Naruto, Sakura and Sasuke got what they wanted in the end.

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I LOVE hinata, so please don't take this the wrong way, but Hinata is just the same as Sakura in this aspect. Her only goal was Naruto.

The fourth sensible Hinata fan I encountered on this base
 

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when you compare the boys goals and her goal, you understand that something is clearly wrong about this character...

all the other female rookies had better ambitions in life than just winning a famous joystick to play all night long U_U
That's pretty ironic coming from a Hinata fan.
Sorry mate but Sakura had ambitions to become stronger that's why she surpassed Hinata and most rookies she wanted Team 7 just the way they were before.her duty was to save Sasuke from the darkness.She cared for naruto more times than I can imagine yet you still pick on her.
 

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1.Your chakra has nothing to do with cell, why can't you comprehend that chakra, finjutsu & energy aren't physical meaning the have nothing to do with the material world. Provide me scans that prove t hat chakra & energy have a genetic code.

2. You've constantly said that child Tsunades strength was greater the Sakura's and I didn't sent tha What I've consistently said that Sakura was overall stronger then Tsunade when she was her age.

3. Tsunade didn't reach the pinnacle of chakra control, preform romte healing through katsuyu or even regenerate at Sakura's age. You can't deny that, right? Did Tsunade from the seal at the age of 17? Could she regenerate? Answer those questions and if you say Tsunade could do all of those things at the age of 17 provide a scan.


3. You then changed your argument by saying Tsunades chakra control was greater then Sakura's.. You also said that Tsunade could send chakra to her fist at a younger age then Sakura. I then provided you with 2 manga scans that demonstrated Sakura having the exact feat you say Tsunade had at a young age and Kakashi praising her c ontrol while also saying that many ninjas couldn't do that.

4. Sakuras chakra control = Tsunades.. Name 1 thing that Tsunade can do that Sakura can't? What makes her chakra control better then Sakura's, is it a particular feat or did anyone say it in the manga? Aagain did Tsunade have her seal at 17? Did she reach the "pinnacle" of chakra control at 17?

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say wut???

Chakra (チャクラ, chakura) is essential to even the most basic technique; it is the moulding of the physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī; English TV "Mental Energy") gained from the mind.


Once moulded, it can be channelled through the chakra pathway system, which is to chakra as the circulatory system is to blood, to any of the 361 tenketsu in the body.

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Through various methods, the most common of which is hand seals, the chakra can then be controlled and manipulated to create an effect that would not be possible otherwise, such as walking on water, exhaling fire or creating illusions.

stop it now, you are ridiculous!!!!


in Naruto, chakra is the equivalent of chi or ki in asian ancestral spiritual belief, chi come from the ether (the 5th element, the most powerful one where all life come from and where all other elements reunites) and every living being has chi aka life force or simply LIFE.

in Naruto, the chakra pathway system is the equivalent of the nadis system again from the ancestral asian spiritual belief, life energy move through it and you can control it by meditation, yoga etc

this is what the byakugan sees btw in case you didn't understood it...


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in Naruto, the hand seals were inspired by the mudras aka kuji-in in Japan and China (meaning the nine syllabes) again from the ancestral spiritual teaching from Asia!!!

from Naruto =>
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to the real teachings =>
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in Naruto, the tenketsu (Literally meaning "Pressure points" are simply nodes from which chakra can be released) were inspired by the 7 principal chakras and of course, the important nodes of the nadis pathwaytoo!!!

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and finally because this one is freaking glorious, the opening of the gates of Gai and Rock Lee is simply the Naruto version of the kundalini awakening!!!

each gate is a chakra, to awake the kundalini you have to open each 7 chakras one by one just exactly like this technique and once it's done, you will reached immortality aka kundalini the last 8 step :cool:

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say wut???

Chakra (チャクラ, chakura) is essential to even the most basic technique; it is the moulding of the physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) present in every cell of the body and the spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī; English TV "Mental Energy") gained from the mind.


Once moulded, it can be channelled through the chakra pathway system, which is to chakra as the circulatory system is to blood, to any of the 361 tenketsu in the body.

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Through various methods, the most common of which is hand seals, the chakra can then be controlled and manipulated to create an effect that would not be possible otherwise, such as walking on water, exhaling fire or creating illusions.

stop it now, you are ridiculous!!!!


in Naruto, chakra is the equivalent of chi or ki in asian ancestral spiritual belief, chi come from the ether (the 5th element, the most powerful one where all life come from and where all other elements reunites) and every living being has chi aka life force or simply LIFE.

in Naruto, the chakra pathway system is the equivalent of the nadis system again from the ancestral asian spiritual belief, life energy move through it and you can control it by meditation, yoga etc

this is what the byakugan sees btw in case you didn't understood it...


