lol @ all people arguing about minardo losing his tags when nagato uses CST
minardo is tobirama level sensor who sense nardo from countries away
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minardo was the first one to reach the battlefield with shunshin
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minardo also reached the battlefield again
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i remember it took gai/kakashi and co a whole day to travel to sand village from konoha yet minardo went from konoha to battlefield twice in some hours Lol
he even crossed half of konoha in an instant
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so if and when nagato uses CST no matter where he is on the shinobi continent minardo will sense his ass down(he can sense countries away) and kill him before his powers return to him (after cst nagato becomes a fodder)
Before we go any further, this is Alive Minato with possible SM, heck Imma only use Alive Minato to prove my point and Nagato is Mobile Nagato with no paths U_U Also for the sake of Argument both shinobis have full intel on each other, otherwise Nagato gets Shunshin killed Neg Diff U_U
I'm going to list Nagato's abilities and how Minato counters each and every single one of them.
What Minato needs to counter and Kill Nagato without much effort:
1. Shadow Clones
2. Hiraishin no Jutsu
3. Hiraishin no Jutsu level 2
4. Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi
5. Hiraishin Kunais
6. Jikukan Keekei [Hiraishin Barrier]
7. Minato's Rasengan
8. The Contract Seal
9. Sensor Abilities [not even needed tbh]
10. Summons
Now before I start, I'll educate the one's who don't know how FTG works:
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It's Minato that decides who or what to teleport even if some is grabbing him or the one's he wants to teleport. In other words nothing can confine Minato, nothing at all U_U
Nagato's Rinnegan Summons:
First Way:
Minato soloes them with extreme low diff. How? Well it's too easy for him. Shunshin to the said Summon or send a Shadow Clone with Shunshin to that summon and teleport away using the Hiraishin no Jutsu.
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Second Way:
Kuchiyose Boss toads and have them fight the summons, if he wants to save the chakra, he could have a Shadow Clone enter into Sage Mode some place safe and then use the Hiraishin no jutsu to get where Minato is and then Summon all boss toads and Sage Toads.
Third Way:
The contract seal U_U
#Inb4 Nagato's invisible Summon: Minato is a sensor of Tobirama's level U_U
Nagato's Shinra Tensei:
Even if Nagato uses Shinra Tensei against Minato from inches Minato gets out of it no damage no diff, how? Hiraishin no Jutsu
Minato, shat on Enton+FRS combo neg diff even after getting hit, how? Well before the damage could start to happen he was out of it thanks to Goshun Mawashi, here only Hiraishin is needed
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Also once an ST is used, all Minato needs to do is throw a Kunai and use Hiraishin Level 2 to kill Nagato U_U
Nagato's Bansho Tennin:
First Way:
If Nagato uses Bansho Tennin against Minato, he gets killed in next 3 seconds, how? Well the Hiraishin Goshin Mawashi. All Minato needs to do is to switch himself with one of his clones [well that is if Nagato is able to differentiate clones from Original Lol], Goshun Mawashi is instant, even
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when or how it happened U_U
After the clone get's BT'd i.e. touches Nagato, attaches the Hiraishin marking and then Nagato gets killed the next instant by Kunai to throat or Rasengan to head etc
Second and more efficient way:
Whilst Minato is getting pulled, all he needs to do is to throw his Kunai, we know Minato's throwing speed is perhaps the greatest even [
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U_U
Nagato's Chinaku Tensei:
I'll leave a thread which is extensively dedicated to show how base/alive Minato beats Nagato's Chibaku Tensei without much difficulty
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End of Days has written an even simpler way than mine!
Nagato's Soul Removal:
For soul removal to work Nagato needs to touch Minato physically, which if ever happens means Nagato's death in next 3 seconds U_U
For the arguments sake, lets put Minato in the same situation as
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[even though that'll never happen given Minato's legendary skill]. Now let's make it even harder for him and say he doesn't have any shadow clones around. Now what will Minato do?
Well he'll do exactly what he did to own
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, he'll swing a Kuani in slow speed, teleport to another Kunai he has on the field, before Nagato could even realize what happened use
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to Kill Nagato U_U
#Inb4 Minato can't throw Kunai:
Naruto blasted Rasengan's at Nagato, Minato throws Kunai neg diff U_U
As you can see, all of the abilities Minato used so far are something that the Preta Path can't absorb Lol [Rasengan was used as a final blow but a Kunai to throat works in all those cases as well U_U]
Nagato's Preta Path:
It absorbs Ninjutsu, the only Ninjutsu which is absorbable from Minato is the Rasengan which I'm pretty sure will never get absorbed because of it being used as a killer blow to which Nagato can't react. I mean Obito who with his phasing ability that got the better of
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it [when it was used in conjunction with the Hiraishin Level 2]
#Inb4 Preta absorbs Hiraishin marking:
As Minato said that
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, it stayed on Obito even after 17 years! Now some say that the making gets absorbed by Preta, well no. Why?
