[Discussion] Why people say Ulquiorra>Starkk?

[Dannie]

Because he is, and until you prove to me how Starrk can harm Ulquiorra, he is not beating Ulquiorra. Simple as that.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Then Aizen must have been smoking some serious shit when he ranked Yammy over Barragan.

I don't see why Yammy's ability can't be better than Barragan's?

Ability to get stronger with your rage, is IMO far better than Respira or Starrk's abilities. Also, Starrk was overall better (speed, strength, cero) than Barragan. For me Barragan's place is fine.

 

[Dannie]

I don't see why Yammy's ability can't be better than Barragan's?

Ability to get stronger with your rage, is IMO far better than Respira or Starrk's abilities. Also, Starrk was overall better (speed, strength, cero) than Barragan. For me Barragan's place is fine.

If Barragan touches Yammy, he's through. There's noting that Yammy can do to heal from Barragan's ability and Yammy's ability is no where near the hax level of barragan.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Because he is, and until you prove to me how Starrk can harm Ulquiorra, he is not beating Ulquiorra. Simple as that.

Starkk fires 1000 Ceros gg

 

[Jin]

Ulquiorra never showed Aizen His second release. If he did he would have easily taken Starks place as espada number 1

because his second release was OP and not even kaizen had seen it. he still had his regeneration abilities in his second release so he former could have beat barragan who i believe was better than stark I'm not really sure why stark was put above barragan. all stark has is ceros fired at a fast rate which isn't that impressive to someone with speed and as we saw ulquiorra was faster than hollow mask ichigo who's whole power is basically speed. his wolf attack also isn't that impressive and using it might result in his other half dying so its never even used to its full potential until a critical moment and after that stark is left defenseless

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how could you not get this?

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All of you guys that I quoted, do you really think Aizen didn't know about his R2 ? Aizen knew everything. He literally planned Ichigo's life.

Because he is, and until you prove to me how Starrk can harm Ulquiorra, he is not beating Ulquiorra. Simple as that.

Can you prove me how Ulq can harm Starrk then, please ?

 

[Forbidden Tale]

If Barragan touches Yammy, he's through. There's noting that Yammy can do to heal from Barragan's ability and Yammy's ability is no where near the hax level of barragan.

Hax is not everything. Most haxed character in Bleach - Aizen, still said that Yamamaoto in 1 vs 1 fight would destroy him. Yamamoto is no hax...

Databook said that their ranks are based on their abilities. Yammy is above Barragan, therefore Aizen see his ability as better.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

It's because Ulquiorra is the strongest Espada. Aizen didn't know about R2 form of Ulquiorra. Lanza >>> Starrk's cero

 

[Dannie]

Starkk fires 1000 Ceros gg

Yes, because that worked so well against Kyoraku, right?

All of you guys that I quoted, do you really think Aizen didn't know about his R2 ? Aizen knew everything. He literally planned Ichigo's life.

I think you need to get a clue, buddy. If Ulquiorra explicitly stated that only he himself knew about his resurrection than I don't see how you can try to cover it up with some bullshit excuse.

Ulquiorra is so underrated and yet Aizen was the one to trust him with all of his errands and his assignments. I can't believe people don't see this.

Where was Starrk at? Oh that's right. Sleeping and being lazy.

Can you prove me how Ulq can harm Starrk then, please ?

I asked you a question first, so that means you answer my question and not return with another question.
1000 Cero's are not doing anything.
Those fodder wolves are evaded and then intercepted by Lanza AoE and then Ulquiorra is keen to senses so he can handle himself well against Starrk.

I repeat, what can Starrk do to harm Ulquiorra? I'm waiting.

Hax is not everything.

It seems impossible to reason with you.
If 'hax' is not everything than what is the purpose of an ability?

Barragan is deemed powerful because of his 'haxed' ability. It's as simple as that.

wtf can Yammy do to even beat Barragan.

I swear to god, Starrk and Yammy fanboys are so damn blind. They think numbers mean everything. Please.

Most haxed character in Bleach - Aizen, still said that Yamamaoto in 1 vs 1 fight would destroy him. Yamamoto is no hax...