You must be registered for see images
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in Naruto, the hand seals were inspired by the mudras aka kuji-in in Japan and China (meaning the nine syllabes) again from the ancestral spiritual teaching from Asia!!!

from Naruto =>
You must be registered for see images

to the real teachings =>
You must be registered for see images

You must be registered for see images

in Naruto, the tenketsu (Literally meaning "Pressure points" are simply nodes from which chakra can be released) were inspired by the 7 principal chakras and of course, the important nodes of the nadis pathwaytoo!!!

from Naruto =>
You must be registered for see images


to reality =>
You must be registered for see images


and finally because this one is freaking glorious, the opening of the gates of Gai and Rock Lee is simply the Naruto version of the kundalini awakening!!!

each gate is a chakra, to awake the kundalini you have to open each 7 chakras one by one just exactly like this technique and once it's done, you will reached immortality aka kundalini the last 8 step :cool:

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Nice input but all that supports my argument. Chakra isn't something you can grab and put into your purse it isn't material nor is it a bodily function. You've strengthened my argument so thank you.
 

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Nice input but all that supports my argument. Chakra isn't something you can grab and put into your purse it isn't material nor is it a bodily function. You've strengthened my argument so thank you.

holy cow...

are water/blood/lymph/air for ex material or not?
can you grab them or not?


how can someone die by losing all his/her chakra or be saved by absorbing another person chakra, if it's not an essential body function and not a part of their body like blood or lymph?

i will repeat again:

Chakra is created when two other forms of energy, known collectively as one's stamina, are moulded together.

Physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) is collected from each and every one of the body's cells and can be increased through training, stimulants, and exercise.

Spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī) is derived from the mind's consciousness and can be increased through studying, meditation, and experience.

just in case you don't understand some words you and i are using:

material
ma·te·ri·al (mə-tir′ē-əl)
n.
1. The substance or substances out of which a thing is or can be made.
2. Something, such as an idea or information, that is to be refined and made or incorporated into a finished effort: material for a comedy.
3. materials Tools or apparatus for the performance of a given task: writing materials.
4. Yard goods or cloth.
5. A person who is qualified or suited for a position or activity

immaterial
im•ma•te•ri•al (ˌɪm əˈtɪər i əl)

adj.
1. of no essential consequence; unimportant.
2. not material; incorporeal; spiritual.

energy
en•er•gy (ˈɛn ər dʒi)

n., pl. -gies.
1. the capacity for vigorous activity; available power.
2. a feeling of having an adequate or abundant amount of such power.
3. Often energies. an exertion of such power; effort: threw her energies into the job.
4. the habit of vigorous activity; vigor.
5. the ability to act, lead others, or effect things forcefully.
6. forcefulness of expression.
7. Physics. the capacity to do work. Symbol: E
8. a source of usable power, as fossil fuel or electricity.



if chakra is not material and not part of the body, just like blood or lymph, explain Gaara's death and resurrection.
explain why you can see the chakra pathway with the byakugan just like you can see the blood or lymph system into someone else body.
explain how medic ninjas can heal people.
explain how Tsunade ying seal works.
explain how chakra weapons and armors exist.
 

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It's childish, the OP created a result thread then some persona came in and started the hate chain.
For real, you sure do feed on people's reactions.
 

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That's pretty ironic coming from a Hinata fan.
Sorry mate but Sakura had ambitions to become stronger that's why she surpassed Hinata and most rookies she wanted Team 7 just the way they were before.her duty was to save Sasuke from the darkness.She cared for naruto more times than I can imagine yet you still pick on her.

LOL, read Part I Neji VS Hinata fight where Hinata reveals that she wanted to become stronger too. Also, she became only stronger than Shikamaru, Choji and others in chapter 632, where Sasuke appeared and Sakura suddenly awakened the Byakugo without any foreshadowings or hints before. Until that even losers like Omoi could solo her, and while Kakashi needed to save her ass from the Juubi's rampage in chapter 614 Hinata saved Naruto's life with a Hakke Kusho some pages before "that". And before "yeah, but Hinata was almost killed by White Zetsus", remember, Sakura needed to be saved again from White Zetsus. And both Sakura and Hinata defeated 1 White Zetsu (Sakura in chapter 540, Hinata in chapter 526 and she also saved Neji's life). And this is coming from someone who is a closet Sakura fan.

And no, Sakura wanted to save Sasuke becase she loves him. Link the page where somebody ordered her to bring Sasuke back. Can't? Of course, because Sakura wanted to save Sasuke because she loves him. Also, Sakura punched into the face with full strength anyone, who badmouthed about Sasuke (see Sai, Karui + Omoi ect). So no, Sakura never cared more about Naruto than Sasuke, infact, it was Sasuke why Sakura rejected that good-looking Stone Ninja in chapter 539+540.
 

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It's childish, the OP created a result thread then some persona came in and started the hate chain.
For real, you sure do feed on people's reactions.

You just described the entirety of Narutobase, no matter what thread it is there's always some asshat that is going to say "My character is better than yours!" which results in it being turned into a vs thread.
 

