Could Sasuke/Madara Use Rasenshuriken?

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Ten years! Damn, Lol. The sad truth is, even if they learn it they won't be able to use it unless they learn sage mode otherwise they'll be damaging their hand and won't be able to mould chakra anymore XD.

Naruto two years later can now use Rasen-shuriken variants in his basemode.

Actually in the movie they didn't even explode on contact, so who the hell knows what type of chakra manipulation he mastered.
 

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Bahahaa, yeah there's that too. But they might be able to use it regardless. Naruto in the last was throwing them in base like it was nothing.

Oh yeah, though they'd probably need a another 3-5 years to be able to do that.
 

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Bahahaa, yeah there's that too. But they might be able to use it regardless. Naruto in the last was throwing them in base like it was nothing.

That just shows with hard-work and determination you can do anything (Or Naruto can lmao).
I think that's a feat of his own, being able to pull a rasenshuriken in base-mode. Who knows
 

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Oh yeah, though they'd probably need a another 3-5 years to be able to do that.

I think that all depends on their physical strength. Madara has showcased some impressive strength feats and Adult Sasuke logically should be similar to him in that regard.
 

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I think that all depends on their physical strength. Madara has showcased some impressive strength feats and Adult Sasuke logically should be similar to him in that regard.

True, true, but i doubt they would want to learn a technique that takes 10 years to learn anyway XD/

Naruto two years later can now use Rasen-shuriken variants in his basemode.

Actually in the movie they didn't even explode on contact, so who the hell knows what type of chakra manipulation he mastered.


Probably mastered it, so in total Madara and Sasuke would need 12 years to use and master rasenshuriken XD.
 

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Being a genius doesn't really matter. Sure they can understand the technique better than most, but actually learning it is an entirely different scenario. Neither have been known for their precise chakra control either, only strong chakra which makes using techniques cost less chakra. And I don't really consider Madara a genius. Sasuke more so.

Madara was said to he a prodigy as a kid,somewhere in the beginning of that flashback,and Tobirama called Sasuke a prodigy like Madara.



Merging the Bijuus chakra required precise chakra control.


I believe merging all the Bijuus chakra would be harder than applying wind elemnt to the Rasengan.
 

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Naruto is a genius in his own category sometimes, and Rasenshuriken is one of them.
Rasengan is something acheivable through a shinobi with potent skills, but Rasen-shuriken is on a level of it's own. Hence why Kakashi/Minato/and Jiraiya (amma add him there cause he mastered the original version) couldn't apply element natures to it.


There are lots of things only Naruto can do, but there are also lots of things only Sasuke can do.

This being one of them, imo.

That reminds me,Chidori was based off of Rasengan/RS.Kakashi made it since he couldn't combine his lightning style with Rasengan.

At 13,Sasuke,developed his lightning style enough to master the Chidori in a month,and that was his first time ever using Lightning style.

Chidori is one step ahead of Rasengan,sinceit adds in a Nature element rather than only use chakra.So being able to use Wind Style with the Rinnegan,Sasuke would probably be able to master RS in a month at the latest.
 

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That reminds me,Chidori was based off of Rasengan/RS.Kakashi made it since he couldn't combine his lightning style with Rasengan.

At 13,Sasuke,developed his lightning style enough to master the Chidori in a month,and that was his first time ever using Lightning style.

Chidori is one step ahead of Rasengan,sinceit adds in a Nature element rather than only use chakra.So being able to use Wind Style with the Rinnegan,Sasuke would probably be able to master RS in a month at the latest.

Not really, Rasengan and Chidori are two complete different things, Rasengan is a physical-form of chakra with no added elements or anything. Chidori was created as a physical form of lightning chakra from the start, the difference is Kakashi found it harder to add his own element into an already created jutsu than it was to just create a new jutsu. The only one so far who knows Rasengan and was able to add his own element to it is Naruto, and that was only because he used nearly 1,000 clones or so to do it within 3 days or something. Not to mention Sasuke needs to actually learn Rasengan, Kakashi didn't copy Rasengan from Minato, he learned it. Which means Sasuke needs to spend 3 years to learn Rasengan and he would need another 4-5 years at the least to be able to add in the wind element. Unless Sasuke can continuously use 1,000 clones or so to finish it up in 3 days.
 

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they sure can. sasuke and madara have been granted the access to using 5 nature elements by the rinnegan.

they only need to see naruto perform rasenshuriken few times, and train it. even kakashi needed training before he could make a rasengan

the training sessions tho, would take a lot of time. first, they've got to learn performing rasengan, and when they completely can, train to perform rasenshuriken. wont be easy but yeah they sure can.
 
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I have my own personal opinion, but I'd like to know what others believe. Kakashi, a known fodder, has been shown to copy the Rasengan with ease.

Thank you, still laughing at this while typing. I mean, i'm a Kakashi fan, but the way you casually slipped that in is just priceless.

OT: Yeah, they probably can, though they never will - that's someone else's trademark jutsu.
 

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Yes,they can,based on logic/the manga.Although i think it will be hard,maybe.
Sasuke fappers are very sensitive.they want to add everything in sasuke's arsenal in order to make him look stronger than naruto.

OT:
No sasuke cant learn it.Sasuke is not the type to learn new things by training.He cant learn FRS as it takes too much time to learn it and Sasuke lacks enough chakra.

