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Have you read like, 3 chapters of this series? You think Oda actually has limits when it comes to personalities? Okay buddy.
[Discussion] Who will be the next Strawhat?
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You think she doesn't? Okay buddy. Show me one other fictional female character with the exact same personality as Baby 5.
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Neither Robin nor Sugar's pasts were revealed before later in the series, assuming Sugar's will be revealed eventually. Both has had some kind of trauma at some point in the series. Has no connection or bond to the Strawhats, except for some interraction with Luffy. If I dig deeper, I could probably find more. They both used fur coats during their fights with the Strawhats, but even considering that as a parallel would only make me seem desperate. Seriously, though, what connection does Viola have to Robin, that she doesn't already have with Vivi? Unlike Sugar, she wasn't crucial to Doflamingo's plans, at all.
They're not in the same boat, since Sugar seems to have joined years later than the rest of them. My point is that, if she was just like the rest of the members, loyal to Doflamingo and all, why would Oda even make her join later? There's obviously more to it than that.
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Nobody has the exact same personality. THere are general stereotypes which fit these characters
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I can stomach Viola joining though I still wanted to keep guessing and her powers make me wonder that if she joins wont she get downplayed a bit so she wont b a heavy spoiler(though when u concider that there is like island wide CoO n like 99%crrct 5hours into the future CoO she isn't that much a spoiler) but for a look out they wld b dope n they cld b mucho helpful in finding Raftel when we get to that.
For me she does, resemble Robin a tad when it comes to looks n that's why I was a bit skeptical about her(well pervert side remembered twin magic n that was that).
I also think she parallels Robin much more than anyone in DR(sorry @Skylar) n because she is a dancer n we know our captain is an aho n a sucker for that sort of thing she has a much grander shot that most in joining. She unlike her other family members might b at odds with the DR pple coz she did join Doffy so her leaving then the pple later shown to understand her is a bit Oda style in a Nami-ish manner.
My choice was Momo as a Shanks to Luffy's Roger, or let's keep guessing but I can live with Viola(pervert say what) "What".
For me she does, resemble Robin a tad when it comes to looks n that's why I was a bit skeptical about her(well pervert side remembered twin magic n that was that).
I also think she parallels Robin much more than anyone in DR(sorry @Skylar) n because she is a dancer n we know our captain is an aho n a sucker for that sort of thing she has a much grander shot that most in joining. She unlike her other family members might b at odds with the DR pple coz she did join Doffy so her leaving then the pple later shown to understand her is a bit Oda style in a Nami-ish manner.
My choice was Momo as a Shanks to Luffy's Roger, or let's keep guessing but I can live with Viola(pervert say what) "What".
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You're reaching extremely hard. Nami had trauma, she's worn a fur coat, she's been antagonistic towards the Strawhats, I suppose she's also a parallel to Robin? If you're gonna draw parallels between them, you're gonna have to pick traits that can't be so easily applied to practically 60% of the characters.
They are in the same boat. Their lives before Doffy also aren't revealed yet, so Sugar isn't special for that whatsoever.
What's with the, we need another girl member attitude? Woman pirates are a rare deal, the fact that luffy has three (I consider Vivi a strawhat) on his crew in itself if a big deal.
Apart from the Kuja pirates, I don't see a lot of crews having two or more woman pirates.
BB pirates - Catarina devon
WB pirates - None
Red Hair Pirates - None
Roger Pirates - None yet
Heart Pirates - None yet
Kid pirates - Don't think they have one.
Basically 3 members are more than enough in a crew of 11 >_>
Apart from the Kuja pirates, I don't see a lot of crews having two or more woman pirates.
BB pirates - Catarina devon
WB pirates - None
Red Hair Pirates - None
Roger Pirates - None yet
Heart Pirates - None yet
Kid pirates - Don't think they have one.
Basically 3 members are more than enough in a crew of 11 >_>
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Why do you keep ignoring the resemblances between Viola and Vivi? Both royals, both working under their enemies, and both being close to their fathers. You keep asking me to find connections, which I find a tad funny, 'cause the arc is not even over yet. Everything that turned Robin's character upside-down, happened in the last chapters of the arc. Something similar could easily happen again. Anyway, why don't you finally answer the question from my previous post and tell me: what connections does Viola have with Robin, that she doesn't already share with Vivi?
