Base Minato vs Mobile Nagato

[Penguin]

As if Minato would teleport a Chibaku Tensei to Myōboku. He isn't going to kill all the toads there Lol

 

[Transcendence]

Chou Shinra Tensei disperses the Kunai around them and flattens Minato in the process.

 

[Gold Lightning]

As if Minato would teleport a Chibaku Tensei to Myōboku. He isn't going to kill all the toads there Lol

There's an entire mountain area well away from where the toads reside, and land upon land of space to go to. The toads are fine.

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[King Of Pop]

Nagato wins low mid dif

 

[Demonic.]

No one has even mentioned the Gedo Lol

 

[Gold Lightning]

No one has even mentioned the Gedo Lol

isn't it because the way nagato uses it, requires a ton of chakra. And impaling of several rods in his back? And then his soul dragon is useless against Minatos barrier?

It's different to how Obito and Madara use it.

 

[Demonic.]

^ good point.

 

[lucario14]

CT ends minato with no markings prepped beforehand.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Nagato takes it High Diff. As he would end up having to use Chibaku Tensei or Chou Shinra Tensei as a field sweeper to catch him.​

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[A v i]

IMO Minato can deal with CT via S/T barrier. Nagato would lose control over it,once Minato sucks it with S/T barrier then Minato can release it.


OT: Nagato clearly wins this. Minato ain't got anything against Chou Shinra Tensei.

No one has even mentioned the Gedo Lol

Gedo is good for nothing against Minato. It can't do anything to him and it ends up draining loads of juice from Nagato.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Congrats OP on making a hot thread. I am going with Nagato.

 

[Lariatoo]

Nagato mid diff. He is honestly a tiver above Minato in my opinion. Minato vs Pain would be more fair.

 

[Valhorus]

Before we go any further, this is Alive Minato with possible SM, heck Imma only use Alive Minato to prove my point and Nagato is Mobile Nagato with no paths U_U Also for the sake of Argument both shinobis have full intel on each other, otherwise Nagato gets Shunshin killed Neg Diff U_U

I'm going to list Nagato's abilities and how Minato counters each and every single one of them.

List of Nagato's Abilites that he uses in battle:

1. Sensor
2. Summons
3. Shinra Tensei [it has 5 second interval]
4. Bansho Tennin
5. Chinaku Tensei
6. Soul Removal
7. Preta Abilities
8. Mechanical Bastard
9. Rinnegan's Shared Vision

What Minato needs to counter and Kill Nagato without much effort:

1. Shadow Clones
2. Hiraishin no Jutsu
3. Hiraishin no Jutsu level 2
4. Hiraishin Goshun Mawashi
5. Hiraishin Kunais
6. Jikukan Keekei [Hiraishin Barrier]
7. Minato's Rasengan
8. The Contract Seal
9. Sensor Abilities [not even needed tbh]
10. Summons

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Now before I start, I'll educate the one's who don't know how FTG works:

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It's Minato that decides who or what to teleport even if some is grabbing him or the one's he wants to teleport. In other words nothing can confine Minato, nothing at all U_U

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Nagato's Rinnegan Summons:

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First Way:

Minato soloes them with extreme low diff. How? Well it's too easy for him. Shunshin to the said Summon or send a Shadow Clone with Shunshin to that summon and teleport away using the Hiraishin no Jutsu.

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Second Way:

Kuchiyose Boss toads and have them fight the summons, if he wants to save the chakra, he could have a Shadow Clone enter into Sage Mode some place safe and then use the Hiraishin no jutsu to get where Minato is and then Summon all boss toads and Sage Toads.

Third Way:

The contract seal U_U

#Inb4 Nagato's invisible Summon: Minato is a sensor of Tobirama's level U_U

Nagato's Shinra Tensei:

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Even if Nagato uses Shinra Tensei against Minato from inches Minato gets out of it no damage no diff, how? Hiraishin no Jutsu

Minato, shat on Enton+FRS combo neg diff even after getting hit, how? Well before the damage could start to happen he was out of it thanks to Goshun Mawashi, here only Hiraishin is needed

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Also once an ST is used, all Minato needs to do is throw a Kunai and use Hiraishin Level 2 to kill Nagato U_U

Nagato's Bansho Tennin:

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First Way:

If Nagato uses Bansho Tennin against Minato, he gets killed in next 3 seconds, how? Well the Hiraishin Goshin Mawashi. All Minato needs to do is to switch himself with one of his clones [well that is if Nagato is able to differentiate clones from Original Lol], Goshun Mawashi is instant, even

