Is Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode stronger than Hagoromo's Six Paths Mode?

[giostep]

Madara and Obito had more chakra than Naruto, but their mode was inferior. Chakra doesn't equal to power.

Um, Madara and Obito did not have more chakra then RSM Naruto. Only person that can be confirmed to have more chakra then RSM Naruto is Kaguya based on her feats. Madara nor Obito has done anything to suggest that they have more chakra.

OT: We dont have any feats for Hago.We know he and Hamura beat Kaguya but thats all really.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Because that's pure speculation. Hagoromo has that power, yes, but where is it shown that Hagoromo had a role in the moon's placement? Nowhere.

Well, Think outside the box. If we use "feats" then konohamaru can beat hagoromo since the sage has nothing....

 

[Zzz]

Um, Madara and Obito did not have more chakra then RSM Naruto. Only person that can be confirmed to have more chakra then RSM Naruto is Kaguya based on her feats. Madara nor Obito has done anything to suggest that they have more chakra.

OT: We dont have any feats for Hago.We know he and Hamura beat Kaguya but thats all really.

The argument was that the Juubi's chakra is the one that makes Hagoromo's Six Paths Mode stronger. However, Madara and Obito had the Juubi, which has tons of chakra, and yet their mode was inferior.
Madara should have more chakra than Naruto because of the Juubi, but yet his body is weaker. That's my point; chakra =/= strength.

 

[Zzz]

Well, Think outside the box. If we use "feats" then konohamaru can beat hagoromo since the sage has nothing....

Dude, I'm not denying that Hagoromo can do that. I'm just saying that his pushing the moon is a speculation, even though he can.

 

[Peace Maker]

Hey guys,

We all know that Naruto obtained the RSM using the chakra Hagoromo gave him and the power of each Tailed Beast. Thus, a form similar to the Ten-Tails Coffin Seal-mode was obtained, however, with access to each Beast's abilities individually as well as better reflexes and speed capabilities.

On the other hand, Hagoromo had his own massive chakra which was enhanced by the Ten-Tails'. What he lacks here is the actual ability to use each Tailed-Beast's powers, as they were divided later.

Which one is stronger and why? Give reasons.

narutos six paths isnt thaf strong and just lije kurana said sasuke is almost to the sage of the six paths level so you decide how you define it...

 

[Zzz]

narutos six paths isnt thaf strong and just lije kurana said sasuke is almost to the sage of the six paths level so you decide how you define it...

Kurama meant the ability to mix chakra. But that's not even the point of the thread.
By that logic, if Sasuke is as strong as Hagoromo, and Naruto is as strong as Sasuke, it means Naruto's RSM is twice as strong as Hagoromo's (meaning the Rinnegan makes up for it.).
Not necessarily true.

 

[NextGenNinja]

Naruto or sasuke wrecks him.

 

[Zzz]

Naruto or sasuke wrecks him.

We're talking about Six Paths Modes. Sasuke has none. -.-

 

[Zealotic]

Two in his eye sockets and one in his forehead.

bruh thats not a rinnegan on his forehead Lol

Why do people think the guy who gave sasuke and naruto god powers is suddenly weaker then them

 

[Zzz]

bruh thats not a rinnegan on his forehead Lol

Why do people think the guy who gave sasuke and naruto god powers is suddenly weaker then them

Their Sage Mode powers, bruh. Not the overall power.

 

[Bronze]

No, the Chakra of Bijuu were not involved to the Six Paths cloak; only Hagoromo's Yang Chakra is what created the Six Paths Senjutsu that blessed Naruto. If you're talking about Hagoromo without the Juubi, both cloaks are equal. If Hagoromo is a Jinchuuriki, his is superior due to the Juubi's overwhelming Chakra contributing unlimited boost to his cloak, which is already significantly boosted by Hagoromo's own Chakra.

 

[Torche]

bruh thats not a rinnegan on his forehead Lol

Why do people think the guy who gave sasuke and naruto god powers is suddenly weaker then them

He's not, it's just he has shit all battle experience. Lol

 

[NextGenNinja]

We're talking about Six Paths Modes. Sasuke has none. -.-

Whatever, Naruto is stronger. Chou bijuu RS is a death sentence for any Juubi jin.

