuation and paragraphs. You post is presented like a pure mess..

If you knew about writting and you had read more then 3 books in your whole life. Then you would know that Kishi lacks consistency and that's what i'm criticizing.. He's also several times contraditory through the Manga..

No shit sherlock.. We are giving us news.. No one knew that Amaterasu,Izanagi,Susano'o,etc were names of gods from the japanese folclore..

I'm taking a major in Psychology. I know much more about emotions and hate then you. So don't try to act wise with me.
You just a simple no one near someone of my caliber.

A little lesson there's Hate and Hate.. The level of Hate and how well you react carrying that emotion is determined from how emotional and racional the person in question can be.
Some people can be very hateful but still be cold enough to act wisely.
Hate is an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness, you don't necessarily have to act stupid or kill a child to hurt the source of unhappiness.
You are just watching to many damn cheap melodramas or you are just depressed by nature to think all people that hate, act blindly and stupid.

Kishi is writting without any consistency for Sasuke that's a fact. Your post was just ignorant.
And how you were stupid enough to call me a kid was just laughable.

A genious is always a genious despite of the emotions he carries. It's strange that he acts so great against Deidara. Showing lack of emotions and keeps the same attitude against Itachi. Which he carried a vendetta against for 8 years. If something he should have acted stupid and careless against Itachi since he was at the time his biggest source of hate.

Then all of a suddent he starts acting like a mongoloid against KillerBee. How do you explain that,KID?? As he didn't carried any vendetta against Bee..

If Kishimoto had kept his consistensie.. Sasuke would have kept his attitude that he had against Itachi. Even against Danz?.

You base the way you said Kishimoto is more intelligent than all of you on what??
Kishimoto is far from a genious.. Yes he's creative and he has talent but he's far from a genious by many things he did and write and he is far from being more inteligent then an entire forum..

You have to review how you evaluate things and THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE..
Just because you are probably some depressed guy who acts without thinking when you are engulfed by hate. That does not mean everyone is like you..

Thank me later for put you in your place..

Adios
well i kind of agree with what you say here, but at the same time his attitude could be derived from the fact that he is just proud.
Think about it, ever since he got his MS he has been acting kind of reckless.

I think his attitude is simply because he feels that with his new found power he is stronger than everyone else's.
 

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No.. You are the one who must think before you write.. Basing your preconceptions on biased views and ignoring the logic i bring to the table is a susceptible move for others to call you an ignorant..
I'm probably older then you.. And i can assure you that i know more about life then you..

First of all use decent punctuation and paragraphs. You post is presented like a pure mess..

If you knew about writting and you had read more then 3 books in your whole life. Then you would know that Kishi lacks consistency and that's what i'm criticizing.. He's also several times contraditory through the Manga..

No shit sherlock.. We are giving us news.. No one knew that Amaterasu,Izanagi,Susano'o,etc were names of gods from the japanese folclore..

I'm taking a major in Psychology. I know much more about emotions and hate then you. So don't try to act wise with me.
You just a simple no one near someone of my caliber.

A little lesson there's Hate and Hate.. The level of Hate and how well you react carrying that emotion is determined from how emotional and racional the person in question can be.
Some people can be very hateful but still be cold enough to act wisely.
Hate is an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness, you don't necessarily have to act stupid or kill a child to hurt the source of unhappiness.
You are just watching to many damn cheap melodramas or you are just depressed by nature to think all people that hate, act blindly and stupid.

Kishi is writting without any consistency for Sasuke that's a fact. Your post was just ignorant.
And how you were stupid enough to call me a kid was just laughable.

A genious is always a genious despite of the emotions he carries. It's strange that he acts so great against Deidara. Showing lack of emotions and keeps the same attitude against Itachi. Which he carried a vendetta against for 8 years. If something he should have acted stupid and careless against Itachi since he was at the time his biggest source of hate.

Then all of a suddent he starts acting like a mongoloid against KillerBee. How do you explain that,KID?? As he didn't carried any vendetta against Bee..

If Kishimoto had kept his consistensie.. Sasuke would have kept his attitude that he had against Itachi. Even against Danz?.

You base the way you said Kishimoto is more intelligent than all of you on what??
Kishimoto is far from a genious.. Yes he's creative and he has talent but he's far from a genious by many things he did and write and he is far from being more inteligent then an entire forum..

