[Discussion] Bartolomeo, Viola and Kyros won't join the Strawhats.
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He is actually quite ruthless. So he is similar to most of those I've mentioned.
Luffy would risk his life to become Pirate King
Zoro would risk his life to become the WSS
Nami would risk her life to draw a map of the World
Sanji would risk his life to find the All Blue
Chopper would risk his life to create an All-Curing Medicine
Robin would risk her life to learn the True History
Franky would risk his life to ride his "Dream Ship"
Brook would risk his life to meet Laboon once more
They've always fought to the death for the good of the crew, always with their own goals in mind. Bartolomeo is probably the same considering his massive fangirling fits, already mentioning he "would risk his life" to find Luffy in the Colosseum for Zoro
Bege isn't an antagonist, Crocodile is debatable, Lucci is debatable, Caesar is debatable. Former antagonists, yes, but not certainly antagonists anymore
Wasn't Bartolomeo portrayed as an antagonist until we found out his admiration for Luffy?
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Franky and Sanji also had equivalent to crews that they left.
Nami and Usopp also had friends that they left as well. Luffy even said multiple times that Law is his nakama despite Law having his own crew. Barto having a crew isn't a good enough reason for why he won't join.
Nami and Usopp also had friends that they left as well. Luffy even said multiple times that Law is his nakama despite Law having his own crew. Barto having a crew isn't a good enough reason for why he won't join.
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So Bartolomeo's gonna join the crew, and then? I guess he'll just follow the rest of the members and watch as they fulfill their own dreams, eh? That'd be great, I really can't wait to see the joy on his face.
Nothing suggests that Bartolomeo, Viola, Kyros, and Rebecca, have dreams that can be achieved by travelling the world. Not only that, but we've already seen plenty of flashbacks of them all, and no dreams have been hinted at. At least the rest of the Strawhats' dreams were hinted at before they joined the crew, or before we saw their pasts.
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Just two days ago you were saying Sugar could join and Oda could reveal a dream and circumstances that would let her fit in. Now you're ruling out that possibility for Barto, Kyros, Viola, and Rebecca.
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His dream could easily be to help make Luffy become Pirate King. Or maybe, to find Dragon or something along those lines (finds out the lightning strike was Dragon, looks up to Sabo etc.). You can't rule out the possibility of a dream being unveiled later, which I have already extensively explained earlier in the thread. We didn't know Nami's dream or Choppers dream till arcs after they join. Some Mugiwara's dreams were only revealed at the end of the arc such as Robin, Franky and Brook.
To be honest seeing the Strawhats accomplishing their goals would bring joy to Bartolomeo anyways. #sarcasmbackfires
Brooks dream, Nami's dream, Zoro's dream, Choppers dream and Usopps dream all don't require travelling. But they travel anyways. So what's your point? That only Luffy, Sanji, Robin and Franky are legitimate Strawhats and the rest aren't? And actually:
Luffy's dream was mentioned 579 chapters before his sad flashback and Robins was revealed 132 chapters later, yet we had little hints of her past dropped in every few chapters or so. Lol. On the contrary (which also opposes the other extreme of your point), Nami, Usopp, Chopper and Franky all had their flashbacks before their goals were established and known to the readers.
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Yes, because we've already seen plenty of their pasts. We would've seen at least something close to a dream by now. However, we know literally nothing about Sugar, except that she has a fear of long things. Her potential exceeds the rest by far. How is this so hard to grasp?
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Except hers doesn't? We can still have a dream for Bartolomeo. Shit, for all we know his dream is gonna turn out to be to sail with Luffy. You're just exhibiting a bias to Sugar right now.
Personally i think that Viola or Rebecca would be a good fit for the Straw Hats. Zorro could be the person to train her because she obviously has loads of potential but was only taught how to defend herself without harming the opponent. Viola would be a great asset to Nami when it comes to Navigation, also to the whole crew when they start looking for other people. I dont see Kryos joining, cuz the island needs him and so will the King. While Viola and Rebecca are none essential to the island.
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Why shouldnt they? Kryos was there for her the entire time. Its not like he was off on some journey and came back. Her staying with him doesnt do anything for her, she doesnt gain anything, and neither does he...
Also rebecca has proven that for the most part she can defend herself without much aid.
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Why should Kyros stay with his underage daughter that he just swore to protect? Are you seriously wondering why should Kyros stay with his daughter?
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But, you should consider different bond nakama they have. Barto is pirate captain, position that cannot be used to messing around. He have his pride and dignity there, he can't just abandon and betray his crew for his own sake to join another pirate crew. Not to mention Luffy most hate those people who betray their own nakama.
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Nope. Franky had the same nakama bond with the Franky Family, but because he left them on consenting, mutual good terms, Luffy didn't mind. If Barto talks about with his crew and they're okay with him leaving, Luffy wouldn't care either. Shit, they could join too.
Wether or not the kids are of age means nothing, look at luffy, and sabo, and ace.
The question is not should he stay with her. Its will she choose to leave, with the key word being choose, he couldnt stop her from joining the murderfest they call the coliseum. She is great at defending herself and i dont think that she will learn much more being with Kyros, I think she would learn more from joining the strawhats and having zorro as a mentor (even though they dont really have any type of relationship) but as it stands she and viola would stand a better chance of joining the strawhats 1. With there relationship to luffy, and 2. because they would serve better purpose with the strawhats then staying on dressrossa (viola will probably be despised even though she went against doffy). Also Kyros will probably trust the strawhats to keep Rebecca safe since they play such a vital role in removing doffy as the controller of dressrossa.
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1. Rebecca doesn't even want to fight anymore at all in her. Learning more from the Strawhats is irrelevant.
2. Kyros just said she never has to fight anymore because he's there now. They aren't splitting up, and Kyros isn't leaving Dressrosa because of his allegiance to Riku and the kingdom, as well as the Tontotta
3. Kyros and Rebecca have been unable to live together and be a proper family for over a decade. Rebecca has been living her life without any memories of her father for over ten years. There's no way they're splitting up
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No ... Franky is from underworld boss become pirate crew ... this is different kind. If Barto join .... from pirate captain become pirate crew. (Bold) Actually funny ... yeah they will join and Barto + crew will become next strawhat ally.
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Bartolomeo's Pirate Crew is likely to be his Slum Mafia in Loguetown. Same thing, again. It makes no difference.
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No ... it's different ... Franky cannot close to Sunny and become pirate if he not leave his crew. Barto still can close to Luffy and become pirate, no need to abandon his crew.