No matter what do you say/write,Sasuke always be inferior to naruto Lol
 

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Anyone can technically learn it. How fast though is a different matter.
 

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They have to learn it from somebody.

Kakashi learned rasengan from Minato
Naruto learned rasengan from jiraiya
 

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they can if they trained to use it copy no
 

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He can learn it but it will be a completely whole level below Naruto's. Remember u need the stamina and strength to actually maintain the rotation and be able to throw it. RS is condensed mass of chakra so it's very heavy, you need the body strength for it to be on Naruto's level.. :p
 

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Every Dojutsu does that allows someone to see chakra, and no idea what you mean by amount/ratio. Kakashi also never had a chance to train his sharingan, yet he used PS perfectly first chance he got.

Because he copied Sasuke's usage with the Sharingan.

Copying techniques was one of the very first Sharingan tech known.

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1. No evidence he copied Rasengan.

2. Not a chance.
 

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Sasuke fappers are very sensitive.they want to add everything in sasuke's arsenal in order to make him look stronger than naruto.

OT:
No sasuke cant learn it.Sasuke is not the type to learn new things by training.He cant learn FRS as it takes too much time to learn it and Sasuke lacks enough chakra.

No matter what do you say/write,Sasuke always be inferior to naruto Lol

This wasn't about Naruto Vs Sasuke.It was whether Sasuke AND MADARA can learn Rasengan and Rasenshuriken.Funny how you ignore MADARA and decide to attack Sasuke.Looks like you're sensitive about Sasuke.

Sasuke can use PS with ease yet he doesn't have enough chakra do RS?What is RS? Rasengan with Wind Element added to it.Chidori was made based off the Rasengan.Kakashi couldn't add his Lightning Element to his Rasengan so he made Chidori.

Rasengan is made from chakra,no element added,Chidori already mixes chakra with an element,lightning. Rasengan is chakra with an element,wind.

Sasuke has the Rinnegan which allows the user to use and master all the basic nature elements. Sasuke already has most of the process of RS understood via Chidori,which is chakra with nature element added.

So what he would need to do is add wind element to it,which shouldn't take long considering he's a genuis,has seen Naruto use it many times,and was easily able to adapt his Enton to perfectly match the chakra output of Rasengan,in seconds while he was running in battle.




Madara could learn it to since he has the Rinnegan to be able to use the Wind Element,but Sasuke will more likely be able to master it faster considering his expereinces with mastering the Chidori and seeing Naruto use Rasengan and RS alot.
Not really, Rasengan and Chidori are two complete different things, Rasengan is a physical-form of chakra with no added elements or anything. Chidori was created as a physical form of lightning chakra from the start, the difference is Kakashi found it harder to add his own element into an already created jutsu than it was to just create a new jutsu. The only one so far who knows Rasengan and was able to add his own element to it is Naruto, and that was only because he used nearly 1,000 clones or so to do it within 3 days or something. Not to mention Sasuke needs to actually learn Rasengan, Kakashi didn't copy Rasengan from Minato, he learned it. Which means Sasuke needs to spend 3 years to learn Rasengan and he would need another 4-5 years at the least to be able to add in the wind element. Unless Sasuke can continuously use 1,000 clones or so to finish it up in 3 days.

I already know he didn't copy it.Read around the thread.I'm not going to type the same thing to different people.Read whay i said to Darth on the prevoius page.
 
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This wasn't about Naruto Vs Sasuke.It was whether Sasuke AND MADARA can learn Rasengan and Rasenshuriken.Funny how you ignore MADARA and decide to attack Sasuke.Looks like you're sensitive about Sasuke.

Sasuke can use PS with ease yet he doesn't have enough chakra do RS?What is RS? Rasengan with Wind Element added to it.Chidori was made based off the Rasengan.Kakashi couldn't add his Lightning Element to his Rasengan so he made Chidori.

Rasengan is made from chakra,no element added,Chidori already mixes chakra with an element,lightning. Rasengan is chakra with an element,wind.

Sasuke has the Rinnegan which allows the user to use and master all the basic nature elements. Sasuke already has most of the process of RS understood via Chidori,which is chakra with nature element added.

So what he would need to do is add wind element to it,which shouldn't take long considering he's a genuis,has seen Naruto use it many times,and was easily able to adapt his Enton to perfectly match the chakra output of Rasengan,in seconds while he was running in battle.




Madara could learn it to since he has the Rinnegan to be able to use the Wind Element,but Sasuke will more likely be able to master it faster considering his expereinces with mastering the Chidori and seeing Naruto use Rasengan and RS alot.


I already know he didn't copy it.Read around the thread.I'm not going to type the same thing to different people.Read whay i said to Darth on the prevoius page.

Umm wrong. Chidori and rasengan are vastly different in the amount of shape manipulation they require. Despite the fact chidori requires both elemental and spatial recompostion, they're both classed as A class jutsus. That should tell you a bit about the level of shape manipulation required to form and maintain a rasengan. In theory Sasuke could learn it, and eventually learn a rashenshuriken as well. But he'll have to train a lot for it. Also am not entirely sure he can learn RS seeing as he doesnt have the kyubi to heal him from its effects.
 

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Bahahaa, yeah there's that too. But they might be able to use it regardless. Naruto in the last was throwing them in base like it was nothing.

Bare in mijd he is an exceptional being, not a run of the mill, considering he has the Sages Sons xhakra, Tailed beast chakra--and SM.

Also dat wind preferance nature.
 
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