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when or how it happened U_U

After the clone get's BT'd i.e. touches Nagato, attaches the Hiraishin marking and then Nagato gets killed the next instant by Kunai to throat or Rasengan to head etc

Second and more efficient way:

Whilst Minato is getting pulled, all he needs to do is to throw his Kunai, we know Minato's throwing speed is perhaps the greatest even [

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U_U

Nagato's Chinaku Tensei:

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I'll leave a thread which is extensively dedicated to show how base/alive Minato beats Nagato's Chibaku Tensei without much difficulty

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End of Days has written an even simpler way than mine!

Nagato's Soul Removal:

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For soul removal to work Nagato needs to touch Minato physically, which if ever happens means Nagato's death in next 3 seconds U_U

For the arguments sake, lets put Minato in the same situation as

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[even though that'll never happen given Minato's legendary skill]. Now let's make it even harder for him and say he doesn't have any shadow clones around. Now what will Minato do?

Well he'll do exactly what he did to own

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, he'll swing a Kuani in slow speed, teleport to another Kunai he has on the field, before Nagato could even realize what happened use

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to Kill Nagato U_U

#Inb4 Minato can't throw Kunai:

Naruto blasted Rasengan's at Nagato, Minato throws Kunai neg diff U_U

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As you can see, all of the abilities Minato used so far are something that the Preta Path can't absorb Lol [Rasengan was used as a final blow but a Kunai to throat works in all those cases as well U_U]

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Nagato's Preta Path:

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It absorbs Ninjutsu, the only Ninjutsu which is absorbable from Minato is the Rasengan which I'm pretty sure will never get absorbed because of it being used as a killer blow to which Nagato can't react. I mean Obito who with his phasing ability that got the better of

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it [when it was used in conjunction with the Hiraishin Level 2]

#Inb4 Preta absorbs Hiraishin marking:

As Minato said that

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, it stayed on Obito even after 17 years! Now some say that the making gets absorbed by Preta, well no. Why?

1. Obito had the Rinnegan and he couldn't remove that marking. So preta doesn't work.

2. Juubito had the Rinnegan and the Onmyoudon which erases Ninjutsu, well Juubito

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with either U_U

Nagato's Mechanical Bastard and Shared Vision:

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Hiraishin + Shunshin + Rasengan U_U

Mechanical bastard isn't gonna touch Minato with his speed and Hiraishin, it'll get murked if hit by Minato's Rasengan. And if Nagato uses Mechanical bastard with Preta, well Hiraishin escape and whilst escaping do the trick he did against Ei i.e. swing a Kunai and come back with

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U_U

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Each and every thing from Nagato's arsenal gets shat on by Hiraishin and it's variants to which Nagato has absolutely no counter. People only think that Nagato ST's the FTG Kunai and it's done Lol but the reality is far from it. They forget that Minato keeps many Kuanis with himself [on himself]. Also Nagato has zero Long Range attacks that could work on Minato, to harm Minato in any way he needs to close in and that's where Minato beats him at his own game because Minato is the greatest close combat shinobi bar [Juubi Jins, 8th gate Gai and Rikudou Naruto] on par with Rinnegan Obito!!

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Hope you guys enjoyed :flowers

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EDIT:

# Inb4: Nagato shits on Minato neg diff:

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Think real hard about what Deva said in here, its the Viz scan U_U
Credits to Minator .

 

[Lord of Akatsuki]

isn't it because the way nagato uses it, requires a ton of chakra. And impaling of several rods in his back? And then his soul dragon is useless against Minatos barrier?

It's different to how Obito and Madara use it.

The Gedo only took so much chakra and life force from Nagato because it was empty.
He was literally pumping it with Tailed Beast Chakra reserves.

 

[Apêx1]

Except it's not out of character, it's completely in character.

The reason you say it's out of character is because people like to restrict minatos markings. In the manga, Minato always has a marking outside of battle. Either before hand or he sets it up, that's how he fights. It's a precautionary tactic to deal with difficult techniques.

Against Obito, he didn't need to set up outside markings because he already had them outside the village and other locations. Against the Juubi and Juubito, he already placed a Kunai in the ocean before arriving on the battlefield. Because it's the most common sense thing to do when going into battle.

