[Discussion] Why do people?

[chopstickchakra]

First of all, learn how to quote me properly. It gets real irritating having to deal with idiots who don't know how to quote.

Second, if you want to continue to evade the feats that have been placed then I cannot help you. You want to b!tch about Kubo and how he is the creator of this manga. Well, no shit Sherlock. That doesn't mean that we cannot debate and look at certain feats and judge for ourselves who is stronger. It's like you don't even know the purpose of versus sections and how they work.

Lastly, I have no patience for some fool who looks at the manga as some one directional pamphlet without actually thinking and looking for themselves of what and who is stronger, given what we see and what happens, it's not that hard to determine the ranks.

Kubo gave us a list to keep us interested and that list determines who has the best ability. I already explained above how if Ulquiorra knew about Aizen creating him, then he would also know if Aizen knew about his Segunda transformation.

Facts are:
> Harribel could barely handle Toshiro and some shitty female visords
> R1 Ulquiorra could easily handle experienced hollow bankai Ichigo

The Ichigo that fought Ulquiorra is stronger than Toshiro.

Oh the irony of some loser who is saying I am disagreeing with the manga, but he is refusing to look at feats and disregarding the fact that Segunda was not apart of the ranking list, all because he thinks Aizen knows everything, when in fact he didn't know that he was going to lose to Ichigo and Kisuke.

" That doesn't mean that we cannot debate and look at certain feats and judge for ourselves who is stronger. It's like you don't even know the purpose of versus sections and how they work."

This isn't a vs section just because you want to turn it into a fight. And you can't argue about a ranking when it's already established that's like saying Sternritter I is stronger than B just because his feats were better and he fought a tougher opponent. They're ranked how their ranked end of discussion.

For the record it wasn't even Aizen that ranked him 4th it was Kubo and He knew what powers all of the Espada have so again Ulq is properly placed at slot 4.

 

[Dannie]

" That doesn't mean that we cannot debate and look at certain feats and judge for ourselves who is stronger. It's like you don't even know the purpose of versus sections and how they work."

This isn't a vs section just because you want to turn it into a fight. And you can't argue about a ranking when it's already established that's like saying Sternritter I is stronger than B just because his feats were better and he fought a tougher opponent. They're ranked how their ranked end of discussion.

For the record it wasn't even Aizen that ranked him 4th it was Kubo and He knew what powers all of the Espada have so again Ulq is properly placed at slot 4.

@bold: Cool. I think you just lost all of your credibility, and you just proved to me that, regardless of feats, if someone is ranked higher than someone, then feats are irrelevant.

So, basically you're telling me that Harribel is stronger than R2 Ulquiorra because she was ranked higher when in fact you have no proof that Segunda was included in his ranking list?

Oookay then.

 

[chopstickchakra]

@bold: Cool. I think you just lost all of your credibility, and you just proved to me that, regardless of feats, if someone is ranked higher than someone, then feats are irrelevant.

So, basically you're telling me that Harribel is stronger than R2 Ulquiorra because she was ranked higher when in fact you have no proof that Segunda was included in his ranking list?

Oookay then.

You have no proof it wasn't. Oookay then.

 

[Dannie]

You have no proof it wasn't. Oookay then.

I have feats on my side, sir lol.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I have feats on my side, sir lol.

You have no feats, you have absolutely nothing that shows Aizen didn't know about his own creations power levels. You wanna talk feats how about the feat shown in the manga where the worst Espada shows a second form. Why should rational readers believe you and yours and assume that if the lowest Espada and the number 4 Espada had 2nd forms then none of the others did simply because we weren't shown them? I refer you back to my previous point which you decided to ignore about Shinigami knowing Kido despite never showing it. Or the fact that Harribel's water was able to keep up with the strongest ice Zanpakuto in Soul Society, you may want to dismiss it but that's no light feat or that she fought equally in a 3 on 1 until Aizen killed her.

Since you like to play the interpretation game try this one on: The Ichigo that fought in Hueco Mundo was still using Quincy powered Zangetsu. We learned in this most recent arc that Arrancar are like a poison and natural weakness to Quincy. So Ulq had an automatic edge over Ichigo. Hw about that Grimmjow beat up Ichigo does that mean he should be above Harribel and Barragan and Stark as well? How about it took Kenpachi and Byakuya, both barely weaker than Ichigo, to defeat 2nd form Yammy does that mean 2nd form Yammy is stronger than Harribel because he was beaten by tougher opponents.

Just because a character says something in a manga doesn't mean it's true especially when shown otherwise such as Killua saying he would kill Netero bac in the hunter exam arc or Obito saying he was Madara. It's called hype, sir and you got sucked into it hard.

