DRSM Madara vs DMS Kakashi

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=PerfectSchizoid;18074774]One Limbo clone was able to knock each tailed beast hundreds(?) of feet away near simultaneously. I'm quite sure they can knock holes in Perfect Susano'o.
not even close. unstabilized ps from Ems madara tanked a bijju dama from full kyuubi, hes stabilized ps is more durable than that, kakashi has rikudous chakra so hes ps>>>Ems madaras so limbo is not bypassing its defense in any way. not to mention it only knocked the beast down and didnt obliterate them in any way.

Kakashi isn't simply slicing this one. Madara can cover Shinsuusenju with Perfect Susano'o which, while not airborne, can throw multiple swords and devastating damage at Kakashi. Kakashi doesn't have the chakra to warp the entire thing.
yes he slices it easily or warps its parts with kamui shuriken. bold is fanfic, no evidence madara can do that and if my scaling memory serves me correctly, isnt the buddha far larger than hes ps? yes it is hence in theory he cant even cloak it as hes soosano is up to buddhas size. so ss is not any doing a thing here and neither is madaras ps which gets sliced.

Kakashi teleporting Madara does nothing.
it does something, it means madara loses.

His Kamui Raikiri is impressive, of course, but Madara has the reflexes to dodge it. If he doesn't, then it's still no good for Kakashi, as he'll be having to materialize almost directly near Madara, which results in Limbo knocking him back and doing serious damage.
no madara doesnt dodge it as he hit kaguya when he used it on her and shes far above this madara, madara gets cut in two with it or simply kamuid, limbo cant prevent that.
 

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Anyone with a brain knows that the Rinnegan is superior to the MS. Obito couldn't even comprehend its power and that's why he left the second eye because it was too much to handle.

Madara wins this without much trouble.
 

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not even close. unstabilized ps from Ems madara tanked a bijju dama from full kyuubi, hes stabilized ps is more durable than that, kakashi has rikudous chakra so hes ps>>>Ems madaras so limbo is not bypassing its defense in any way. not to mention it only knocked the beast down and didnt obliterate them in any way.


yes he slices it easily or warps its parts with kamui shuriken. bold is fanfic, no evidence madara can do that and if my scaling memory serves me correctly, isnt the buddha far larger than hes ps? yes it is hence in theory he cant even cloak it as hes soosano is up to buddhas size. so ss is not any doing a thing here and neither is madaras ps which gets sliced.


it does something, it means madara loses.


no madara doesnt dodge it as he hit kaguya when he used it on her and shes far above this madara, madara gets cut in two with it or simply kamuid, limbo cant prevent that.

Not even close? You must be the one posting "fanfic". Susano'o has never been shown able to tank a tailed beast bomb and come out unscathered. You must be remembering when it was destroyed, so he then made another, though this time covering Kurama.

One does not simply slice it apart. Do you remember when Madara used multiple tailed beast bombs combined with slashes which resulted in a tie? Simple slashes is asking to be destroyed. Even if he couldn't cover it with Perfect Susano'o for some reason, that just means he can have it separately. Kakashi definitely isn't winning against both a Perfect Susano'o and Shinsuusenju at the same time.

Kaguya had no idea about Kakashi's ability to phase, so she was surprised. That is, unless you're telling me Kakashi is faster than Sasuke's teleportation, which would result in me leaving this thread because of an overload of stupidity. Teleporting Madara is not winning, so that does nothing for him. If Kakashi gets remotely close to Madara, he has five others watching all angles. Don't forget that linked owners of the Rinnegan share the same field of vision. Kakashi has to join the original dimension to damage Madara, which results in getting knocked out.
 

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Kakashi blitzes with Kamui Raikiri, stomps with Kamui Shuriken spam while camping in Perfect Susanoo or just uses Kamui space-time barrier and that's GG. DMS Rikudo Kakashi was outperforming Kaguya, as strong as he can be and even with both Rinnegan SM Madara is tiers and tiers under that level.
 

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Anyone with a brain knows that the Rinnegan is superior to the MS. Obito couldn't even comprehend its power and that's why he left the second eye because it was too much to handle.

Madara wins this without much trouble.

Feats>hype.
 

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Kakashi isn't just going to stand there while limbo's beat him up. If he gets hit, he activates intangibility and waits the limbo's out. THEY DO NOT LAST MORE THAN 5 MINUTES.
 

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Kakashi isn't just going to stand there while limbo's beat him up. If he gets hit, he activates intangibility and waits the limbo's out. THEY DO NOT LAST MORE THAN 5 MINUTES.

He doesn't have to wait them out. Kamui raikiri let's him attack while being intangible. Thus limbo wheather or not it's out can't stop the blitz.
 

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DMS Kamui has proven to be faster than RM Naruto... Plus Madara has nothing against Susanoo... Kamui shurikens negs Limbo... Ps takes Madara head off...
 

