Can you FTG or Reverse summon yourself out of Kamuiland?

[BenjerminGaye]

@Drapshin and his kamui wank to max!!!

- SAsuke summons eagle

- Rikudou and Kage summon all of them back


And this boy thinks Kamui is somehow better and stronger than Kaguya's dimension, when that ability makes Kamui look like a sissy shit.


Again, FTG is Minato summoning himself to the seal, stop comparing it to the chakra cloak. And which moment of chakra cloak are you talking about anyway? When Obito took KAkashi to the kamui land? Don't know if you paid much attention to the scan, but Kakashi had lost the cloak before he went to kamuiland.. he actually lost it when Obito touched him.

The cloak dosen't leave.
Minato clearly states ftg mechanics.
Thus kakashi should have jumped with minato's ftg.

 

[KingHashirama]

The cloak dosen't leave.
Minato clearly states ftg mechanics.
Thus kakashi should have jumped with minato's ftg.

Minato states, them so does Kishimoto.

Furthermore, please do reread, the cloak does leave the moment Obito touches him, second row, right panel. Kakashi's cloak is gone even though hes still in the normal world.

Minato states, for him to teleport others, they must be touched with his chakra..

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Minato states, them so does Kishimoto.

Furthermore, please do reread, the cloak does leave the moment Obito touches him, second row, right panel. Kakashi's cloak is gone even though hes still in the normal world.

Minato states, for him to teleport others, they must be touched with his chakra..

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IT DOSEN'T DISSAPPEAR.

Minato teleported everyone connected to naruto's chakra yet kakashi got left despite being connected.

 

[Draphsin]

@Drapshin and his kamui wank to max!!!

Hahaha! You crack me up you know that?

- SAsuke summons eagle

- Rikudou and Kage summon all of them back

Kaguya's dimension =/= kamui dimension, get that through your skull.

And this boy thinks Kamui is somehow better and stronger than Kaguya's dimension, when that ability makes Kamui look like a sissy shit.

Just because you can leave kaguya's dimension via summoning doesn't mean that kamui is "better" or "stronger", get that through your skull too.

Was kaguya's dimension ever stated no be separate from other s/t jutsus like kamui was? No, then reverse summoning should work. FTG has been attempted & failed inside the dimension & kamui has been explicitly stated to be separate from other s/t jutsus, this proves you wrong.

Again, FTG is Minato summoning himself to the seal, stop comparing it to the chakra cloak.

Again, what on earth do you think the seal is made out of? Or what do you think the seal is even sealing? It's minato's chakra, not pixie dust.

And which moment of chakra cloak are you talking about anyway? When Obito took KAkashi to the kamui land? Don't know if you paid much attention to the scan, but Kakashi had lost the cloak before he went to kamuiland.. he actually lost it when Obito touched him.

Smh, that doesn't mean anything, the entire SA lost the cloak & naruto gave it back to them remotely. [

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] Did kakashi get that same treatment despite being given some of naruto's chakra? No, therefore there is no chakra connection to be had in the dimension [unless you think that one kamui warp was enough to use up all the chakra in the cloak, which is outright ridiculous].

 

[Ansatsuken]

Kamui is personal dimension while Kaguya dimensions is not personal dimensions,

That mean Kaguya dimensions rule cant been applied to Kamui dimension

Kamui is like imaginary dimension that own by Obito kamui only but Kaguya dimensions is actully a real places in different part of worlds

There is no world that looks like to abstract as Obito dimension in Kaguya land and anywhere else in NV. That the prooof that this dimension is not related to earth or any dimension in part of other worlds or dimensions

I hope it help to understand about Kamui land

 

[KingHashirama]

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IT DOSEN'T DISSAPPEAR.

Minato teleported everyone connected to naruto's chakra yet kakashi got left despite being connected.

- talks about Kakashi's cloak...

- shows me a scan of the alliance's cloak

Very good sir.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

- talks about Kakashi's cloak...

- shows me a scan of the alliance's cloak

Very good sir.

So we're just looking at the pictures in the scan instead of reading the speech bubbles that accompany it.
Want some Crayola's so you can color it?

 

[KingHashirama]

Hahaha! You crack me up you know that?



Kaguya's dimension =/= kamui dimension, get that through your skull.



Just because you can leave kaguya's dimension via summoning doesn't mean that kamui is "better" or "stronger", get that through your skull too.

Was kaguya's dimension ever stated no be separate from other s/t jutsus like kamui was? No, then reverse summoning should work. FTG has been attempted & failed inside the dimension & kamui has been explicitly stated to be separate from other s/t jutsus, this proves you wrong.



Again, what on earth do you think the seal is made out of? Or what do you think the seal is even sealing? It's minato's chakra, not pixie dust.



Smh, that doesn't mean anything, the entire SA lost the cloak & naruto gave it back to them remotely. [

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No dude, get it through your head. "Kamui's ability", is simply Kaguya's ability shrunk down. Do you comprehend that sir? You are trying to make Obito's ability into something grand when its not.. sorry.