Also if you're done trying to derail the point of this thread how about you actually try and come up with some reasonable excuse that Aizen didn't know about the power in a weapon he made that lived in a world he knew everything about. That's right you can't so you try to flip this into some weird bashing thread saying I'm putting down Ulq, I'm not I'm putting down people like you who are overplacing him, he was accurately placed.

You have no feats, you have no leg to standon, all you have are your ingrained prejudices towards Ulq and your fanatisicm stopping you from seeing what it really is. Aizen knew about his powers and Kubo knew what powers he was giving Ulq and he was still ranked #4 time for crybabies like you to get over it.

 

[Dannie]

You have no feats, you have absolutely nothing that shows Aizen didn't know about his own creations power levels. You wanna talk feats how about the feat shown in the manga where the worst Espada shows a second form. Why should rational readers believe you and yours and assume that if the lowest Espada and the number 4 Espada had 2nd forms then none of the others did simply because we weren't shown them? I refer you back to my previous point which you decided to ignore about Shinigami knowing Kido despite never showing it. Or the fact that Harribel's water was able to keep up with the strongest ice Zanpakuto in Soul Society, you may want to dismiss it but that's no light feat or that she fought equally in a 3 on 1 until Aizen killed her.

Toshiro is fodder. Fighting against him isn't impressive at all.

As I have said like 1000 times now, if Aizen did know then Ulquiorra would have been placed above Harribel from the feats and ability he has shown.
>Harribel could barely fk around with Toshiro
>R1 Ulquiorra was raping Bankai hollowfied Ichigo easily

You do the math.

No surprise, you're probably one of those idiots who think that Yammy is the strongest.

Since you like to play the interpretation game try this one on: The Ichigo that fought in Hueco Mundo was still using Quincy powered Zangetsu. We learned in this most recent arc that Arrancar are like a poison and natural weakness to Quincy. So Ulq had an automatic edge over Ichigo. Hw about that Grimmjow beat up Ichigo does that mean he should be above Harribel and Barragan and Stark as well? How about it took Kenpachi and Byakuya, both barely weaker than Ichigo, to defeat 2nd form Yammy does that mean 2nd form Yammy is stronger than Harribel because he was beaten by tougher opponents.

All of this is irrelevant and has nothing to do with my point, but let me just cut you off with that last absurd sentence.

First of all, it didn't take both of them to defeat his weak ass. They weren't even serious when fighting him because they were too focused on their rivalry than defeating him.

Second, show me a panel of Kenpachi and Byakuya struggling with this weak fatass. You getting the impression that just because some strong people decides to fight someone that they are automatically strong? I guess that dude that fought against Kanpachi in the Fullbring arc is strong too, right?

And lastly, that battle was cut off and neither one of them were injured at all from defeating him. Don't use that shit battle to prove your point, when you can't even refute my point.

Just because a character says something in a manga doesn't mean it's true especially when shown otherwise such as Killua saying he would kill Netero bac in the hunter exam arc or Obito saying he was Madara. It's called hype, sir and you got sucked into it hard.

Yes, just like Yammy hyping up his own abilities and claiming himself to be the strongest.

That's called hype sir, and you got sucked into it bad.

Also if you're done trying to derail the point of this thread how about you actually try and come up with some reasonable excuse that Aizen didn't know about the power in a weapon he made that lived in a world he knew everything about. That's right you can't so you try to flip this into some weird bashing thread saying I'm putting down Ulq, I'm not I'm putting down people like you who are overplacing him, he was accurately placed.

Then you didn't read Ulquiorra's battle with Ichigo and you're to ignorant to realize that Harribel pales in comparison. You are, in fact, putting down his abilities because any idiot that claims Harribel to be stronger than R2 Ulquiorra is not worthy of anyone's time who actually bother to look at the manga. Nevermind Starrk, the fact that I am even trying to debate Harribel to be inferior with you is your own ignorance, not mine.

Ans as I said before, you're a literal thinker, and can't think for yourself, and you take the rank of some list, because you don't have the sense to determine for yourself who is stronger.
Ulquiorra blitzes Harribel with a Lanza arrow. End of Discussion.

You have no feats, you have no leg to standon, all you have are your ingrained prejudices towards Ulq and your fanatisicm stopping you from seeing what it really is. Aizen knew about his powers and Kubo knew what powers he was giving Ulq and he was still ranked #4 time for crybabies like you to get over it.

Lol, cute kid.

I'm not going to waste my time on some lunatic who claims that Harribel is stronger than Ulquiorra. Until you prove to me how Harribel is killing or even touching Ulquiorra, just sit down and quit embarrassing yourself.