You have to review how you evaluate things and THINK BEFORE YOU WRITE..
Just because you are probably some depressed guy who acts without thinking when you are engulfed by hate. That does not mean everyone is like you..

Thank me later for put you in your place..

Adios
I tottally desagree with you, but ok, i'm not here to discuss meaningless stuff with kids. I will just say one thing to you. You're making a comparision of fights (deidara, bee...), that are tottally different, before itachi and after itachi, before madara and after madara, you can not compare to emo states tottally different, he was cold before he killed is brother, now he has rage for killing his brother, and rage for knowing that his brother wasn't a bad person and suffered for that, and now of course he is different.
I have nothing more to say and don't act like god you too, i never did that, but you always think you know everything and criticising others historys, if you don't like it, don't read it but let the others enjoy the manga.

For those who said i'm a child because i don't know how to wright, i'm sorry but english is not my mother language, all i try to do is beeing understanded, nothing more, but if i disturb you with that, don't read it.
 

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well i kind of agree with what you say here, but at the same time his attitude could be derived from the fact that he is just proud.
Think about it, ever since he got his MS he has been acting kind of reckless.

I think his attitude is simply because he feels that with his new found power he is stronger than everyone else's.
yup sasuke thinks that he is the best ninja.............and that he can defeat all whom he faces using that ms..................that is difference between the person who worked for the ms and sasuke.................he is using it too much without a limit...........but itachi used it consistently and had it till longer time..................sasuke is just stupid as ever trying to act cool.................

I tottally desagree with you, but ok, i'm not here to discuss meaningless stuff with kids. I will just say one thing to you. You're making a comparision of fights (deidara, bee...), that are tottally different, before itachi and after itachi, before madara and after madara, you can not compare to emo states tottally different, he was cold before he killed is brother, now he has rage for killing his brother, and rage for knowing that his brother wasn't a bad person and suffered for that, and now of course he is different.
I have nothing more to say and don't act like god you too, i never did that, but you always think you know everything and criticising others historys, if you don't like it, don't read it but let the others enjoy the manga.

For those who said i'm a child because i don't know how to wright, i'm sorry but english is not my mother language, all i try to do is beeing understanded, nothing more, but if i disturb you with that, don't read it.

agreed............and your english is not so bad to complain about...........everyone who reads it will be able to understand it..........if they doesnt, then they are the one who doesnt know english.................
 
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like naruto he trying act cool and dosent follow comands acting like a captain and he just a little rat little kid a fakeninja and he living a dreamworld......and sakura too.... naruto and sakura need to be a real ninja...and wake up from dreamworld!!!!!
 
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well i kind of agree with what you say here, but at the same time his attitude could be derived from the fact that he is just proud.
Think about it, ever since he got his MS he has been acting kind of reckless.

I think his attitude is simply because he feels that with his new found power he is stronger than everyone else's.
Sasuke's personality these days is really unpredictable. It seems like aside from being drowned with more power, he has surely gone mad.

If I reckon it correctly, his personality changes amidst battles--hence, becoming colder, more ruthless and ridiculously lunatic.

I think the positive reality is somewhat distorted on him, as he thinks that the "positive" way is to destroy the entity that destroyed his lineage. That perception was triggered during the Uchiha clan massacre and evolved when he knew the truth about Itachi. Thus, it provokes him to be lustful for more power, since he cannot fulfill his vendetta sans having nothing at all. The obsession for both just made him more like a crazy berserker.

When in berserk mode, it seems like being reckless is a given, as you just destroy things without further critical thinking. There's no balance between mental (strategic thinking) and physical (attack) actions.

I tottally desagree with you, but ok, i'm not here to discuss meaningless stuff with kids. I will just say one thing to you. You're making a comparision of fights (deidara, bee...), that are tottally different, before itachi and after itachi, before madara and after madara, you can not compare to emo states tottally different, he was cold before he killed is brother, now he has rage for killing his brother, and rage for knowing that his brother wasn't a bad person and suffered for that, and now of course he is different.
I have nothing more to say and don't act like god you too, i never did that, but you always think you know everything and criticising others historys, if you don't like it, don't read it but let the others enjoy the manga.

