[Discussion] Can Ichibei defeat Yamamoto?

[I'm stupid real stupid]

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[Zealotic]

Yes .

 

[HENI]

no he cannot

 

[Forbidden Tale]

I don't think he can.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yes especially if were talking Bankai vs Bankai.

 

[Dannie]

Yeah.

 

[A v i]

Yamamoto fought and won against full powered Yhwach where as Ichibi got one shotted by Yhwach when he was totally revived/restored himself. This alone is more than enough to say that Ichibi is nowhere near Yamaji.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Yes especially if were talking Bankai vs Bankai.

Hm, I would like to see how would Ichibei's bankai past ZnT West.

Do you have some hypothesis?

 

[Dannie]

Yamamoto fought and won against full powered Yhwach where as Ichibi got one shotted by Yhwach when he was totally revived/restored himself. This alone is more than enough to say that Ichibi is nowhere near Yamaji.

ABC logic is stupid here, when you have individual abilities that can negate other abilities.

Ichibei cuts off Yamamoto's bankai until there's nothing left.

 

[ssjelf]

ABC logic is stupid here, when you have individual abilities that can negate other abilities.

Ichibei cuts off Yamamoto's bankai until there's nothing left.

Except that Ichibeis powers rely on hitting his opponent. Yama shikai gives him distance and a counter to the ink. Ichibei bankai doesnt work unless his opponent is hit with his shikai ability and Ichibeis base ability didnt hit YH's sword so it wont hit Yamas either. Yama bankai and ZnT West keep him from being touched at all. North one shot ichibei.

 

[HairyTesicles]

Yammamoto > Yhwach (ASSUMING THIS IS A RAW 1 V 1 AND YHWACH ISN'T ALLOWED TO STEAL YAMAJI'S BANKAI)

Yhwach > Ichibei

Ichibei > Yammamoto

Its a matter of rock paper scissors, its all about match up.

 

[ssjelf]

Yammamoto > Yhwach (ASSUMING THIS IS A RAW 1 V 1 AND YHWACH ISN'T ALLOWED TO STEAL YAMAJI'S BANKAI)

Yhwach > Ichibei

Ichibei > Yammamoto

Its a matter of rock paper scissors, its all about match up.

I think that Ichibei had a better match up to YH then he does Yama. His abilities arent suited to fight his fire.

 

[Ultimateone]

ichibe wins heres why. yamamoto's bankai west ability stops most physical attacks, such as sword swings, punches or the like. what it doesn't seem to do however, is negate energy attacks or things like that. think back to when fake juha/lyod shot an arrow at yama and he deflected it away with his sword. it didn't just erase against his west flame shield. taking that into account, he can be hit by ichibe's ink. if it gets on his sword, yama is done. unlike juha who could just restore his power, yama will basically lose his best abilities. even on the slightest of chances that the ink doesn't work, ichibe will use the mausoleum of skulls. ichibe wins on all accounts

 

[Forbidden Tale]

ABC logic is stupid here, when you have individual abilities that can negate other abilities.

ABC logic actually work here. When it comes to Bleach, it's reiatsu vs reiatsu.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

ichibe wins heres why. yamamoto's bankai west ability stops most physical attacks, such as sword swings, punches or the like. what it doesn't seem to do however, is negate energy attacks or things like that. think back to when fake juha/lyod shot an arrow at yama and he deflected it away with his sword. it didn't just erase against his west flame shield. taking that into account, he can be hit by ichibe's ink. if it gets on his sword, yama is done. unlike juha who could just restore his power, yama will basically lose his best abilities. even on the slightest of chances that the ink doesn't work, ichibe will use the mausoleum of skulls. ichibe wins on all accounts

That arrow was destroyed thanks to west so umm yea...if the ink gets on Yama how long wil it stay with west active?..it's gone be just like the arrow the moment the ink gets to Yama it will be destroyed.

 

[A v i]

ABC logic is stupid here, when you have individual abilities that can negate other abilities.

Ichibei cuts off Yamamoto's bankai until there's nothing left.

He beat a guy that can pretty much counter any ability and you think Ichibi can do jack here? The wank is real.Lol

 

[Dannie]

He beat a guy that can pretty much counter any ability and you think Ichibi can do jack here? The wank is real.Lol

Funny thing is that Yhwach had to use his real power just to beat Ichibei while Yhwach just trolled Yamamoto and crushed his skull into the earth. Mind you this battle is still going on, and Ichibei may have something else to show.

Yes, the wank is real when it comes to Yamamoto fapboys.

 

[A v i]

Funny thing is that Yhwach had to use his real power just to beat Ichibei while Yhwach just trolled Yamamoto and crushed his skull into the earth. Mind you this battle is still going on, and Ichibei may have something else to show.

Yes, the wank is real when it comes to Yamamoto fapboys.

I was talking about Yamaji at his peak not current one. Yes, he negged Yamaji? so what? It is not going to change the fact that Yamamoto defeated Yhwach's full power where as Ichibi got one shotted by full powered Yhwach. Hence, Ichibi is nowhere near Yamamoto's full power.

He just trolled Ichibi's bankai where as he never tried to face Yamamoto's bankai head on, which proves that he considers Yamamoto as a bigger threat than Ichibi.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Hm, I would like to see how would Ichibei's bankai past ZnT West.

Do you have some hypothesis?

Yamamoto flames burn alot but one thing they don't burn is the black on his clothes with that being said i don't see why they would burn Ichibei techs when they consume him in darkness similar to what he did to Ywach plus he can change/take away his Z name.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Yamamoto flames burn alot but one thing they don't burn is the black on his clothes with that being said i don't see why they would burn Ichibei techs when they consume him in darkness similar to what he did to Ywach plus he can change/take away his Z name.

Man, that's ability of his shikai. Ability of his bankai is to name things. You were referring to bankai vs bankai in your post.