However some people take basically his number 1 tactic away in vs threads. So what is he expected to do against such techniques? If it was a real situation in the manga, and he "forgot" to set up markings outside before hand. Then he'd have to think of another strategy, which is precisely why I have to resort to such an unusual, yet believable tactic. It's not out of characters to think outside the box and be unpredictable is it? I though that's what happens in most Naruto fights.

Anyway my point is, if it was a real manga/anime situation. Mianto would always have a marking elsewhere to deal with such things. And in that case, I believe Minato has his chances of beating nagato's. Without it, minatos only chance is of he marks nagato beforehand.

Hence Minato loses.

Yes, but that's prep. That would mean everyone gets edo's, Konan is now a top tier due to billions of explosives, etc. Prep is often disregarded in NDS, you should've realised that by now. Not to mention, he leaves the whole location, so he auto-loses by battlefield removal.

Again, prep is not in or out of character. It is irrelevant to this, so I don't know why you are mentioning it.

Yes, he'd have a marking if he had prep. But he doesn't. And he can't leave location, as that is BFR, so again, even if he had prep, he would've lost. But marking Nagato isn't happening when Deva Path could knock away 3 toad summonings 100 meters away. Minato is pushed away and CT is then initiated right after the location is nuked with Ashura's explosives. So Minato loses via CT, end of story.

Rocks weren't gathered from behind nagato. In fact where nagato stood the land remained the same. Had he been in range or in that area the rocks would have been upturned. Which it isnt.

The wank is real. You can say whatever you want, Nagato was 10 meters away and used CT without being affected. Prove someone moved location or your point is moot. Prove how 10 meters is making all the difference when it clearly didn't. Minato goes into CT and laughably dies, as he attempts to teleport to ineffective Kunai's which are within the orb. You will realise how stupid your argument is when Nagato can barely move due to his immobility (and can't while initiating CT) while Naruto, Bee and Minato couldn't have moved when trees were right behind them [

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], and evidently trees were right behind them while they were going upwards [

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]. As you can see here [

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], it wasn't far off Nagato, so your entire argumentation is moot and baseless.

Lol @ Minato having a marking in Mt. Myoboku; I'll need some proof of that. Lol @ Minato destroying the holy location.
Lol @ saying 6POP loses to Jiraiya. Lol @ Jiraiaya standing up to Deva Paths alone. Lol @

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[A v i]

The wank is real. You can say whatever you want, Nagato was 10 meters away and used CT without being affected. Prove someone moved location or your point is moot. Prove how 10 meters is making all the difference when it clearly didn't. Minato goes into CT and laughably dies, as he attempts to teleport to ineffective Kunai's which are within the orb. You will realise how stupid your argument is when Nagato can barely move due to his immobility (and can't while initiating CT) while Naruto, Bee and Minato couldn't have moved when trees were right behind them [

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], and evidently trees were right behind them while they were going upwards [

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]. As you can see here [

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], it wasn't far off Nagato, so your entire argumentation is moot and baseless.[/IMG]

Nothing stops him from trolling CT with S/T barrier.

Yes he did. It's obvious he isn't in the ct range cup the ground he's standing on isn't tore up by ct. Same goes for the ground naruto and Co is standing on.

No, Apex/Indraboi(whatever it is) was right, Nagato was standing within CT's range back then.

 

[Dage The Evil]

Minato does have SM but he says he's not very good at it.

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[A v i]

As if Minato would teleport a Chibaku Tensei to Myōboku. He isn't going to kill all the toads there Lol

Nothing suggests that CT'll keep attracting things even after getting separated from Nagato's range.

 

[Apêx1]

Nothing stops him from trolling CT with S/T barrier.




No, Apex/Indraboi(whatever it is) was right, Nagato was standing within CT's range back then.

The fact that S/T Barrier only works when you can teleport the C/T to another FTG mark that will also be within the CT makes this point void. Not to mention that by the time Naruto reached CT, the CT was well above the size an S/T Barrier could handle.

 

[A v i]

The fact that S/T Barrier only works when you can teleport the C/T to another FTG mark that will also be within the CT makes this point void. Not to mention that by the time Naruto reached CT, the CT was well above the size an S/T Barrier could handle.

Minato can use S/T barrier before it gets too big. He teleported something as big as Juubidama which is >>>>>>>>>>CT that Nagato displayed. CT sucks the kunai that were spread all over the battle field that doesn't mean that he'll be left with no kunai's. CT'll lose it's meaning once it gets separated from Nagato. Minato can throw a kunai in same battle field and release it. Noting suggests that Nagato gain control over it after it gets released by Minato.