For those who said i'm a child because i don't know how to wright, i'm sorry but english is not my mother language, all i try to do is beeing understanded, nothing more, but if i disturb you with that, don't read it.
Sasuke feels hatred before and after Itachi's death. The only difference is that it intensified after he knew the truth about Itachi.

The inconsistency though more likely evolved during Killer Bee vs Team Taka. Sasuke's genius were likely in question during that fight. He was cool and composed, yet he was really defeated on the first phase of the fight. I think the same composure was presented when he fought with Deidara, and he fought him great (thanks to Sasuke's genius and way of deducting through jutsus thx to his Sharingan). If only not for his "enamored" feelings toward his team and the old team, not to mention the sacrifice of his teammates just to save his sorry arse, he wouldn't have wielded his MS tech (Amaterasu and Blaze attack) when KB was in full hachibi transformation and was ready to attack them .

After which, he had just gone berserk during the Kage Summit. Well, say, there's hatred and full of emotions [because he's into killing spree for Danzo] involved which he's almost pwned by the kages if it wasn't for Madara saving his arse. Come the Danzo fight, he's still full of emotions and hatred, but heck, his genius returned like that. He was able to think tactically amidst the berserk mode. :confused:
 
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like naruto he trying act cool and dosent follow comands acting like a captain and he just a little rat little kid a fakeninja and he living a dreamworld......and sakura too.... naruto need to be a real ninja and sakura too...and wake up from dreamworld!!!!!
I believe that's pretty common for protagonists, except if Naruto is a protagonist and an anti-hero. The latter case is unlikely. :)

As for Sakura, le sigh, she's useless for the moment if not only with her medical jutsu skills.
 

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Sasuke's personality these days is really unpredictable. It seems like aside from being drowned with more power, he has surely gone mad.

If I reckon it correctly, his personality changes amidst battles--hence, becoming colder, more ruthless and ridiculously lunatic.

I think the positive reality is somewhat distorted on him, as he thinks that the "positive" way is to destroy the entity that destroyed his lineage. That perception was triggered during the Uchiha clan massacre and evolved when he knew the truth about Itachi. Thus, it provokes him to be lustful for more power, since he cannot fulfill his vendetta sans having nothing at all. The obsession for both just made him more like a crazy berserker.

When in berserk mode, it seems like being reckless is a given, as you just destroy things without further critical thinking. There's no balance between mental (strategic thinking) and physical (attack) actions.



Sasuke feels hatred before and after Itachi's death. The only difference is that it intensified after he knew the truth about Itachi.

The inconsistency though more likely evolved during Killer Bee vs Team Taka. Sasuke's genius were likely in question during that fight. He was cool and composed, yet he was really defeated on the first phase of the fight. I think the same composure was presented when he fought with Deidara, and he fought him great (thanks to Sasuke's genius and way of deducting through jutsus thx to his Sharingan). If only not for his "enamored" feelings toward his team and the old team, not to mention the sacrifice of his teammates just to save his sorry arse, he wouldn't have wielded his MS tech (Amaterasu and Blaze attack) when KB was in full hachibi transformation and was ready to attack them .

After which, he had just gone berserk during the Kage Summit. Well, say, there's hatred and full of emotions [because he's into killing spree for Danzo] involved which he's almost pwned by the kages if it wasn't for Madara saving his arse. Come the Danzo fight, he's still full of emotions and hatred, but heck, his genius returned like that. He was able to think tactically amidst the berserk mode. :confused:
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You really should think sometimes before writing. Obviously you're a kid who doesn't know what hatred is. I hope you won't pass for a situation like that in your life. Hatred is a feeling that is hard to explain but the person who hates a person so much, he just think about killing that person, he stops beeing rational, if he sees the person who hates and if there's a cop saying to him if you kill him i will kill you, the person with hatred is so obcessed and kills anyway, he didn't want to die but the hate blinds the persons mind. A person with hate does everything to acomplish his goal, even if it means to kill a young innocent child. So you're saying that kishi is doing something stupid, no, kishi is doing exacly what a person in sasuke's spot would do. kishi doesn't wright what comes through his mind, he does many research, he bases his history on some metology mixed with the real world, do you think the names amaterasu and izanagi just pumped into his head? No, the truth is that he is more intelligent than us, and inspite of all differents predictions there is, he can always surprises us, do you think that's beeing stupid? I think not. Sasuke was a genious in strategy in apearing from no where without anyone noticing him, but now is head is overloaded with hate, he can't think clearly, his ideas are all confused. he is the same person but the hatred is consumming him to his own death.