You're logic is very stupid. Everyone knows that Yamamoto has a very unfair bankai which makes it haxed.

Databook said that their ranks are based on their abilities. Yammy is above Barragan, therefore Aizen see his ability as better.

Your simplistic view of things makes you see things narrow minded which ends up being wrong.

There's a reason why Yammy is number 10. He is the weakest and has the least threatening resurrection. The fact that you think that Yammy has the strongest ability proves that you take every word that a character says to heart without looking at actual feats instead of hanging on to some databook reference.

It's because Ulquiorra is the strongest Espada. Aizen didn't know about R2 form of Ulquiorra. Lanza >>> Starrk's cero

Finally someone with some damn sense in this thread.

 

[Jin]

Yes, because that worked so well against Kyoraku, right?


I think you need to get a clue, buddy. If Ulquiorra explicitly stated that only he himself knew about his resurrection than I don't see how you can try to cover it up with some bullshit excuse.

Ulquiorra is so underrated and yet Aizen was the one to trust him with all of his errands and his assignments. I can't believe people don't see this.

Where was Starrk at? Oh that's right. Sleeping and being lazy.


I asked you a question first, so that means you answer my question and not return with another question.
1000 Cero's are not doing anything.
Those fodder wolves are evaded and then intercepted by Lanza AoE and then Ulquiorra is keen to senses so he can handle himself well against Starrk.

I repeat, what can Starrk do to harm Ulquiorra? I'm waiting.


It seems impossible to reason with you.
If 'hax' is not everything than what is the purpose of an ability?

Barragan is deemed powerful because of his 'haxed' ability. It's as simple as that.

wtf can Yammy do to even beat Barragan.

I swear to god, Starrk and Yammy fanboys are so damn blind. They think numbers mean everything. Please.


You're logic is very stupid. Everyone knows that Yamamoto has a very unfair bankai which makes it haxed.


Your simplistic view of things makes you see things narrow minded which ends up being wrong.

There's a reason why Yammy is number 10. He is the weakest and has the least threatening resurrection. The fact that you think that Yammy has the strongest ability proves that you take every word that a character says to heart without looking at actual feats instead of hanging on to some databook reference.


Finally someone with some damn sense in this thread.

LMFAO IDK if you are serious or not. Just by it's name "1000" Cero. Imagine that, and they're a high class Cero, not like fodder cero. And he could shoot them all in a second. I didn't see Ulq do something like that. Also if I remember correctly, he was the only Espada firing a cero without any gestures or body movement. Ulq had to lay his index finger, right ?
Now it's your turn to explain how Ulq can harm Starrk ? Good luck with that

 

[Forbidden Tale]

It seems impossible to reason with you.
If 'hax' is not everything than what is the purpose of an ability?

Barragan is deemed powerful because of his 'haxed' ability. It's as simple as that.

wtf can Yammy do to even beat Barragan.

Hax can still be beaten by non hax. Barragan is strong for an espada, but that don't mean that he would be able to beat all espadas. Since you believe Ulq is stronger than Barragan, tell me how Ulq beat Respira?

I already posted page where it was proven that their rank is based on abilities.

I swear to god, Starrk and Yammy fanboys are so damn blind. They think numbers mean everything. Please.

1. That's not an argument.
2. I'm not fanboy, because I think character A > Character B. I can say same for you. "I swear to god, Ulq fanbous are so damn blind, they think Aizen is a fool, please".
3. And agains this is not argument.

You're logic is very stupid. Everyone knows that Yamamoto has a very unfair bankai which makes it haxed.

And please tell me when did Aizen refer to bankai. He referred to shikai.

Your simplistic view of things makes you see things narrow minded which ends up being wrong.

???

There's a reason why Yammy is number 10. He is the weakest and has the least threatening resurrection. The fact that you think that Yammy has the strongest ability proves that you take every word that a character says to heart without looking at actual feats instead of hanging on to some databook reference.

That just show how Yammy ability is good. He can go from 10 to 0.

So you want to say that you are right and Kubo is wrong?

