Misconception: "Minato used FTG and not Body flicker"

[AlphaScythian]

minato placing markings on leaves now? Coincidence that that specific tree would be needed by minato in the future. I think all marking are always placed on a flat surface.

Not to mention that this isn't viz. No idea what the actual translation for the effects are. Because look at the kanji/japanese symbol on this page:

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And then look at it on this page:

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They're completely different symbols yet the translator puts the same sound effect.

Because throwing a kunai there is beyond one's mental and physical capabilities?

Both kanji symbols have same part in there. The one that looks like twisted smiley

 

[Gold Lightning]

Because throwing a kunai there is beyond one's mental and physical capabilities?

Both kanji symbols have same part in there. The one that looks like twisted smiley

So where's the kunai on the tree? He teleported to the seal on Kushina (that's the first time he arrives in kushinas location), you telling me he then threw a kunai which magically curved its way to the top of a cliff faster than kurama could stamp his claw? This is some serious reaching here Lol. And minato didn't put it there before hand, he got to kushina at that last moment and used his speed to get away.

Use your eyes, the kanji aren't the same. I see the smiley youre talking about. The first scan, the two strokes are vertical but slanted to the right. The other scan shows that the strokes are slanted left. Only thing in common is the backwards tick thing under it. Still competely different. That's like if a japanese person was trying to translate english letters and he saw a "d" and a "b". and the fool thinks they're the same, just because they appear the same. The 2 kanji used in those scans are clearly different from the other, and besides, the remaining kanji above the smileys on each page are completely different things entirely, both completely different signs. So don't know why you're trying to make them seem the same, obviously lazy fan translation there, both are not Fpp, as we the readers can clearly see based by the different kanji.

And if you really want to play like that, fine. When minato teleports kushina back to the safe house, you see he leaves a puff of smoke on the tree, and then when he arrives inside the safe house, we see more smoke puffs. Yet when he saves kushina from getting squashed and "shunshins" to the tree, there is no smoke.

 

[Valhorus]

The symbol that is used mainly for Minato's hiraishin is this , look it carefully .

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[AlphaScythian]

@Gold, kunai is stuck on the tree trunk, behind the leaves lol

We all know smokes werent always shown U_U

And besides you claim it shunshin but kanji for shunshin or fast movements are totally different

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The symbol that is used mainly for Minato's hiraishin is this , look it carefully .

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Mainly is the right word to use

 

[Gold Lightning]

@Gold, kunai is stuck on the tree trunk, behind the leaves lol

We all know smokes werent always shown U_U

And besides you claim it shunshin but kanji for shunshin or fast movements are totally different

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Mainly is the right word to use

you have to admit that its highly unbelievable of there being a marking or kunai in a tree. I mean its a tree for goodness sake, a random ass tree that minato has probably never come into contact with, in his entire life.

Anyway, kishi was consistent with ftg in that chapter:

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( we see the smoke both times when he teleports and again when he arrives at his destination)

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(again, smoke both times when he teleports and when he arrives).

There was no way he could have teleported to that tree without prior marking, and there is no evidence of there being a marking either, no is it believable that the leaves were marked. And there is no trace of smoke, which kishi made sure to show everytime it was used in that chapter. And having an entirely different kanji used from both the shunshin kanji as well as ftg kanji. Understandlable that it's not the same as the shunshin one, considering it's not a direct straight line minato ran in, he went upwards and landed on tree branches (which obviusly has it's own sound effect).

You claimed it was ftg, despite it being different from was ftg is as well.

 

[AlphaScythian]

you have to admit that its highly unbelievable of there being a marking or kunai in a tree. I mean its a tree for goodness sake, a random ass tree that minato has probably never come into contact with, in his entire life.

Anyway, kishi was consistent with ftg in that chapter:

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( we see the smoke both times when he teleports and again when he arrives at his destination)

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(again, smoke both times when he teleports and when he arrives).

There was no way he could have teleported to that tree without prior marking, and there is no evidence of there being a marking either, no is it believable that the leaves were marked. And there is no trace of smoke, which kishi made sure to show everytime it was used in that chapter. And having an entirely different kanji used from both the shunshin kanji as well as ftg kanji. Understandlable that it's not the same as the shunshin one, considering it's not a direct straight line minato ran in, he went upwards and landed on tree branches (which obviusly has it's own sound effect).

You claimed it was ftg, despite it being different from was ftg is as well.

Dude, im not saying kunai or marking was there long before all i said that its logically more plausible for him to throw kunai there just before he teleported.

I claimed it FTG? Or i said that FFFP SFX bothers me?

Even if it wasnt FTG then feat is greatly over wanked and reason for that it the fact the dust from kurama attack is mostly dispersed before he is shown on the tree which doesnt make it so impressive.

