No way to know especially if you're talking about current Kong. We know however that in his younger days, he was an admiral during Roger's era that Chinjao described to be greater than the current one(although he was obviously wrong), so it can be assumed he was rather strong, admiral level at the very least. Though not as strong as Garp apparently
[Discussion] How strong do you think Kong is?
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jiraiya lives
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Admiral level at the weakest. Golden age level at the strongest (roger, prime WB, Garp, Shiki). He was fleet admiral during Rogers era and it has been shown by sengoku, Aokiji and akainu that you must have been a marine admiral to even be considered for the position of fleet admiral. Kong was probably the strongest admiral to ever live during his prime.
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so if he's above fleet admiral in tittle,is it then possible for him to be weaker than Garp?
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Oda probably hasn't decided yet.
He's leaving the decision until later which is smart. He doesn't want to create a power ceiling just yet.
He's leaving the decision until later which is smart. He doesn't want to create a power ceiling just yet.
Rank has nothing to with strength. otherwise Garp would be the FA instead of Sengoku. And Yes, it is possible for Garp to be above him as he's one of two people who can match Roger. Kong was at his peak during that time.
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true but you can't expect the FA during that time to be weak since we all know how strong the pirates during that era was. Also, Sengoku has been depicted to be close to Garp in terms of power. I would expect the FA during that time to be as stronger if not stronger than those two.
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I don't get why you guys are assuming that FA is any different from admirals when it comes to strength. A fleet admiral is just an admiral level fighter with good leadership skills. Being a superior officer won't make him stronger. He could be weaker than his fellow admirals for all we know but still nothing can stop him from attaining the tittle FA if he has better leadership skills than his colleagues.
Manga never portrayed Sengoku to be closer to Garp in strength. Garp, Wb and Roger have their own tier. Kong at best is a bit above admiral level during his prime and still below Roger,WB and Garp.
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One Piece tiers are
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Kong was Yonko level imo...Garp was PK level
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Seeing how Akainu could be Yonko level, Kong was also Yonko level in prime because he was a fleet admiral too. And yes, fleet admirals are usually stronger than admirals (akainu vs aokiji). Garp is a major exception
Akainu is admiral level and so is Aokiji. He barely won against Aokiji. How on earth can you possibly put him a level above admiral when he barely won the match? The fact that it took 10 days for him to win against Aokiji proves that their strengths are even closer than Lucci and Luffy during EL arc. Akainu is by no means above admiral level and so are Kong and Sengoku based on the information we have so far.
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still,I expect kong to be yonko level. I mean, look at the pirates and marines of that era and you will expect the fleet admiral to be at least yonko level. I don't expect anyone weaker than that to be FA
Akainu was made FA based on his strength and not leadership skills. I expect Kong to be stronger than Akainu due to the crazy strength of everyone in that era
Akainu was made FA based on his strength and not leadership skills. I expect Kong to be stronger than Akainu due to the crazy strength of everyone in that era
What if pirates of his time are strong? How can it help you to prove that admirals of that time are stronger? I think you are overlooking the fact that Luffy's going to reach the same level as Roger. Do you think Oda would make the FA of Luffy's ara to be weaker than FA of Rogers ara? Admirals of Rogers time are same as current admirals until proven otherwise via feats or portrayal.
You know that the battle b/w Akainu and Aokiji was the first ever battle over the title of FA right? which proves that no one before Akainu was selected as FA based on strength. Before his battle with Aokiji,no one knows if Akainu was stronger than Aokiji or not. Yet higher ups suggested him to be FA which proves that what they concerns the most to select someone as FA is his leadership skills not just strength. A FA is an admiral with good leadership skills, even if he's stronger than his fellow admirals, He can never be on another level when compared to admirals.
Kong might be a special exception like Garp but we can't say that for sure as we know only a little about him. He's at least admiral level for all we know. Anything above admiral level would be nothing more than a mere speculation at this point.
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Shichibukai level isn't a thing. The strength of the Shichibukai varies way too much for Shichibukai level to exist.
