My Legend of Korra and Naruto analyzation

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Lol, what if it wasn't open ended, but people are making it out to be open ended?

If Kishi had ended Naruto , at the point Naruto and Sasuke both laying their, and basically holding hands through blood... NaruSasu would have ran wild on them being gay (while ignoring the whole theme of the characters.).

Korra's theme had always been to represent an independent woman. From what I saw, it was a duplicate of Naruto and Sasuke.

Kishi originally wanted to do that. But instead removed their arms to be gory.

Naruto and sasuke ended the same way

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Two friends practically holding hands.
 
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Kishi originally wanted to do that. But instead removed their arms to be gory.

Yea, and if he had done the literally shaking hands.. the western "mainstream" mindset goes "OHHH F*CKKK THEY HELLLAA GAAY".

Avatar = Eastern based show.

^^^ Always surprises me when people forget that these shows are based on eastern cultures, and can't be judged through the western mindset (which is also slowly turning into the eastern mindset).

Thank you for not taking my post the wrong way XD

Kishi originally wanted to do that. But instead removed their arms to be gory.

Naruto and sasuke ended the same way

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Two friends practically holding hands.

yesss thank you!!!
 

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Why do they have to be by to take a vacation?
Like seriously. It was left open ended 4 a reason.

seriously?
look at your siggy Lol

the way it is depicted will obviously make people think bisexuality or homosexuality can happen one morning, like a bad hair day and leave tomorrow so you can be hetero again no problem because it's just a choice!!!

also i don't really appreciate the fact that both females dated the same male before starting their relationship, it really left a bitter taste like this man couldn't satisfied them and that's why they turned lesbians but you can believe they were always bisexuals if you don't see why it's insulting for everybody.

this is just totally wrong U_U
 

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Yea, and if he had done the literally shaking hands.. the western "mainstream" mindset goes "OHHH F*CKKK THEY HELLLAA GAAY".
that's some wild assumptions.

Avatar = Eastern based show.
influenced yes but it lacks a lot of the typical shonen tropes.(hence why it's never called anime)

^^^ Always surprises me when people forget that these shows are based on eastern cultures, and can't be judged through the western mindset
again this is a pretty big assumption. You're using broad terms here. A legitimate fan of anything would take the source material into consideration.
(which is also slowly turning into the eastern mindset)
If you feel that way....

Thank you for not taking my post the wrong way XD



yesss thank you!!!


I honestly don't see what the problem is. If they're just friends taking a trip? Good 4 them. After losing a parent, almost losing a company, getting shamed left and right, and poisoned you'd expect it.

If their gay 4 each other? Y not. Asami is the only one she confides in and Asami is the only one willing to drop everything in korra's time of need. It would be a great start.
 

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seriously?
look at your siggy Lol

the way it is depicted will obviously make people think bisexuality or homosexuality can happen one morning, like a bad hair day and leave tomorrow so you can be hetero again no problem because it's just a choice!!!

also i don't really appreciate the fact that both females dated the same male before starting their relationship, it really left a bitter taste like this man couldn't satisfied them and that's why they turned lesbians but you can believe they were always bisexuals if you don't see why it's insulting for everybody.

this is just totally wrong U_U

Attacks my sig instead of seeing the ending 4 what it is.

What? One morning? Korra's hasn't been in a relationship 4 roughly 4 years. And over the course of those years she spent it confiding in asami her first "girlfriend" bar naga. It's clearly not some"kissed a girl and I like it" type situation.

That's mako's damage. You'd have that same bad taste in ya mouth if korra hooked up with bolin.
 

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that's some wild assumptions.

influenced yes but it lacks a lot of the typical shonen tropes.(hence why it's never called anime)

again this is a pretty big assumption. You're using broad terms here. A legitimate fan of anything would take the source material into consideration.
If you feel that way....




I honestly don't see what the problem is. If they're just friends taking a trip? Good 4 them. After losing a parent, almost losing a company, getting shamed left and right, and poisoned you'd expect it.

If their gay 4 each other? Y not. Asami is the only one she confides in and Asami is the only one willing to drop everything in korra's time of need. It would be a great start.
Oh i have no problem with the gay or straight. My problem is a relationship. Fans want make this into "canon".. while it not being canon. Neither it being implied to be canon. For it to be implied canon, there needs to be a previous implication of their romance. Which never happened. Hence, the implied "canon", is nothing but non-existent, and media hype.

No, it wasn't considered an anime, because it was supported by Americans. And the original show was an american cartoon. Thats basically the major reason.

Avatar the last air bender = mostly eastern influenced, with little bit of western. << Not an assumption, but an observation.

Legend of korra = modern eastern or you can say "western" , with eastern morals put in there... << Not an assumption, but an obervastion.

The idea of an "avatar" is based on an eastern belief in a "avatar", that goes back into hinduism. So i'm not making assumptions, simply stating the observations.
 
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You compared Sakura with Korra in your OP. ( lead with a supporting MC)



OP compared Korra with Sakura and you tried to suggest it's the same thing by pointing that Kishi called her one of main characters.