1. Obito had the Rinnegan and he couldn't remove that marking. So preta doesn't work.
2. Juubito had the Rinnegan and the Onmyoudon which erases Ninjutsu, well Juubito
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with either U_U
Nagato's Mechanical Bastard and Shared Vision:
Hiraishin + Shunshin + Rasengan U_U
Mechanical bastard isn't gonna touch Minato with his speed and Hiraishin, it'll get murked if hit by Minato's Rasengan. And if Nagato uses Mechanical bastard with Preta, well Hiraishin escape and whilst escaping do the trick he did against Ei i.e. swing a Kunai and come back with
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U_U
Each and every thing from Nagato's arsenal gets shat on by Hiraishin and it's variants to which Nagato has absolutely no counter. People only think that Nagato ST's the FTG Kunai and it's done Lol but the reality is far from it. They forget that Minato keeps many Kuanis with himself [on himself]. Also Nagato has zero Long Range attacks that could work on Minato, to harm Minato in any way he needs to close in and that's where Minato beats him at his own game because Minato is the greatest close combat shinobi bar [Juubi Jins, 8th gate Gai and Rikudou Naruto] on par with Rinnegan Obito!!
Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers
EDIT:
# Inb4: Nagato shits on Minato neg diff:
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Think real hard about what Deva said in here, its the Viz scan U_U
Credits to Minator .
You showed him teleporting to different positions in the same battlefield. The difference with the ghost mode is he can still be seen there while his opponents knows he is in the other world as it's his mode. Obito can't be away for more than 5 mins so it's completely different as there's a time set while Obitp can counter the opponent.
Obito dose diff from minato there is two way to teleport 1. Open a worm hole and travle through the worm hole like on stargate . 2. Break your moec break at light speed and shoot to a diff place which is what minato dose.
I said, ''passive'', and that means he cannot sense auto. He must switch his Chakra to sensory mode, which he only can do that when not fighting anyone. [
I said, ''passive'', and that means he cannot sense auto. He must switch his Chakra to sensory mode, which he only can do that when not fighting anyone. [
Minato teleports anything he or his Chakra is in contact with.
Minato summons a boss toad. Lets the toad with his clone jump towards Chibaku Tensei to land there so he himself won't receive damage from the impact and then, he teleports Chibaku Tensei away like he teleported away Kyuubi [
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]. With Sage Mode, Minato would have even the durability to land at Chibaku Tensei without receiving damage.
even if minardo need passive for sensing nagato it works. after minardo warps away from cst there's no need for him to be in fight he can be still and sense nagato and then go to fight to him. and nagato turns fodder after using cst lol
even if minardo need passive for sensing nagato it works. after minardo warps away from cst there's no need for him to be in fight he can be still and sense nagato and then go to fight to him. and nagato turns fodder after using cst lol
minardo can go back to konoha ot his safe houses or other marking. nagato becomes useless for a considarable period after cst.
Ken Masters said:
lol @ all people arguing about minardo losing his tags when nagato uses CST
minardo is tobirama level sensor who sense nardo from countries away
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minardo was the first one to reach the battlefield with shunshin
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minardo also reached the battlefield again
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i remember it took gai/kakashi and co a whole day to travel to sand village from konoha yet minardo went from konoha to battlefield twice in some hours Lol
he even crossed half of konoha in an instant
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so if and when nagato uses CST no matter where he is on the shinobi continent minardo will sense his ass down(he can sense countries away) and kill him before his powers return to him (after cst nagato becomes a fodder)
Minato teleports anything he or his Chakra is in contact with.
Minato summons a boss toad. Lets the toad with his clone jump towards Chibaku Tensei to land there so he himself won't receive damage from the impact and then, he teleports Chibaku Tensei away like he teleported away Kyuubi [
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]. With Sage Mode, Minato would have even the durability to land at Chibaku Tensei without receiving damage.
It all makes sense until you realise Minato's clone is on top of Bunta, and that means Minato's clone is the first thing making contact with the CT, so he insta-dies lmao. Not to mention, Bunta would die from such an impact, and that's completely out of character for Minato, hence not viable in the first place. Minato not dying from the impact with SM is baseless. And do note, this is all under the assumption that Minato can throw Kunai's mountain ranges away; which he can't. Thus any far away Kunai is still gravitated into the CT.