So you are saying Kaguya's dimension technique = same as any other s/t jutsu technique dimensions? What? where the f*ck are you getting this crap from? loll.. FTG has no connection with Kaguya's dimensions.. Summoning jutsu has no connection with Kaguya's dimension (unless you can prove it otherwise).. Because they don't need to. Both of those jutsus break the space wall/barrier where ever the hell they are.

yea nice.. only issue is Kakashi was never connected with Minato's chakra.. he was connected with Naruto's, which he lost the moment Obito touched him while he was in the normal world. So come again. You tried to claim some BS about Kakashi losing it after he entered Kamui land.. which was false.. and now you are saying it would've deserved the same treatment.. only issue is, how?

Do you know if Naruto can keep his chakra cloak up when someone is thousands of miles away ? no...You don't even know the distance. To claim NAruto can still do the samething to people who are FAR AWAY like hell, without any proof is just retarded.

Did Obito's kamui connect with Kaguya's jutsu or not? of course it did, because they are initially the same types of jutsu.

So we're just looking at the pictures in the scan instead of reading the speech bubbles that accompany it.
Want some Crayola's so you can color it?

Do you need a english teacher to come help you understand , that your argument doesn't connect?

- Did those guys get there chakra taken away by Obito? hmm did they? no.

Furthermore, do you have no proof Naruto can do the samething to people who are lets say on the opposite side of the world? hmm no of course you don't.

 

[KidGamer65]

Reverse Summoning? Going by Sasuke being able to summon a hawk from one dimension into a separate one, it's possible that summoning can get someone out of Kamui Land. Hiraishin? Nope.

 

[Draphsin]

I thought that I should go easy on you instead of just sh*tting on your posts, terrible mistake on my part. U_U

No dude, get it through your head. "Kamui's ability", is simply Kaguya's ability Do you comprehend that sir? shrunk down.

Prove it.

You are trying to make Obito's ability into something grand when its not.. sorry.

Are you actually f*cking retarded? Are you? How the hell does this make kamui "grand"? Your ignorant bullsh*t is appalling.

So you are saying Kaguya's dimension technique = same as any other s/t jutsu technique dimensions? What? where the f*ck are you getting this crap from?

Kaguya's dimension can be exited/entered through the use of s/t jutsus because you can still establish a chakra connection. Obito's dimension is sealed so no chakra connection can be made & no other s/t jutsus can escape it. It was never once stated in the manga that kaguya's dimension is exclusive & separate from other s/t jutsus, hence why you can leave by using them.

loll.. FTG has no connection with Kaguya's dimensions.. Summoning jutsu has no connection with Kaguya's dimension (unless you can prove it otherwise).. Because they don't need to.

Moron, the seal stores minato's chakra, minato can access that connection through kaguya's dimensions because it was never stated or shown that you can't.

Minato has no damn connection with kaguya's dimension, rather the connection to his seals isn't disrupted like how it would be in the kamui dimension.

Both of those jutsus break the space wall/barrier where ever the hell they are.

Kaguya's jutsu can be accessed via other s/t jutsus, kamui can only be accessed via kamui.

yea nice.. only issue is Kakashi was never connected with Minato's chakra.. he was connected with Naruto's, which he lost the moment Obito touched him while he was in the normal world.

Stop being an idiot, naruto connected minato's chakra with his own. Proof is in the fact that the chakra cloak in the scan I provided was stronger than before, & in the fact that minato was able to directly teleport the SA after naruto made the connection. Kakashi never lost the chakra cloak, that's a retarded assertion to make, just because the cloak wasn't visible doesn't mean he didn't have the chakra.

The scan I provided your stupid ass clearly shows us this, kakashi had naruto's chakra, therefore minato should've been able to connect to him, but he didn't.

So come again. You tried to claim some BS about Kakashi losing it after he entered Kamui land.. which was false..

Way to go misinterpreting sh*t. Just because the chakra cloak isn't visible anymore doesn't mean he didn't have it at he time he got warped. The fact that naruto couldn't connect to the chakra he sent kakashi is proof that there is no connection, now wipe the jizz from your moth & then come join us back on planet earth.

and now you are saying it would've deserved the same treatment.. only issue is, how?

Naruto gave him chakra, naruto couldn't connect to that chakra, therefore kakashi couldn't teleport. It's f*cking basic.

Do you know if Naruto can keep his chakra cloak up when someone is thousands of miles away ? no...You don't even know the distance. To claim NAruto can still do the samething to people who are FAR AWAY like hell, without any proof is just retarded.

Lol Sorry bro but the burden of proof is on you, as far as the manga shows us naruto can connect to any cloak he desires no matter the location. [

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] & To make it even worse for you, with this stupid logic shadow clones would have a specific range as well, lmao.

Did Obito's kamui connect with Kaguya's jutsu or not? of course it did, because they are initially the same types of jutsu.

No, obito's kamui connected to kaguya's dimension because any s/t jutsu can be used to leave & enter it. The manga told us that kamui is separate from other s/t jutsus, that doesn't stop it from having the ability to teleport wherever the user wishes though. Obito used kamui to leave the pure world, meaning it can be used to enter & leave kaguya's dimension provided he keeps the portal open.

