[Discussion] Luffy vs Zoro vs Sanji

[Hexuze]

Please elaborate......

There's been tons of instances where Sanji should better striking speed feats. From the top of my head, fights with Jabra & Vergo stand out. During the first hits against both Vergo & jabra, Sanji showed amazing striking speed. Even with attack speed, he even has his own variant of Luffy's gatling.

Speed in general:
Luffy > Sanji > Zoro

I really don't get why people say Zoro has amazing striking speed. The only best striking speed feat. (post-TS) he showed was against Hody.

 

[Zorø]

There's been tons of instances where Sanji should better striking speed feats. From the top of my head, fights with Jabra & Vergo stand out. During the first hits against both Vergo & jabra, Sanji showed amazing striking speed. Even with attack speed, he even has his own variant of Luffy's gatling.

Speed in general:
Luffy > Sanji > Zoro

I really don't get why people say Zoro has amazing striking speed. The only best striking speed feat. (post-TS) he showed was against.

Both luffy and Sanji are faster than Zoro no one is denying that U_U...however having said that this doesnt mean Zoro would be completely useless against their superior speed because his striking speed and reaction speed allows him to react to their superior speed as a sort of counter. Zoro has shown way better striking speed than Sanji take a look at Zoro vs Kuma when Zoro landed that surprise Shi shi son son attack on kuma and even though kuma is big but Im sure he can move pretty fast and also what you mentioned before about hordy...Zoro beat a fishman in speed underwater effortlessly that says a lot about his speed and mobility. Zoro is not that slow as you think.

 

[Bogard]

I really don't get why people say Zoro has amazing striking speed. The only best striking speed feat. (post-TS) he showed was against Hody.

Not really. His best post-skip striking speed feats are:

1- When he cut Surume's mountain size limb in 6parties(horizontally and vertically) before Surume could even register the attack
2- When he cut all 6 swords(vertically and horizontally) from transformed Hyouzou's(with multiple swallowed steroids and who could react to gear second Luffy in base) swords before he could register

I'd say those feats are better than everything Luffy or Sanji showed so far in terms of striking speed

 

[A v i]

Sanji showed just as good if not better striking speed feats. than Zoro.

Whole strewhat crew saw how fast Sanji is and their eyes managed to keep up with what Sanji was doing while fighting Kraken but when Zoro attacked it ,even a sharp sniper like Usopp can't follow Zoro's striking speed. Where as, he followed everything that was done by Sanji.

 

[TheHokage]

If your read it a bit carefully, he clearly admitted that Zoro is slower than both Sanji as well as Luffy. It is well known fact that no one can deny. He was trying to explain the difference b/w striking speed and movement speed. & Why Sanji or Luffy having superior speed won't put Zoro at disadvantage against them. Zoro has superior striking speed where as Sanji has superior movement speed. So, Sanji's speed isn't a problem for Zoro as he can counter his speed with his striking speed.

My point is...

Sanji>Zoro overall speed.

 

[silmarill]

Take away Zoro's swords to make it a fair fight

 

[Hexuze]

Both luffy and Sanji are faster than Zoro no one is denying that U_U...however having said that this doesnt mean Zoro would be completely useless against their superior speed because his striking speed and reaction speed allows him to react to their superior speed as a sort of counter. Zoro has shown way better striking speed than Sanji take a look at Zoro vs Kuma when Zoro landed that surprise Shi shi son son attack on kuma and even though kuma is big but Im sure he can move pretty fast and also what you mentioned before about hordy...Zoro beat a fishman in speed underwater effortlessly that says a lot about his speed and mobility. Zoro is not that slow as you think.

I never said his striking speed is terrible, it's obvious that his striking speed is much better than his movement speed but... It's not amazing. It's just good but not better than Sanji's or even Luffy's. If you look back at the post, I said Sanji showed striking speed feats. as good as Zoro if not better, indicating their striking speed is close.

Not really. His best post-skip striking speed feats are:

1- When he cut Surume's mountain size limb in 6parties(horizontally and vertically) before Surume could even register the attack
2- When he cut all 6 swords(vertically and horizontally) from transformed Hyouzou's(with multiple swallowed steroids and who could react to gear second Luffy in base) swords before he could register

I'd say those feats are better than everything Luffy or Sanji showed so far in terms of striking speed

Those are good feats. for striking speed but doesn't prove it's better than Sanji's striking speed, let alone Luffy's.

Whole strewhat crew saw how fast Sanji is and their eyes managed to keep up with what Sanji was doing while fighting Kraken but when Zoro attacked it ,even a sharp sniper like Usopp can't follow Zoro's striking speed. Where as, he followed everything that was done by Sanji.