 

[Joseph Gomes]

LMFAO IDK if you are serious or not. Just by it's name "1000" Cero. Imagine that, and they're a high class Cero, not like fodder cero. And he could shoot them all in a second. I didn't see Ulq do something like that. Also if I remember correctly, he was the only Espada firing a cero without any gestures or body movement. Ulq had to lay his index finger, right ?
Now it's your turn to explain how Ulq can harm Starrk ? Good luck with that

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You wanted explanation?

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

The whole espada tier system is bullshit. Yammy is only zero because he can theoretically get infinite angry, and infinite power. Barragan is only two because Aiken doesn't want him in the top spot. IMO stark and ulquiorra are about even. Difference being that ulquiorra needed massive crazy power ups from ichigo to beat him, while stark got his ass handed to him by kyorakus shikai, makes people think ulquiorra is stronger.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

The whole espada tier system is bullshit. Yammy is only zero because he can theoretically get infinite angry, and infinite power. Barragan is only two because Aiken doesn't want him in the top spot. IMO stark and ulquiorra are about even. Difference being that ulquiorra needed massive crazy power ups from ichigo to beat him, while stark got his ass handed to him by kyorakus shikai, makes people think ulquiorra is stronger.

Ulquiorra is stronger. Only he has R2. Ulquiorra's Lanza feat trounces Starrk's cero

 

[Dannie]

One Lanza equals like 30 of Starrks fodder wolves.

R2 wins med diff.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Ulquiorra is stronger. Only he has R2. Ulquiorra's Lanza feat trounces Starrk's cero

Starrk easily evades Lazna and...

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The whole espada tier system is bullshit. Yammy is only zero because he can theoretically get infinite angry, and infinite power. Barragan is only two because Aiken doesn't want him in the top spot. IMO stark and ulquiorra are about even. Difference being that ulquiorra needed massive crazy power ups from ichigo to beat him, while stark got his ass handed to him by kyorakus shikai, makes people think ulquiorra is stronger.

Im fairly certain Kyoraku can defeat Uliquiorra and The Hollow Ichigo who defeated Uliquiorra so i dont see why people should underestimate Starrk because he lost to Kyoraku the 3rd strongest Captain Pre TS (Behind Yamamoto and Unohana)

 

[chopstickchakra]

Ulquiorra never showed Aizen His second release. If he did he would have easily taken Starks place as espada number 1

Aizen made the Espada meaning he made EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM including Ulq's 2nd form. Why do people think Aizen the knower of all in this manga didn't know about something he created himself? Lunacy.

OT: The reason people say that is because they like him more than Stark or they just want to argue.

 

[Dannie]

Aizen made the Espada meaning he made EVERYTHING ABOUT THEM including Ulq's 2nd form. Why do people think Aizen the knower of all in this manga didn't know about something he created himself? Lunacy.

OT: The reason people say that is because they like him more than Stark or they just want to argue.

Why would Ulquiorra lie?

If Aizen knew everything about Ulquiorra, including Segunda Etapa, then why did Ulquiorra state otherwise? Are you just saying that Aizen knew about his second release because you like to argue against the manga?

As someone has already kindly stated before, if Aizen knew about his Segunda Etapa, Ulquiorra would be higher than number 4, and that's a fact, given his feats, which put him above Harribel easily.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Starrk easily evades Lazna and...

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Im fairly certain Kyoraku can defeat Uliquiorra and The Hollow Ichigo who defeated Uliquiorra so i dont see why people should underestimate Starrk because he lost to Kyoraku the 3rd strongest Captain Pre TS (Behind Yamamoto and Unohana)

Lanza >>>> Starrk's cero. Ulquiorra can easily avoid Starr's cero

 

[Unorthodox]

Barragan stomps yammy i mean his release was getting trashed by an unfocused Byakuya & Kenpachi

OT - Shunshin he isnt even known for his speed at all had no problem dodging stark cero's Ulq who was constantly blitzing Hollow ichigo dodges them with ease and destroys stark

 

[Unorthodox]

He can go from 10 to 0.
So you want to say that you are right and Kubo is wrong?

Moot point Manga writers often contradict themselfs Feat wise Barragan stomps how does yammy survie one touch of respira?