For all we know he barely dodged that fox paw

 

[Bantos]

It was obviously FTG. :|

 

[Gold Lightning]

It was obviously FTG. :|

These comments that add nothing are so pointless. If it's so obvious then explain, if not dont comment. It clearly wasn't ftg.

 

[Bantos]

These comments that add nothing are so pointless. If it's so obvious then explain, if not dont comment. It clearly wasn't ftg.

Kakashi had the kunai with ftg markings. Kakashi was in trouble, Minato activated his ftg.
There it's explained. Why would he put his student in danger by using a clearly slower technique than ftg?

 

[Valhorus]

Kakashi had the kunai with ftg markings. Kakashi was in trouble, Minato activated his ftg.
There it's explained. Why would he put his student in danger by using a clearly slower technique than ftg?

And how he wraped back to Obito and Rin without any markings there ?

 

[Bantos]

And how he wraped back to Obito and Rin without any markings there ?

He probably left a mark there.

Does it really matter if it's shunshin or ftg?

 

[Gold Lightning]

Dude, im not saying kunai or marking was there long before all i said that its logically more plausible for him to throw kunai there just before he teleported.

I claimed it FTG? Or i said that FFFP SFX bothers me?

Even if it wasnt FTG then feat is greatly over wanked and reason for that it the fact the dust from kurama attack is mostly dispersed before he is shown on the tree which doesnt make it so impressive.

For all we know he barely dodged that fox paw

so explain, how did he put a kunai there. It's totally illogical. Minato didn't know kuishinas location. That's why obito separated them and took her elsewhere. The only marking that was in the vicinity was in kushinas stomach. So tell me how did minato get there to mark the tree first, and then go back to kishina?

Ok fine, you said the fpp bothers you. Yet you can clearly see it is lazy translations. I've seen 3 different symbols, on different pages, yet the translator puts fpp for all of them. So I wouldn't take them that seriously if I were you. is it not better to use common sense and actually look at the kanji yourself to see if they are the same?

Da heck am I reading. You cant even see nor can you tell where minatos location is in that panel. Plus that page is zoomed out, so he'd only look like a dot even if you could find him. Not sure how dust from kuramas attack makes things less impressive -_-.

I don't care if it was barely. The point is he did it, no one cares about the variables.

funny thing is I was never talking about how impressive the feat was, i was just telling you it wasn't ftg. The fact that you are trying to downrate a feat by demeaning it as much as you can with such irrelevant statements, shows how badly you don't want to acknowledge the feat. You feel intimidated by it or what, that minato can cross such a distance with foot speed alone? Because I never said anything about it being impressive or amazing, I was just saying which technique he used to do it. He teleported to kushina, and then outran kuramas claw, simple as that. You think I care if it was barely.

 

[Valhorus]

He probably left a mark there.

Does it really matter if it's shunshin or ftg?

For the sake of this thread it matters .

 

[Gold Lightning]

Kakashi had the kunai with ftg markings. Kakashi was in trouble, Minato activated his ftg.
There it's explained. Why would he put his student in danger by using a clearly slower technique than ftg?

nope. the same kanji used and same effects shown when minato rescued kakashi, was then shown again when minato appeared next to rin and obito. Don't you dare say he left a mark on the ground, proof or dont bother. We can even see the ground and there is nothing there. And we know it wasn't ftg because we see minato dash away again:

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As you can see, Minato has shown proof that he can cross that distance with his foot speed alone, twice in quick succession. He got there with body flicker and he got back with body flicker.

Kakashi had a kunai, ok. Doesn't mean he used it. The author didn't make reference to it in either the manga or darabook either. Rin and Obito also weren't surprised by minato speed. It was only when minato teleproted to the marking on miharus leg (the databook and manga put so much emphsasis here), that rin acted so shocked at the speed. Why would she react like that if she had just seen the jutsu twice a second ago. Shes not stupid.

Why did Miharu not act surprised when he saved Kakashi? He acted shocked only when minato actually teleported behind him. Why do you think miharu only recognised who the yellow flash was when minato teleported behind him. When minato saved kakashi, Miharu even saw minatos movements, as he stated himself. You don't see movement when ftg is used.

There are like 10 different reasons why it is shunshin. While the only evidence you have is the kunai, that clearly minato didn't use, nor did the databook say was used. All it said was that minato "saved kakashi" (doesn't say with FTG), and used that instant to at the same time "mark his oppoenent with the jutsu shiki".

 

[AlphaScythian]

so explain, how did he put a kunai there. It's totally illogical. Minato didn't know kuishinas location. That's why obito separated them and took her elsewhere. The only marking that was in the vicinity was in kushinas stomach. So tell me how did minato get there to mark the tree first, and then go back to kishina?