 

[Peace Maker]

Kurama meant the ability to mix chakra. But that's not even the point of the thread.
By that logic, if Sasuke is as strong as Hagoromo, and Naruto is as strong as Sasuke, it means Naruto's RSM is twice as strong as Hagoromo's (meaning the Rinnegan makes up for it.).
Not necessarily true.

wtf read it again moron.

 

[Zzz]

No, the Chakra of Bijuu were not involved to the Six Paths cloak; only Hagoromo's Yang Chakra is what created the Six Paths Senjutsu that blessed Naruto. If you're talking about Hagoromo without the Juubi, both cloaks are equal. If Hagoromo is a Jinchuuriki, his is superior due to the Juubi's overwhelming Chakra contributing unlimited boost to his cloak.

It's been stated that Hagoromo's chakra is linked with the Bijuu's chakra to form RSM. By that logic, Naruto's > Hagoromo's pre-JJ, but after Hagoromo became the JJ, yeah... I don't know.

 

[Zzz]

wtf read it again moron.

That's all I got. Use grammar next time.

 

[Bronze]

It's been stated that Hagoromo's chakra is linked with the Bijuu's chakra to form RSM. By that logic, Naruto's > Hagoromo's pre-JJ, but after Hagoromo became the JJ, yeah... I don't know.

It was never stated in the manga nor databook. The cloak is called: Rikudou Senjutsu. Bold means Six Paths which refers to Hagoromo's nickname, which is basically Hagoromo himself. Underlined refers to Sage Mode which Hagoromo's Sage Mode. As far as I'm concerned, Bijuu are not Rikudou nor they have SM. Furthermore, if their Chakra is another portion forming RSM, then Naruto doesn't have always ask for their Chakra, when it's already activated with his cloak. [

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[Zzz]

It was never stated in the manga nor databook. The cloak is called: Rikudou Senjutsu. Bold means Six Paths which refers to Hagoromo's nickname, which is basically Hagoromo himself. Underlined refers to Sage Mode which Hagoromo's Sage Mode. As far as I'm concerned, Bijuu are not Rikudou nor they have SM. Furthermore, if their Chakra is another portion forming RSM, then Naruto doesn't have always ask for their Chakra, when it's already activated with his cloak. [

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There are two divisions of Rikudou Senjutsu (Sage CHAKRA):
-The Rikudou Sage Mode - Naruto's.
-The Coffin Seal - the Ten-Tails' Jinchuuriki.

Hagoromo's chakra is the chakra which links Naruto and all of the Bijuu, forming RSM through the combination and mixture of these two chakras. This means Naruto can ask for help anytime, as he is LINKED.
You cannot judge the cloak by the name.

 

[Bronze]

There are two divisions of Rikudou Senjutsu (Sage CHAKRA):
-The Rikudou Sage Mode - Naruto's.
-The Coffin Seal - the Ten-Tails' Jinchuuriki.

Hagoromo's chakra is the chakra which links Naruto and all of the Bijuu, forming RSM through the combination and mixture of these two chakras. This means Naruto can ask for help anytime, as he is LINKED.

And I'm asking you to bring manga scans for that ''link''. Naruto was always linked to the Bijuu's Chakra before he had met Hagoromo, and it was during when they gave him pieces of their Chakra. So, I'll repeat what I said: the cloak is called Rikudou Senjutsu. Rikudou is the Six Paths referring to Hagoromo. Senjutsu is Sage Mode, his SM.

Bijuu do not grant any of those.

 

[Zzz]

And I'm asking you to bring manga scans for that ''link''. Naruto was always linked to the Bijuu's Chakra before he had met Hagoromo, and it was during when they gave him pieces of their Chakra. So, I'll repeat what I said: the cloak is called Rikudou Senjutsu. Rikudou is the Six Paths referring to Hagoromo. Senjutsu is Sage Mode, his SM.

Bijuu do not grant any of those.

Before the power-up, Naruto only had access to the spiritual plane in order to talk to the Tailed Beasts. Only AFTER getting the power-up from the Sage was he able to use their powers. The link is present whenever he uses their chakra... against Madara, against Kaguya. Any scans of Naruto using their power before the power-up? No, because he couldn't.

Rikudou Senjutsu means Six Paths Sage Chakra, which is different from Rikudou Sennin Modo, which is Six Paths Sage Mode. It refers to the type of chakra, not the type of cloak.

Rikudou's chakra acted as a medium for Naruto to be able to use the Tailed-Beasts' power and also enhance his Sage Mode. C'mon, it's not that hard to understand.