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=PerfectSchizoid;18075108]Not even close? You must be the one posting "fanfic". Susano'o has never been shown able to tank a tailed beast bomb and come out unscathered. You must be remembering when it was destroyed, so he then made another, though this time covering Kurama.
no am not actually, what i said is a fact. yes it has read the manga. , tanked it so no it wasnt destroyed seeing as how he cloaked it with the kyuubi some secs later.


One does not simply slice it apart. Do you remember when Madara used multiple tailed beast bombs combined with slashes which resulted in a tie? Simple slashes is asking to be destroyed. Even if he couldn't cover it with Perfect Susano'o for some reason, that just means he can have it separately. Kakashi definitely isn't winning against both a Perfect Susano'o and Shinsuusenju at the same time.
if the slahes are more powerful than what ss can take then yes it gets sliced apart. rikudou powered ps>>Ems madara so dont compare the two.it doesnt help that kakashi can also fly with it, slicing it from different angles and he has kamui shuriken to warp its parts like i have been stating. it warped away portion of kaguyas chakra arms which are bigger than that of the buddhas, so its gets both sliced and its parts warped with shuriken after which gets kamui gg fight ends. no proof madara can use both ps and buddha simultaneously, thats made up, it doesnt make any difference anyways


Kaguya had no idea about Kakashi's ability to phase, so she was surprised. That is, unless you're telling me Kakashi is faster than Sasuke's teleportation, which would result in me leaving this thread because of an overload of stupidity. Teleporting Madara is not winning, so that does nothing for him. If Kakashi gets remotely close to Madara, he has five others watching all angles. Don't forget that linked owners of the Rinnegan share the same field of vision. Kakashi has to join the original dimension to damage Madara, which results in getting knocked out.
and madara likewise would have no idea as well when kakashi pops up near him and cleaves him in two with it. he would be intangible so limbo cant stop it sorry. of course its winning wtf are you talking about? he kamuis him and leaves his ass to rot in kamui dimension hence the battle ends. if he doesnt utilize kamui raikiri then he simply kamuis hes ass from a good distance so no he doesnt even have to get close.. why would he care for limbo anyway when he can simply aim for the real madara seeing as how they cant do jack to him in ps? not to mention limbo only lasts for before they return to madara in which by then the fight would prolly ended, if it doesnt then its a simple kamui gg from there out. limbo or not madara gets swifly beaten here
 

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what the hell ?!
Naruto from from this distance couldn't get into Kaguya space time portal.( ). Obito from this distance got inside.( ). Plus Konan proves that warping yourself is slower than warping someone else.( ). So not only was Kamui wasn't at it's full speed because he was warping himself he was already at a huge distance...
 

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Naruto from from this distance couldn't get into Kaguya space time portal.( ). Obito from this distance got inside.( ). Plus Konan proves that warping yourself is slower than warping someone else.( ). So not only was Kamui wasn't at it's full speed because he was warping himself he was already at a huge distance...

ok, it seems I forgot that... well but it can not be used in as offensive move, because Obito warped himself while at the same time pintpoint Kaguya opened portal to get to it.

so it doesn't prove that long range Kamui > RM Naruto sunshin speed, right ?
 

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no am not actually, what i said is a fact. yes it has read the manga. , tanked it so no it wasnt destroyed seeing as how he cloaked it with the kyuubi some secs later.



if the slahes are more powerful than what ss can take then yes it gets sliced apart. rikudou powered ps>>Ems madara so dont compare the two.it doesnt help that kakashi can also fly with it, slicing it from different angles and he has kamui shuriken to warp its parts like i have been stating. it warped away portion of kaguyas chakra arms which are bigger than that of the buddhas, so its gets both sliced and its parts warped with shuriken after which gets kamui gg fight ends. no proof madara can use both ps and buddha simultaneously, thats made up, it doesnt make any difference anyways



and madara likewise would have no idea as well when kakashi pops up near him and cleaves him in two with it. he would be intangible so limbo cant stop it sorry. of course its winning wtf are you talking about? he kamuis him and leaves his ass to rot in kamui dimension hence the battle ends. if he doesnt utilize kamui raikiri then he simply kamuis hes ass from a good distance so no he doesnt even have to get close.. why would he care for limbo anyway when he can simply aim for the real madara seeing as how they cant do jack to him in ps? not to mention limbo only lasts for before they return to madara in which by then the fight would prolly ended, if it doesnt then its a simple kamui gg from there out. limbo or not madara gets swifly beaten here
Sorry, but that's not proof of it surviving. Naruto and Sasuke also combined theirs in seconds. There's no sufficient proof of a Perfect Susano'o being able to survive a tailed beast bomb.