Why dont you kiss his feet since your bowing to him. you speak of kishi as if hes this all knowing god "he is more intelligent than us" is a lie. you cant say someone is more intelligent than people just because he can surprise you with a few twists and turns in a story. speak for yourself not us. and for all we know kishi couldve been ****in googlin izanagi and shit.


im not choosin sides in you two's little argument, i just read this and got frustrated.

"Sasuke was a genious in strategy in apearing from no where without anyone noticing him,"

Now when did sasuke appear from nowhere? That makes no sense whatsoever so please enlighten me.

you are right though, his hatred is consuming him, causing him to go blind.

"Obviously you're a kid who doesn't know what hatred is. I hope you won't pass for a situation like that in your life."
Dont talk shit about someone you dont know. because you know nothing that hes been through. hell he could be going through this hatred feeling as we speak, but you dont know that. attacking someone verbally with no intellect on their life is just like sasuke bullcharging into that fight with the raikage, reckless and stupid.
 

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agreed............and your english is not so bad to complain about...........everyone who reads it will be able to understand it..........if they doesnt, then they are the one who doesnt know english.................
Thank you for the support. I came here in the first place to discuss ideas and see interesting predictions and to have the possibility of enjoying the manga a little more. And also to have the opportunity to share my joy with others, but with persons who are always criticising the writer at every chapter it's difficult to enjoy the manga.

If they don't like it, don't read it, and don't comment, if they can do better, then do it, that way they can win extra bucks and don't p*ss us of.
 

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Sasuke feels hatred before and after Itachi's death. The only difference is that it intensified after he knew the truth about Itachi.

The inconsistency though more likely evolved during Killer Bee vs Team Taka. Sasuke's genius were likely in question during that fight. He was cool and composed, yet he was really defeated on the first phase of the fight. I think the same composure was presented when he fought with Deidara, and he fought him great (thanks to Sasuke's genius and way of deducting through jutsus thx to his Sharingan). If only not for his "enamored" feelings toward his team and the old team, not to mention the sacrifice of his teammates just to save his sorry arse, he wouldn't have wielded his MS tech (Amaterasu and Blaze attack) when KB was in full hachibi transformation and was ready to attack them .

After which, he had just gone berserk during the Kage Summit. Well, say, there's hatred and full of emotions [because he's into killing spree for Danzo] involved which he's almost pwned by the kages if it wasn't for Madara saving his arse. Come the Danzo fight, he's still full of emotions and hatred, but heck, his genius returned like that. He was able to think tactically amidst the berserk mode. :confused:
Nice points there, but you can see that before itachi, sasuke had that feeling that i won't kill anyone, i will be different from my brother. Now not only the hatred increased but now he is on his brother's side, so now he feels he must kill everyone to accomplish is goal that's why he is different.

Against deidara he said i don't want to have to kill you, and now he says i have to kill you and i want to do it quick so he goes on full power too soon.

I think this are reasonable ideas but if you desagree that's ok for me.
 

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on a little side note, everytime i see naruto_lee's profile pic i just think, "thats gonna happen again. just you wait...." lolz
maybe but not now because next chapter will be of talking.....nothing else and in the end of next chapter naruto will decide to fight but madara will come and once again save sasuke's asss........................................
 

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I've been noticing you.. You are a very valuable poster for this forum..
It's rarer and rarer.. Congratulations..
Thank you! I hope it does not equate me being older. lolol.

Something just occurred to me. Things like Madara saving Sasuke`s ass now are way too obvious, and if we know Kishi right, that will probobly not be the outcome.

Madara is busy in his secret lair. He will probobly wrap to the base first before even thinking that Sasuke might be in danger. So as someone else said. I don`t believe Madara will save him this time.

As far as i can see, there can only be two outcomes which doesn`t involve Madara:

1: Team seven talks for a bit then Sasuke somehow manage to summon that hawk again and Naruto is going to be like: "Let him go this time Kakashi". I really don`t believe that this will be the outcome.

2: Which i didn`t even imagine could happend. Sasuke is almost blind now, and his eyesight is blurry. He is surounded by three Konoha Ninjas.