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You just described the entirety of Narutobase, no matter what thread it is there's always some asshat that is going to say "My character is better than yours!" which results in it being turned into a vs thread.

You should add Kakashi into the mix. The War arc was basically his.
 

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Well Kishi never gave her a background because she was not popular. But even if he did I don't see how she would tie into this story?

Dude I will give you some basic fanfics materials:

She a lost uzumaki members whose great-grandfathers were from Uzumaki clan;
Haruno clan is related to Uzumaki;
Haruno clan was a dope clan with SS techniques
She is a princess
She's a senju
She is somehow related to Kaguya (if she turn out to have pink hair)
Her clan came from another dimension
Lost Sakurakagure, Sakura no sato
etc
 

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Dude I will give you some basic fanfics materials:

She a lost uzumaki members whose great-grandfathers were from Uzumaki clan;
Haruno clan is related to Uzumaki;
Haruno clan was a dope clan with SS techniques
She is a princess
She's a senju
She is somehow related to Kaguya (if she turn out to have pink hair)
Her clan came from another dimension
Lost Sakurakagure, Sakura no sato
etc

Interesting fanfic. But I made a thread once making her related to the Uchiha. Since she is a genjutsu type etc.
 

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holy cow...

are water/blood/lymph/air for ex material or not?
can you grab them or not?


how can someone die by losing all his/her chakra or be saved by absorbing another person chakra, if it's not an essential body function and not a part of their body like blood or lymph?

i will repeat again:

Chakra is created when two other forms of energy, known collectively as one's stamina, are moulded together.

Physical energy (身体エネルギー, shintai enerugī) is collected from each and every one of the body's cells and can be increased through training, stimulants, and exercise.

Spiritual energy (精神エネルギー, seishin enerugī) is derived from the mind's consciousness and can be increased through studying, meditation, and experience.

just in case you don't understand some words you and i are using:

material
ma·te·ri·al (mə-tir′ē-əl)
n.
1. The substance or substances out of which a thing is or can be made.
2. Something, such as an idea or information, that is to be refined and made or incorporated into a finished effort: material for a comedy.
3. materials Tools or apparatus for the performance of a given task: writing materials.
4. Yard goods or cloth.
5. A person who is qualified or suited for a position or activity

immaterial
im•ma•te•ri•al (ˌɪm əˈtɪər i əl)

adj.
1. of no essential consequence; unimportant.
2. not material; incorporeal; spiritual.

energy
en•er•gy (ˈɛn ər dʒi)

n., pl. -gies.
1. the capacity for vigorous activity; available power.
2. a feeling of having an adequate or abundant amount of such power.
3. Often energies. an exertion of such power; effort: threw her energies into the job.
4. the habit of vigorous activity; vigor.
5. the ability to act, lead others, or effect things forcefully.
6. forcefulness of expression.
7. Physics. the capacity to do work. Symbol: E
8. a source of usable power, as fossil fuel or electricity.



if chakra is not material and not part of the body, just like blood or lymph, explain Gaara's death and resurrection.
explain why you can see the chakra pathway with the byakugan just like you can see the blood or lymph system into someone else body.
explain how medic ninjas can heal people.
explain how Tsunade ying seal works.
explain how chakra weapons and armors exist.

I'm not disagreeing with you, what I'm saying is that Chakra is ambiguous. Meaning it can be and do many things and its not bound or subjectived to anything particular.

Sakura channeled her chakra into a distinctive location on her body creating the Yin seal.

A can convert his chakra into lightening release that manifests around his body.

Asuma channels his chakra into blades.

Hinata channels her chakra to her hands creating her lion fist.

Chakra is something that's bound to the material world..
 
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when you compare the boys goals and her goal, you understand that something is clearly wrong about this character...

all the other female rookies had better ambitions in life than just winning a famous joystick to play all night long U_U

The thing is, that's not really true. Almost all of the female characters in Naruto have primary motivations that ultimately go back to being in love with a male character. It's much less of a problem with Sakura as a character and more of a problem with Kishimoto as a writer, because most of his female characters suck and are one-dimensional like that.
 

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Hinata wanted to be a strong and kind ninja and to be with Naruto
 

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In the beginning yeah, Sakura wanted just to be with Sasuke, but as time went on she also developed the goal of wanting to support her team. To not want to be protected
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And in the end she was. She saved Sasuke. And even helped put down Kaguya
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Sakura has always loved Sasuke, but there is more to her character than that
The thing is though, Sakura never accomplished this goal, even in the war, she still made dumb decision's and still had to get saved and mostly all of her fights in shippuden and she barely had like any fights at all , its like kishimoto forgets about her character development and just throws out anything
 

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If this was Game of Thrones

Sasuke would have been killed by Haku having achieved nothing of significance, his dream of reviving and avenging the clan remaining a mere 12 year old's dream.
Naruto would have been assassinated at his Hokage coronation
And Sakura…. well I got nothing
 
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