"Rikudou-powered!" lol. It makes no difference. Since you're so hyped on Hagoromo's chakra, I'd like to let you in on how Madara's natural chakra is the same as Hagoromo's(Indra + Ashura), since his DNA generates it and not his original Uchiha chakra now. Nothing suggests that a Kakashi's slash would be more powerful than a slash with the addition of a tailed beast bomb. Back on your topic of how strong you think sage chakra makes stuff, you may have forgotten that Madara can merge his sage chakra from Hashirama with his Susano'o, making it "stronger" than it is now. Not to mention that he has a contract with Kurama, so he could just summon him and utilize that force. Also, why wouldn't he be able to use a summoning and Susano'o at the same time? That makes no sense to me. It's not like he's constantly stabilizing 25 Perfect Susano'o.

No idea? He react to FTG, which is faster than Kamui, since Kamui requires a portal to teleport, a portal/warp in time that's visible, which makes it more obvious. You're also not understanding what I'm saying. For Kamui Raikiri to work on Madara, Kakashi would have to return to the original dimension, meaning he could then be attacked. He'd have to risk getting roflstomped by Limbo or phase through Madara without hitting him.

Sending Madara to Kamui is retarded on your part both ways. The first is how he can get out by swapping with a Limbo clone that's in the original dimension, meaning there would be a Limbo attacking Kakashi as he uses Kamui and a real one in the real world. The second reason is because "leaving him to rot" makes no sense. Hashirama's cells allow the user to survive without eating and he'll live longer than Kakashi. You're just leaving your character to die.
 

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ok, it seems I forgot that... well but it can not be used in as offensive move, because Obito warped himself while at the same time pintpoint Kaguya opened portal to get to it.

so it doesn't prove that long range Kamui > RM Naruto sunshin speed, right ?
He used short range Kamui to do that it's been proven time and time again long-range Kamui >Close range Kamui in terms of speed...
 

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He used short range Kamui to do that it's been proven time and time again long-range Kamui >Close range Kamui in terms of speed...

Nope he used both at the same time just pay more attention. Notice swirling motion around both of eyes, that why synchronization of both eyes were such important.

Also is there any proof long range Kamui > sunshin RM Naruto ?

I doubt it
 

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Nope he used both at the same time just pay more attention. Notice swirling motion around both of eyes, that why synchronization of both eyes were such important.

Also is there any proof long range Kamui > sunshin RM Naruto ?

I doubt it
That's the whole point of DMS to use both eyes at the same time... holdup let me scan you up...
 

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not even close. unstabilized ps from Ems madara tanked a bijju dama from full kyuubi, hes stabilized ps is more durable than that, kakashi has rikudous chakra so hes ps>>>Ems madaras so limbo is not bypassing its defense in any way. not to mention it only knocked the beast down and didnt obliterate them in any way.


yes he slices it easily or warps its parts with kamui shuriken. bold is fanfic, no evidence madara can do that and if my scaling memory serves me correctly, isnt the buddha far larger than hes ps? yes it is hence in theory he cant even cloak it as hes soosano is up to buddhas size. so ss is not any doing a thing here and neither is madaras ps which gets sliced.


it does something, it means madara loses.


no madara doesnt dodge it as he hit kaguya when he used it on her and shes far above this madara, madara gets cut in two with it or simply kamuid, limbo cant prevent that.

In this form Madara's PS>>>>EMS Madara's PS due to his Susanoo powered up by Rikudou Chakra and SM.

Madara isn't getting Sniped or teleported due to him Possessing SM which allows him to sense the build up to Kamui or he can just switch with a Limbo Clone.

Madara can just make Wood Clones which allow him to have shared vision so he'll be able to see Kakashi coming so he dodges.
 

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He doesn't need to detect limbo if kamui bypasses it by default. It's like you didn't read my post.

Limbo in no way shape or form stops kamui raikiri.

Kamui bypasses Limbo is based on nothing, nor you said how so in your post for me to read. Too bad it will, because Kamui-Raikiri is not as powerful as Senpō: Jiton Rasengan and Six Paths Chidori needed to paralyse Limbo's movements. And not only that, Double Rinnegan Madara has 5 of them. So yes, it will stop and stop effortlessly.
 

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Kamui bypasses Limbo is based on nothing, nor you said how so in your post for me to read. Too bad it will, because Kamui-Raikiri is not as powerful as Senpō: Jiton Rasengan and Six Paths Chidori needed to paralyse Limbo's movements. And not only that, Double Rinnegan Madara has 5 of them. So yes, it will stop and stop effortlessly.

If limbo can't touch kakashi due to intangibility. .. that means he's bypassing them. It's pretty simple.

Kakashi's isn't aiming to paralyze his movements. Not to mention those techniques were needed 4 JJ Madara. (SM madara got holes put in him by sand alone) so it's irrelevant here.

Kamui raikiri ripped thru kaguya.

Kaguya> JJ Madara> jj obito> obito(tanked executioners blade 0 diff where as Madara got holes put in him from a standard katana)>sm madara durability.

So raikiri rips him a new one.
 
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