One thing that could really benefit Konoha now would be to take Sasuke as a hostage/capture him and bring him back to Konoha(since he can`t do much now) and let Ibiki Interogate him for info about Akatsuki and Madara`s plans.
Maybe we will see a secret rescue-mission by Sugitsu and Jugo or Zetsu and/or Madara himself.

Cause really. Does anyone think that Naruto and co. will Kill Sasuke? I guess not. Would it be right by Kishi to have Madara saving Sasuke`s ass yet again? That`s too predictable.

I`m going to bet one the second outcome. Any thoughts on that possibility?:);)

Good point! The author might throw something out-of-curiosity that's less obvious. Madara saving Sasuke is pretty much predictable, as I hafta admit I also predicted the same.

The second one (capture and interrogation) seems pretty interesting if that happens.

...but with persons who are always criticising the writer at every chapter it's difficult to enjoy the manga.

If they don't like it, don't read it, and don't comment, if they can do better, then do it, that way they can win extra bucks and don't p*ss us of.
There'll always be critiques, just as there'll always be the other side of the coin. And, as long as one is capable of doing constructive criticism, it's definitely a good one to pass up and discuss over a substantial argument. Even the brightest people in history were crucified during their lifetime--some up to now.

Anyhoos, critiques make things palatable to continuously digest the story more and discuss or elaborate more of it, whether to digress or to support to the other coin's idea.

Also, if everyone agrees or is pleased with every step of the author, I don't think it would be this exciting. It's rather boring, don't you think? Simply because, there's no point in making such tasteful arguments. :)


Nice points there, but you can see that before itachi, sasuke had that feeling that i won't kill anyone, i will be different from my brother. Now not only the hatred increased but now he is on his brother's side, so now he feels he must kill everyone to accomplish is goal that's why he is different.

Against deidara he said i don't want to have to kill you, and now he says i have to kill you and i want to do it quick so he goes on full power too soon.

I think this are reasonable ideas but if you desagree that's ok for me.
I won't crucify you, but I kind of beg to differ :)

If Sasuke is resolved into killing anyone after he knew the truth about Itachi, he would have let Karin die then (during the Killer Bee vs Team Taka battle). He would have not used the blaze attack because of some apparent willpower in which he's gone emotional over the teamwork thing. He would just be as indifferent as he is today.

I have to add something, but I will wait for your reply.
 
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maybe but not now because next chapter will be of talking.....nothing else and in the end of next chapter naruto will decide to fight but madara will come and once again save sasuke's asss........................................
maybe not though. we have no idea as of the whereabouts of juugo and suigetsu. they couldve escaped and hot on his trail. i think the kages might appear, finding sasuke and try to engage in battle with him. that is when i think madara will show up. and save his ass like always. why doesnt he just take itachis eyes and train with madara just like he did with oro?? that would be a better use of time. then come destroy the village. imo.
 

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There'll always be critiques, just as there'll always be the other side of the coin. And, as long as one is capable of doing constructive criticism, it's definitely a good one to pass up and discuss over a substantial argument. Even the brightest people in history were crucified during their lifetime--some up to now.

Anyhoos, critiques make things palatable to continuously digest the story more and discuss or elaborate more of it, whether to digress or to support to the other coin's idea.

Also, if everyone agrees or is pleased with every step of the author, I don't think it would be this exciting. It's rather boring, don't you think? Simply because, there's no point in making such tasteful arguments. :)
I agree with but i think there's a lot difference beetween contrutive critics and some critics that are beeing written here, trying to destroy the writer and the caracters. But completely agree with you.


I won't crucify you, but I kind of beg to differ :)

If Sasuke is resolved into killing anyone after he knew the truth about Itachi, he would have let Karin die then (during the Killer Bee vs Team Taka battle). He would have not used the blaze attack because of some apparent willpower in which he's gone emotional over the teamwork thing. He would just be as indifferent as he is today.

I have to add something, but I will wait for your reply.
You're right, you have a point there. But i still think that happen on bee's fight because he was still to emo, his brother's death happen short time ago and his team was still usefull to him. I think the kage summit was the "turn arround" for sasuke because after that battle he didn't care about juugo and suigetsu, maybe something he heard or something madara told him he dosn't care about anyone now.
 
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