Robin did not in any way help the Strawhats, and if you think she did, then it certainly wasn't to stop Crocodile. It was out of curiosity, because of the initial 'D' in Luffy's name. Viola were in no way crucial to Doffy's plans, and, in the end, you try to overrate her position in the Donquixote family, but she was just a simple spy, with a convenient power. Nothing more. Even her betrayal was under completely different circumstances. The relationship between Robin and Crocodile was pure business, and there is simply no evidence that Crocodile mistreated or blackmailed her. He just kept his part of the deal, and she did hers, but, at the end of the day, she didn't want to give away Pluton's location. Their deal also supports my theory about Sugar's deal with Doflamingo.
They're not in the same boat, because she joined later on. It's the same with Viola as well, and just like her, there could be something more to her joining the Donquixote family. I'm not saying this means she'll join the Strawhats, but I still think it means there's more to her past with Doflamingo.
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What does it matter than she has connections with Vivi? That's not what I'm talking about whatsoever. Does she have connections with Vivi, certainly, but I don't see the relevance to this discussion whatsoever. Her connections to Vivi do not discredit her connections to Robin. Even if we wanted to change the parallel to being a parallel to Vivi, that still puts her ahead of Sugar in becoming a member as Vivi is considered an honorary member by the original Strawhats.
Saving their captain's life wasn't crucial to the Strawhats? Okay, if you say so.
Yes, there's more to Sugar's past with Doffy, but there's also more to Doffy's past with Machvise, Gladius, Trebol, Pica, Diamante and the rest of the crew. They are in the same boat because Sugar's past with Doffy hasn't been revealed, and the others' past hasn't been revealed. I really don't see how this is a hard concept to grasp.
Sugar's past=not revealed
Their past=not revealed
Unless not revealed =/=not revealed, they are in the same boat.
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We're talking about the parallels between Dressrosa and Alabasta, or at least I am. Viola and Sugar are the only ones who actually fit as parallels to Alabasta's Robin, and if we've agreed that Viola is more fit to be Vivi, then Sugar is the only one left who could possibly be Robin's parallel. Why would Viola still be more likely to join, more than a character who's the parallel of a current Strawhat? It doesn't make sense to me.
That is not what I meant. Unlike Viola, Robin didn't help the Strawhats 'cause she wanted to defeat the antagonist of the arc, Crocodile in this case. Her reason to save Luffy was of pure curiousity, nothing more.
It's not a hard concept to grasp, you just don't see the bigger picture here. We've seen nothing of her and her past, while we've seen what we need of the other members of Doflamingo's crew, except for maybe Trebol and Vergo. I don't expect Machvise's and Gladius' pasts to be the exact same, but it's obvious that there's nothing more to it than loyalty, or something else as simple as that. While, in Sugar's case, if her past with Doflamingo was just the same as everyone else's, Oda would've put her on that dinner table with the rest of the members, in Law's past.
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Viola can be a parallel to both of them. It doesn't have to be one or the other.
It's still saving Luffy, still a parallel.
And we've seen nothing of the past of Machvise, Gladius, Pica, etc. It doesn't matter if you don't think their pasts will be revealed or not or that we've seen everything we needed to see, they're still the same as Sugar. When you respond to this, do me a favor and respond to this bolded part only when it comes to this part of my post: Do they, or do they not, have their past before joining the crew revealed? Just answer this for now and let's take this slowly.
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No, her past before the Donquixote pirates haven't been revealed yet, but that's far from my point. Go on.
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Then the fact that her past and how she got into graces with Doffy hasn't been revealed is not special or unique enough to be able to draw your conclusion that something about her will be revealed that will make it reasonable to say she'll join the crew.
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Then that's just how you see it. For Oda to make her join a lot later than the rest of the members is special in itself.
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Yes, which has been my point all along. There was a reason for Viola joining later than the rest, and so I think the same applies to Sugar.