Simple and straight forward. He got to kushina mark then 'OMG kyuubi paw incoming' threw effing kunai to a tree he liked to increase range and speed at which he will get his arse out.

Ok fine, you said the fpp bothers you. Yet you can clearly see it is lazy translations. I've seen 3 different symbols, on different pages, yet the translator puts fpp for all of them. So I wouldn't take them that seriously if I were you. is it not better to use common sense and actually look at the kanji yourself to see if they are the same?

Sadly i'd rather trust impartial translators then minato fans on the matter, call me crazy

Da heck am I reading. You cant even see nor can you tell where minatos location is in that panel. Plus that page is zoomed out, so he'd only look like a dot even if you could find him. Not sure how dust from kuramas attack makes things less impressive -_-.

It indicates that decent period of time has passed U_U

I don't care if it was barely. The point is he did it, no one cares about the variables.

Well, i care. Minato fans be like 'OMG minato blitzed 100m neg diff, best shunshin ever' while he barely escaped damn paw and disappeared in the dust

funny thing is I was never talking about how impressive the feat was, i was just telling you it wasn't ftg. The fact that you are trying to downrate a feat by demeaning it as much as you can with such irrelevant statements, shows how badly you don't want to acknowledge the feat. You feel intimidated by it or what, that minato can cross such a distance with foot speed alone? Because I never said anything about it being impressive or amazing, I was just saying which technique he used to do it. He teleported to kushina, and then outran kuramas claw, simple as that. You think I care if it was barely.

Lets not get into funny things, you are the one to go against DB FTG scans and claim its shunshin cuz you feel intimidated minato is nothing but FTG spammer :vincent:

I already cut you big slack this time around

 

[Gold Lightning]

Simple and straight forward. He got to kushina mark then 'OMG kyuubi paw incoming' threw effing kunai to a tree he liked to increase range and speed at which he will get his arse out.

XD XD XD
Stopped reading right here, you obviosuly can't be taken seriously. I really want to believe you are trolling, and you aren't that effing stupid.

Lets just look at what you're saying, hopefully your brain wakes up and realizes the stupidity it is relaying to you.

So what you're saying is Minato telepoted into here at the last second:

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Then looked up, saw the claw coming, pulled out a kunai, and then did this:

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As the red line shows, minato somehow threw his kunai upwards all the way to the top of that cliff, and landed it perfectly onto the top of that tree.

For someone who is trying to make minato look bad, you sure are making him look good Lol. I've never seen a kunai throwing feat like that before. You do realize how retarded you must be to think such a thing right. Not to mention that minato would have had to throw his kunai upwards, which would have hit kuramas claw and deflected off it, there wasn't even enough space or time to throw a kunai.

The only way minatos kunai could have got passed the claw is if he threw the kunai straight. But then that means minato magically curved the kunai and changed its direction and then somehow increased its momentum to reach the top of that far away cliff. I can't believe what i've just read.

The fact you even think minato had the time to:
- teleport in (to kushinas location)
- look up
- pull out a kunai,
- throw the kunai all that distance
- wait for it to land on the tree
- and then teleport to it.

Pls tell me, was kuramas claw falling in slow mo or what? Don't you think minato would have teleported to back home, instead of to a tree if he really used ftg there.

 

[TrollingSage]

Simple and straight forward. He got to kushina mark then 'OMG kyuubi paw incoming' threw effing kunai to a tree he liked to increase range and speed at which he will get his arse out.
Sadly i'd rather trust impartial translators then minato fans on the matter, call me crazy
It indicates that decent period of time has passed U_U

Well, i care. Minato fans be like 'OMG minato blitzed 100m neg diff, best shunshin ever' while he barely escaped damn paw and disappeared in the dust

Lets not get into funny things, you are the one to go against DB FTG scans and claim its shunshin cuz you feel intimidated minato is nothing but FTG spammer :vincent:

I already cut you big slack this time around

You do realize it would have taken Minato longer to throw a kunai and teleport to it than to use shunshin right? You're actually making Minato look good here.

 

[Gold Lightning]

You do realize it would have taken Minato longer to throw a kunai and teleport to it than to use shunshin right? You're actually making Minato look good here.

exactly what I just said.

It's an impossible feat.

 

[Demonic.]

Minato's speed is pretty much instant without FTG, i wonder why he bothers using FTG then

 

[Apêx1]

Everything points towards FTG. Minato using Shunshin in one scenario instead of using Hirashin in that situation does not implicate that this situation would've been Shunshin. Clearly, it was FTG, thus it remains FTG.