That's movement speed you're talking about for Sanji and he did that underwater with a lot of water pressure. I'm talking about his striking speed. Even Vergo couldn't intercept it despite realizing someone was coming towards him.

 

[Donald Trump]

Haki-powered Gigant Gatling solos.

 

[A v i]

That's movement speed you're talking about for Sanji and he did that underwater with a lot of water pressure. I'm talking about his striking speed. Even Vergo couldn't intercept it despite realizing someone was coming towards him.

I clearly said they are following everything that was done by Sanji. Sanji kicked Kraken (strikign speed)and Usopp saw that shit with his two golden eyes. Oda was hyping their abilities for a reason:

Sanji's speciality is speed. Hence, he made them wank his speed and hyped him.
Zoro's speciality is striking speed. Hence, he made them wank his striking speed.

Zoro sent multiple strikes towards Kraken yet Usopp can't see any one of them and all of them managed to hit the target at the same time which indicates that the time interval b/w each striking is toooo small. Those slashes travelled under the same water pressure yet no one managed to figure out what actually happened until everything was finished.

Those are good feats. for striking speed but doesn't prove it's better than Sanji's striking speed, let alone Luffy's.

So, making an upgraded version of someone that can react to Luffy's G2 speed look like a fodder interms of striking speed isn't good enough?

G2 Luffy's striking speed > that of Sanji. Base Hyouzou with single sword reacted to G2 Luffy. And Zoro made him look like a fodder when he got huge power boost. he has 6 swords with him on top of it.

My point is...

Sanji>Zoro overall speed.

That's something everyone can agree with but Sanji isn't gaining advantage over Zoro because of superior speed as Zoro has superior striking speed.

 

[David1996]

1. Luffy
2. Zoro
3. Sanji

 

[VongolaX]

I think it has to be an either or for Luffy and Zoro.

Luffy's Haki doesn't fair well against blades and Zoro's superior armors Haki doesn't make it any better.

Luffy's "craziness," is what is needed to win this fight.

 

[Beyonce]

Ya, Sanji and Zoro can't do it but Bellamy can?
I don't even get from where people got this only haki can cut through haki logic.



What does that point going to change?


OT: Obviously Luffy.

The energy steroid increases Hody's attack by 2 fold.
He swallowed multiple handfuls. His attack jumped extraordinarily.

Boosted Hody's bite>>>Zolo Haki slash

 

[Olorin]

I think it has to be an either or for Luffy and Zoro.

lol no, Luffy is clearly the strongest of the 3 and unless Zoro and Sanji team up Luffy definitely wins this, if anyone disagrees maybe they need to reread the manga

 

[Fireplay]

There are 2 ways this fight can go.

1. Luffy wins
2. Sanji stays in the air and waits for Luffy to beat Zoro then finishes off Luffy

Luffy >Zoro>Sanji

The only SH i could see beating Luffy is Sanji through outsmarting him but that most likely wont happen.

Luffy is the strongest SH, deal with it.

 

[Zorø]

There are 2 ways this fight can go.

1. Luffy wins
2. Sanji stays in the air and waits for Luffy to beat Zoro then finishes off Luffy

Luffy >Zoro>Sanji

The only SH i could see beating Luffy is Zoro U_U.

Luffy is the strongest SH, deal with it.

Fixed it for you U_U.

 

[Love Cook]

Fixed it for you U_U.

l0l disliking and rewriting posts. The butthurt is strong in this fanboy.

Other people are not entitled to an opinion.

 

[silmarill]

Luffy uses haki , Sanji passes out. Luffy and Zoro duel resulting in Luffy winning extreme difficulty

 

[A v i]

The energy steroid increases Hody's attack by 2 fold.
He swallowed multiple handfuls. His attack jumped extraordinarily.

My point = You don't need haki to damage a haki user. & what you have posted in this comment clearly supports my point.

Boosted Hody's bite>>>Zolo Haki slash

Simply spouting baseless non sense won't help you here. Unless you have a legit argument.

 

[Olorin]

There are 2 ways this fight can go.

1. Luffy wins
2. Luffy wins

Luffy >Zoro>Sanji

No SH can beat a healthy Luffy

Luffy is the strongest SH, deal with it

There are 2 ways this fight can go.

1. Luffy wins
2. Luffy wins

Luffy >Zoro>Sanji

No SH can beat a healthy Luffy

Luffy is the strongest SH, deal with it

fixed it for the both of you

 

[xcoyote]

Sanji is the smartest here,he lets the other two apes duke it out and proceeds to finish the last one standing.