Does it make any difference in my initial post?

NO. And yet you keep making so many posts about an irrelevant fact without any context then claim I put you in the spot. I think you are seeking attention and trying to be a troll to find something to claim you rustled jimmies like the trend at NB and so far that hasn't changed. Come to the point or quit it. We are moving in a circle you know.



Yea, we all agree on not being that many well developed females in Naruto unless they are presented as a mother or old motherly hokage.

But you compared Korra with Sakura in your OP.

Have you considered the fact that writer developed the characters which he wanted for his story? BTW Hinata is more like Katara here. Avatar series is an American project not a manga. It's not following the same trends in manga. You are trying to enforce that suggestive lesbian ending for Korra would work for something like Naruto and somehow make it look cool or what? But in Japan it would not be called just shonnen anymore but classed as yaoi manga.

I wasn't suggesting the so say lesbian ending. I mentioned Varrick and Zhu Li relationship in my main point.Also how is Hinata anything like Katara?
 
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I wasn't suggesting the so say lesbian ending. I mentioned Varrick and Zhu Li relationship in my main point.

@Bold, BEST PART OF THE FINALE!!!!!!!! XD

Besides, Toph , Zhu li was my fav character in Book4!!! she put Varrik in his place =D
 

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Oh i have no problem with the gay or straight. My problem is a relationship. Fans want make this into "canon".. while it not being canon. Neither it being implied to be canon.
oh alrighty then.

No, it wasn't considered an anime, because it was supported by Americans. And the original show was an american cartoon. Thats basically the major reason.
it wasn't considered(and still isn't) because it's apparently "made" in America. When in fact the studio that does it is korean. Same goes for rwby(actually made it texas), boondocks, etc.

Avatar the last air bender = mostly eastern influenced, with little bit of western. << Not an assumption, but an observation.
it's influenced by the mythology and fighting styles. That's about it tho. The tipacal shonen tropes aren't really there.

Legend of korra = modern eastern or you can say "western" , with eastern morals put in there... << Not an assumption, but an obervastion.
it's from all over. Republic City is based off shanghai, new York and San Francisco. It deals with themes such as democracy(western), monarchy (European), fascism(kuvira), monopolies (Varrick/Rocafella.), etc etc etc. It's not just 1. Hence why I say it's influenced.

The idea of an "avatar" is based on an eastern belief in a "avatar", that goes back into hinduism. So i'm not making assumptions, simply stating the observations.
but hinduism isn't the only belief brought up in the show. Hence why I love it so much.
Secularism(unalaq/aang) vs industrialization(varrick/toph)
Anarchy(red lotus) vs dictatorship(kuvira) vs monarchy(earth king/queen's)

U can't say all of that is "eastern"
 

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Attacks my sig instead of seeing the ending 4 what it is.

What? One morning? Korra's hasn't been in a relationship 4 roughly 4 years. And over the course of those years she spent it confiding in asami her first "girlfriend" bar naga. It's clearly not some"kissed a girl and I like it" type situation.

That's mako's damage. You'd have that same bad taste in ya mouth if korra hooked up with bolin.

so why are people so surprised about both girls being bisexual and ending together if it was heavily implied for 2 years that they never were hetero to begin with?

remember i don't know much about the show, i just don't like the blurry explanation because it's clearly not how it happen irl, you are a guy maybe you simply don't understand why i'm saying that...

idk who is Bolin sorry but if it's the same crap like a male dating 2 females whom magically ended together, it smells bad too :)
 

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so why are people so surprised about both girls being bisexual and ending together if it was heavily implied for 2 years that they never were hetero to begin with?

remember i don't know much about the show, i just don't like the blurry explanation because it's clearly not how it happen irl, you are a guy maybe you simply don't understand why i'm saying that...

idk who is Bolin sorry but if it's the same crap like a male dating 2 females whom magically ended together, it smells bad too :)

It wasn't heavily implied, it was hinted at. They weren't in your face about it. I don't get it. It's like you're failing to realize it goes both ways. Whether she's beginning to shift towards homosexuality or bysexuality is up to the viewer.

Before I continue who is korra's closest friend bar naga?
 

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oh alrighty then.

it wasn't considered(and still isn't) because it's apparently "made" in America. When in fact the studio that does it is korean. Same goes for rwby(actually made it texas), boondocks, etc.

it's influenced by the mythology and fighting styles. That's about it tho. The tipacal shonen tropes aren't really there.

it's from all over. Republic City is based off shanghai, new York and San Francisco. It deals with themes such as democracy(western), monarchy (European), fascism(kuvira), monopolies (Varrick/Rocafella.), etc etc etc. It's not just 1. Hence why I say it's influenced.

but hinduism isn't the only belief brought up in the show. Hence why I love it so much.
Secularism(unalaq/aang) vs industrialization(varrick/toph)
Anarchy(red lotus) vs dictatorship(kuvira) vs monarchy(earth king/queen's)

U can't say all of that is "eastern"

I never said it was a shonen. o-o. I said it was eastern influenced, I wasn't talking about influenced by manga, I was talking about tradition and so on.