It all makes sense until you realise Minato's clone is on top of Bunta, and that means Minato's clone is the first thing making contact with the CT, so he insta-dies lmao. Not to mention, Bunta would die from such an impact, and that's completely out of character for Minato, hence not viable in the first place. Minato not dying from the impact with SM is baseless. And do note, this is all under the assumption that Minato can throw Kunai's mountain ranges away; which he can't. Thus any far away Kunai is still gravitated into the CT.
Uhm, no. Minato or his clone sits on Gamabunta's head while latter jumps towards Chibaku Tensei and lands on all fours. Even if the force of gravitation would be so strong that it would break Gamabuntas bones, which shouldn't be the case, broken bones would be a sacrifice to tolerate for the sake of victory.
What's in-character or out-character is not up to your estimation. A Shinobi acts accordingly to the situation, and if something is within one's capabilities, he can make use of it.
Minato can't throw Kunai mountain ranges away, but he has clones which can also use Shunshin, to place Kunai at a distant location.
I also don't understand why Kunai which are placed around the world, such as Konoha and distant surroundings are count as preparation. This is no preparation, the Kunai are there in general as he placed them for any number of things. He also wasn't prepared for the Kyuubi's attack but yet teleported his Bijuudama away to a distant location, since he placed a Kunai there.
So preparation or not, his Kunai are spread around several surroundings. They simply are, whether this fight includes preparation or not. Even in an unprepared fight, the Kunai are still there.
Uhm, no. Minato or his clone sits on Gamabunta's head while latter jumps towards Chibaku Tensei and lands on all fours. Even if the force of gravitation would be so strong that it would break Gamabuntas bones, which shouldn't be the case, broken bones would be a sacrifice to tolerate for the sake of victory.
What's in-character or out-character is not up to your estimation. A Shinobi acts accordingly to the situation, and if something is within one's capabilities, he can make use of it.
Minato can't throw Kunai mountain ranges away, but he has clones which can also use Shunshin, to place Kunai at a distant location.
I also don't understand why Kunai which are placed around the world, such as Konoha and distant surroundings are count as preparation. This is no preparation, the Kunai are there in general as he placed them for any number of things. He also wasn't prepared for the Kyuubi's attack but yet teleported his Bijuudama away to a distant location, since he placed a Kunai there.
So preparation or not, his Kunai are spread around several surroundings. They simply are, whether this fight includes preparation or not. Even in an unprepared fight, the Kunai are still there.
So Bunta can do backflips now? You're grasping at straws here, in no way would anything of the sort happen, this ain't no gymnastic manga. Bunta cannot choose to do a simple 180, it does not work in such a way. Go skydiving and try a 180, tell me if you can stop spinning.. People need to start being realistic here and stop the "I can make a strategy" bullshit. It makes no sense, and has never, and would never happen; as it is not possible in real world physics, nor does a toad actually have the ability to put his weight on one part of his body since they can't move anything bar their limbs and necks (while we can use our core to do such, though it wouldn't happen in such a circumstance due to the gravity). And how would that not be the case? The CT's gravitational force is far more powerful than the S/T's force which broke every bone in his body. Not to mention he's going head on, so he won't have the ability to be pushed away, thus minimise the impact, he will go head on and he won't bump backwards to reduce the force. So no, death won't be permitted by Minato, that's out of character.
No, you fail at this point. You are not what decides what is within Minato's methodological way of thinking. In no way would Minato agree on the death of his toad for his own benefit, you are twisting Minato's good-willed character in order to prevent a concession.
And now we are under the assumption that Minato's clones can Shunshin while CT is taking effect. We saw KCM Naruto fight Nagato. He had seen the jutsu before and he didn't even try to escape, despite his Shunshin being vastly superior to that of Minato's. He tries no clones, nothing of the sort. You either destroy CT, counter it in some way, or lose. There's no escape to it, and there will be no escape from it by Minato. Unless they are already outside of the CT range by the time CT has been initiated, they end up going back to the CT as do the rocks that are 100 times heavier than them.
That's because they were prepped from before hand. Konan does not get the bombs in her fights, she'd be top tier. Kabuto and Oro don't get their Edo's, that's prep. They were put there, thus they are counted as prep as this fight was directly or indirectly prepared for with Hirashin Markings. You not getting it doesn't matter, what matters is that they are counted as prep regardless.
