How would the plot in The Last be if Hyuga Neji is alive?

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Nothing would have changed
 

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Nothing would change, because the romance director looked at that plot point, looked at Kishimoto, laughed in his face and scrapped it.
 

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The reason The Last happened is because Neji died.If Neji had not died than there would be no movie
 

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The reason The Last happened is because Neji died.If Neji had not died than there would be no movie

OR if Kishimoto did at least half a decent job with handling NH in the manga ...
 

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OR if Kishimoto did at least half a decent job with handling NH in the manga ...

Nah, why do that when he can just do a love line for the lulz. That and I think he's stated he's legitimately embarrassed about writing romance, which isn't that farfetched.
 

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Kishi planned NH from the get go. So that would have happened regardless.
 

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OR if Kishimoto did at least half a decent job with handling NH in the manga ...

Personally after seeing 60% of the movie through camrips I will take manga NH over the movie NH any day
 

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Nah, why do that when he can just do a love line for the lulz. That and I think he's stated he's legitimately embarrassed about writing romance, which isn't that farfetched.

Doubt it.He said he had his characters kiss twice as if they were his own children in the movie.Honestly he knew he fcked up there so came up with this lame excuse

If you cant write romance,dont write it.Look at Oda.The guy is the no.1 mangaka and he doesnt do pairings there and has flat out said no pairings will be done in OP

If you suck at romance AND you still need it to string shippers along that implies you need a fallback point in case your plot deviates to shit and you run a risk of losing readers and hence bad writing
 

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Nah, why do that when he can just do a love line for the lulz. That and I think he's stated he's legitimately embarrassed about writing romance, which isn't that farfetched.

Bullshit. This is the same man who has no problem drawing 12 year old kids transforming into naked guy-guy/girl-girl couples, who has 12 year olds peeping at woman in baths, who makes **** jokes, has Naruto call Sakura a *****, has Naruto try and seduce Bee with a harem, makes the most homoerotic cover pages/speeches/moments of Naruto and sasuke, and yet you expect me to believe that writing a relationship between a pairing he wants to make canon is too embarrassing for him?!

Even If that's the case, and he really DID feel like that, he should NOT HAVE INTRODUCED ANY ROMANTIC SUB PLOTS TO BEGIN WITH. Hinata should NOT have loved Naruto, and Sakura should NOT have loved Sasuke. If he really didn't want to write romance, he should have handled it like OP and DBZ have done. But no, he did introduce the idea, yet half assed it. That's just pathetic.
 

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Personally after seeing 60% of the movie through camrips I will take manga NH over the movie NH any day

Same. Though it's not like the manga depiction of their relationship is less shittier than the movie's.
 

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Doubt it.He said he had his characters kiss twice as if they were his own children in the movie.Honestly he knew he fcked up there so came up with this lame excuse

If you cant write romance,dont write it.Look at Oda.The guy is the no.1 mangaka and he doesnt do pairings there.

If you suck at romance AND you still need it to string shippers along that implies you need a fallback point in case your plot deviates to shit and you run a risk of losing readers and hence bad writing

Well, he sure strung you along pretty bad. It's all you seem to talk about. Every bad thing about Naruto and Hinata, and for that matter Sakura and Sasuke, can be simply explained by an out of universe reason. He didn't show any mutual love for any characters because of his first editor telling him to include a love triangle. That godawful 2 year timeskip in the movie is explained by Kishimoto wanting his characters to be over 18 before they were shown in any serious romantically charged scenes. People need to face the reality that the romance in this series just served as a tool to incite drama and in the very end was hastily resolved to give him the children for the next generation. It's painfully obvious he had these pairings mapped out from the start, but he chose not to mutually develop them. Oh well. Move on.
 

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Bullshit. This is the same man who has no problem drawing 12 year old kids transforming into naked guy-guy/girl-girl couples, who has 12 year olds peeping at woman in baths, who makes **** jokes, has Naruto call Sakura a *****, has Naruto try and seduce Bee with a harem, makes the most homoerotic cover pages/speeches/moments of Naruto and sasuke, and yet you expect me to believe that writing a relationship between a pairing he wants to make canon is too embarrassing for him?!

Let's not forget about having Naruto transform into a bunch of naked guys and seduce his ancestor. While getting Sakura wet in the process. Lol
 
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Bullshit. This is the same man who has no problem drawing 12 year old kids transforming into naked guy-guy/girl-girl couples, who has 12 year olds peeping at woman in baths, who makes **** jokes, has Naruto call Sakura a *****, has Naruto try and seduce Bee with a harem, makes the most homoerotic cover pages/speeches/moments of Naruto and sasuke, and yet you expect me to believe that writing a relationship between a pairing he wants to make canon is too embarrassing for him?!

Even If that's the case, and he really DID feel like that, he should NOT HAVE INTRODUCED ANY ROMANTIC SUB PLOTS TO BEGIN WITH. Hinata should NOT have loved Naruto, and Sakura should NOT have loved Sasuke. If he really didn't want to write romance, he should have handled it like OP and DBZ have done. But no, he did introduce the idea, yet half assed it. That's just pathetic.

Is any of that stuff you described serious, or is it a joke?
 

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The reason The Last happened is because Neji died.If Neji had not died than there would be no movie

Nah, the same could happen, only Neji would be there too.

Why? Because according to the spoilers Neji wasn't mentioned in the movie, only a picture about him was shown by Hanabi. So the director didn't put that part into the movie, maybe just the hand holding (which became Naruto's and Hinata's "love trademark" since chapter 615).
 

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the plot will not change
 

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Nothing..... If Sasuke had like 30 seconds then what would Neji do? :|
 
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