& Again I say, prove that kamui & kaguya's dimension are similar because all I hear from you is grade-A nonsense.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Do you need a english teacher to come help you understand , that your argument doesn't connect?

- Did those guys get there chakra taken away by Obito? hmm did they? no.

Scans of obito taking away ANYONE'S chakra. He can't use petra. And he doesn't have a jutsu in his arsenal that takes chakra. So stop asking bullsh¡t questions.

Furthermore, do you have no proof Naruto can do the samething to people who are lets say on the opposite side of the world? hmm no of course you don't.

since when was ftg limited by distance? Since when was chakra cloaks limited by distance?They function equal to that of shadow clones. Them having limits would imply that shadow clone has limits.


What?

 

[Bronze]

Kaguya's ''dimensions'' don't really fit to the description of an actual dimension. It seems more of a world connected to the NV on a different plane, but it is not a separated one. In fact, it can proven when Tobirama and Hiruzen could sense her Chakra from her dimension, yet Karin can't sense Chakra presence when teleported to the Kamui-land. That being said, nothing can come out of the Kamui-land, because it is a space-time separated from everything else, and thus teleporting out of it is impossible; Kakashi made it clear. [

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Not to mention if Obito knew FTG or Reverse Summoning could teleport out of the Kamui-land, he would not have wasted his time wrapping Minato and knowing he could get out. The answer is no.

 

[Demonic.]

Stop being close-minded, obito nearly warped minato away if not for prep, under certain conditions kamui alone can deal with FTG, it's when an FTG user has full info on kamui that it becomes a problem.

Not to mention obito has plenty of other ways to deal with his opponent, & kamui is still a great defense that a FTG user can't bypass if obito doesn't charge them head on.

Minato already beat Obito with no intel bruh. And technically, Minato always has prep. His markings never disappear he can always warp away.

If you're talking about a vs section with no prepped markings allowed then yeah, Obito has a chance with no intel on Kamui.

 

[Angelic.]

Scans of obito taking away ANYONE'S chakra. He can't use petra. And he doesn't have a jutsu in his arsenal that takes chakra. So stop asking bullsh¡t questions.

since when was ftg limited by distance? Since when was chakra cloaks limited by distance?They function equal to that of shadow clones. Them having limits would imply that shadow clone has limits.


What?

then what did he use on madara to take his bijuu and senjutsu chakra?

Kaguya's ''dimensions'' don't really fit to the description of an actual dimension. It seems more of a world connected to the NV on a different plane, but it is not a separated one. In fact, it can proven when Tobirama and Hiruzen could sense her Chakra from her dimension, yet Karin can't sense Chakra presence when teleported to the Kamui-land. That being said, nothing can come out of the Kamui-land, because it is a space-time separated from everything else, and thus teleporting out of it is impossible; Kakashi made it clear. [

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Not to mention if Obito knew FTG or Reverse Summoning could teleport out of the Kamui-land, he would not have wasted his time wrapping Minato and knowing he could get out. The answer is no.

tobirama sensed a massive chakra but it dissapeared.

 

[Draphsin]

Minato already beat Obito with no intel bruh. And technically, Minato always has prep. His markings never disappear he can always warp away.

If you're talking about a vs section with no prepped markings allowed then yeah, Obito has a chance with no intel on Kamui.

Yeah, I was referring to your second sentence.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

then what did he use on madara to take his bijuu and senjutsu chakra?



tobirama sensed a massive chakra but it dissapeared.

He only got bijuu and it was the equivalent of what naruto and sasuke did to him when he himself was a jin, or better yet. He did it through bz. Seeing as how bz itself turned into his so6p staff.

 

[Demonic.]

He only got bijuu and it was the equivalent of what naruto and sasuke did to him when he himself was a jin, or better yet. He did it through bz. Seeing as how bz itself turned into his so6p staff.

Tell that to that retard Variaboss that thinks it's Preta Path lmao

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Tell that to that retard Variaboss that thinks it's Preta Path lmao

Petra changes the chakra into your own. Sasuke didn't gain kurama when he took Kurama's energy.
Petra path didn't gain sage chakra when absorbing naruto/jman's attacks.
nagato didn't turn into a jin when absorbing v2 bee.

 

[Demonic.]

Petra changes the chakra into your own. Sasuke didn't gain kurama when he took Kurama's energy.
Petra path didn't gain sage chakra when absorbing naruto/jman's attacks.

Don't need to tell me. Variaboss thinks Obito can use rinnegan techniques without the Rinnegan. He says Blind Madz used Preta when he stole Hashirama's senjutsu.

You ask him for proof, he posts the same old scan of Madara telling Obito " I will teach you the six paths jutsu"

I find it hilarious is all.

 

[Angelic.]

He only got bijuu and it was the equivalent of what naruto and sasuke did to him when he himself was a jin, or better yet. He did it through bz. Seeing as how bz itself turned into his so6p staff.

i agree on the bijuu but bz was on his left half not in madara. idk perhaps its his own uchiha senju body then