Actually, republic city is mostly based on Hong Kong, while having the diversity vibe of shangai/new york and etc.

"industrialization".. east has gone through it also
dictatorship/monarchy/anarchy.. so on alot of eastern ideas.

I never said all of that is eastern, i said it is based on eastern ideals. Meaning the core of the show is the east.
 

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Avatar>Naruto

No doubt about that.

Zuko still negs everyone in development and character though. Best character in the series.
 

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Avatar>Naruto

No doubt about that.

Zuko still negs everyone in development and character though. Best character in the series.

No Avatar series is better than Naruto....... you are joking yourself on that.
 

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It wasn't heavily implied, it was hinted at. They weren't in your face about it. I don't get it. It's like you're failing to realize it goes both ways. Whether she's beginning to shift towards homosexuality or bysexuality is up to the viewer.

Before I continue who is korra's closest friend bar naga?

you clearly don't understand but thx for the infos, now i'm pretty sure it's just some commercial bs using non hetero as a trend again.
 

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I never said it was a shonen. o-o. I said it was eastern influenced, I wasn't talking about influenced by manga, I was talking about tradition and so on.

Actually, republic city is mostly based on Hong Kong, while having the diversity vibe of shangai/new york and etc.

"industrialization".. east has gone through it also
dictatorship/monarchy/anarchy.. so on alot of eastern ideas.

I never said all of that is eastern, i said it is based on eastern ideals. Meaning the core of the show is the east.

Republic City is based on NY central park(korra park) aang's statue (statue of liberty) city hall (ny city hall) the bridge (golden gate),dragon flat district(Shanghai) etc etc just to name a few.

All 1st and 2nd world countries went through industrialization after a certain time period( it was really the only way to go) but it's mostly associated with the us. An example would be the first car to be made on a manufacturing line the model 1. Or the avatar version of it being the satomobile.

Monarchies is heavily associated with European (namely British) regimes.
Democracy is associated with Americans
Dictatorship is Russia I think
Anarchy. .. well...
u get the point. It's all over.
 
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you clearly don't understand but thx for the infos, now i'm pretty sure it's just some commercial bs using non hetero as a trend again.

You're trying to force an agenda that's left open for discussion. That's the only thing that's clear.

If you feel they're together that's good. The proof is there.

If you feel that they're just friends. Fine there's proof of that. Why you're pushing it heavily to one side just to get upset is beyond me.
 

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Ok I did not read the whole thing. Because I never watched this series. All I know is that any female character can do better than Sakura. So Op thanks for adding another one to the list.
 

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Republic City is based on NY central park(korra park) aang's statue (statue of liberty) city hall (ny city hall) the bridge (golden gate),dragon flat district(Shanghai) etc etc just to name a few.

All 1st and 2nd world countries went through industrialization after a certain time period( it was really the only way to go) but it's mostly associated with the us. An example would be the first car to be made on a manufacturing line the model 1. Or the avatar version of it being the satomobile.

Monarchies is heavily associated with European (namely British) regimes.
Democracy is associated with Americans
Dictatorship is Russia I think
Anarchy. .. well...
u get the point. It's all over.
"Self-ran city" aka HongKong. And thats what I said, its basically hongkong, with the vibe fo new york and etc.

See everything you said is good.. but irrelevant to the core principles based on the eastern philosophy. =l

"monarchy".. China/Japan all have been ruled by emperors.. Especially China.. Japan had an emperor, aka the earth queen. Gets killed, and dictatorship by military, and bam comes in democracy << pretty much based on japan.

"dictatorship"... uh Eastern culture is filled with dictatorship. The word "dictatorship" might be western.. the idea however, is not solely-western.


Oh I understand what you are saying. But I was only trying to say, that just like how people judge NARUTO (not talking about all shonen manga) by western standards, they judge AVATAR by western standards also, however their core principles are eastern based.
 

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I wasn't suggesting the so say lesbian ending. I mentioned Varrick and Zhu Li relationship in my main point.Also how is Hinata anything like Katara?

The other person I quoted called Sakura as Katara. That was a reply to that part.

Korra,Korra started off as an immature,hot-headed teen but as the show progressed she became more mature and more level headed. She was a pretty strong female and display independence.


You still didn't tell why you compared Korra to Sakura when Sakura is not main lead not Avatar or TLoK series follows shonnen tropes. Kishi developed the characters according to need of his story. TLoK developed them according to their own leads.

Why should you even be mixing the two and comparing like that? Why not discuss the different series on their own merits and demerits instead of reading something else and wanting it to be handled exactly like another story? So you think apples should be the same as oranges?

Ok I did not read the whole thing. Because I never watched this series. All I know is that any female character can do better than Sakura. So Op thanks for adding another one to the list.

I cannot decide if this post should be classed as petty or ignorant or maybe make it simple and call it both.
 
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