Time skip Sasuke is a lot stronger than Time skip Naruto ?

[Garfield01]

So ignorant.

1. You call plot hole simply because it goes against your little Madara Lol. Naruto was already said to have the most powerful Senjutsu in the manga, meaning his sensing is by far the best. You just don't want to admit it. And how many times does the manga have to stipulate that Limbo's cannot use jutsu, besides the use of Taijutsu? If that was so, Madara's Limbo clones would have done so against Naruto's clones to win, but instead they stalemated. Limbo is an equalizing ability, but Naruto's sensing counteracts it. To deny this would be going against what the manga showed us.

2. Madara already proved that you can't use Preta while you use Susano'o. I'm too lazy and hard pressed to find the scan, but when he let Ohonki hit him with Jinton, he was trying to get out of the way of the Gokage's combined attack, saying he wanted to absorb it, which is why he was trying to get outside of Susano'o; you can't absorb while inside Susano'o. Absorbing a TBB? Remind me how long it would take to absorb something so abnormally large. Shinra Tensei deflects one and then during the cool down Naruto fires another. What now?

3. Not conclusive at all. Sasuke has nothing to put Naruto down even with consecutive uses. He couldn't even pierce Naruto with a direct Chidori which is his main CQC move.

4. Exactly... So if Sasuke doesn't have the Bijuu, he's not winning here. You just further proved my point.

5. Sure it does. His avatar grows in size, he gets more chakra (doubled), his TBB's will be much stronger (adding Senjutsu as well) AND if you haven't noticed with Jins (mostly Juubi Jins and Naruto is essentially a Pseudo Juubi Jin) the more chakra they have, the faster they are. So Naruto with Full Kurama is logically faster than he is now, which is obscene.

Ignorant? K.

1) Limbo should be able to use the original's techs, since it's simply a kage bunshin created on another paralleling dimension, and also the fact that the user can switch with it. Unless it was stated in clear words that limbo couldn't use much more than taijutsu, it'd be stupid to assume it can't do use the orig's techs. In madara's case he was pretty much nerfed to limbo, if you haven't notice. Since you really don't need both eyes, or any eyes at all to use EMS and Rinnegan. Do you think if madara was going ham mode with his abilities naruto and sasuke would have lived to breed? Anyways, that's a different matter.

2) Madara didn't state such thing. He couldn't use preta because as soon as he absorbed it he'd be paralysed by the lightning that came along with the sand and water dragon, hence he'd be sealed without a problem.

3) As you can see from the scan below, Naruto's chakra avatar isn't completely invincible, since part of its face got demolished

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But here it regenerates due to the load of chakra received from Kurama.

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Therefore meaning its vulnerable to attacks like indra's arrow. Or even Bansho Ten'in and PS sword.


4) You also forget that Sasuke can use Bansho Teni'in and significantly increase the speed of Naruto's TBB, then use Ame to switch places with naruto, turning his own weapon against him. Naruto will not be able to counter that.

5) You should also take notice that Naruto's reaction isn't as good as you hype it to be, since he just about dodge this chidori + Ame combination, and was slightly affected.

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Multiple uses would certainly disorientate Naruto.

6) Naruto's speed is still inferior to Ame's instantaneous speed, which goes to say that when it comes to speed Naruto will be on the defensive. His avatar may double in size, but so will Sasuke's, seeing as Madara's Rinne PS is bigger than his EMS PS.

 

[BLAZE]

ty and itachi solo's :hooray:

:itachi: Flawless

 

[TrollKing]

-Defends Sasuke in a vs. thread-

Instantly a biased wanker."Yawn" What else is new?​

What Naruto gains is pretty irrelevant. He can have as much chakra as he wants. They tied in the first scenario only because of the heavy restrictions set on Sasuke. This isn't wank, it's fact. Naruto may have all the fire power, but Sasuke has all the subtlety and prowess to handle it.. It gives him the win pretty handily in this case.​

I don't disagree with this.​

Remind where I asserted he would be using Susano'o when or if he used it. Fact is he can simply tank it with Susano'o.​

The avatars only made an appearance because Kishi needed them to. How else can he show them as equal when without Sasuke wasting chakra and time on it, he negs?​

I didn't forget, but I won't argue the point simply to save time.​

So Naruto is going to kill himself? That's the only option here. Naruto is the core, and the only way to stop CT is to destroy it.​

You didn't even address how he would break CT when he's the core.

I'm waiting. ​

I'd like to see Naruto stop it in either the CT scenario or the genjutsu one. Lol​

@bold Well, I try.

And yes, I'm serious.​

Except that you didn't address it at all. You merely said he could break it without explaining how. lol Chidori isn't denting him? Disagreed a nice one through the heart is GG. Not to mention he can just let Naruto suffocate.​

I'm not conceding. Sasuke was nerfed. Does it matter? No. I'm fine with the tie, just as long as it's clear who actually wins.​

You mean in order for naruto to survive ct, he has to self destruct?? XD

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

sasuke has itachi's eyes, naruto has kurama

Do Itachi's eyes talk to him,give him advice,and load up chakra for him as he fights? Naruto has an actual living being helping him in battle,not just his chakra.

People mistaken the talent/potential of bijuus is naruto's talent/potential. But then them bijuus have no talent nor potential at all. They are sold as it is XD

If the Bijuus are part of Naruto's power then how come some people love to point out how Sasuke used the Bijuus power for a few pages,yet those same people don't mention how Naruto is always using the Kyuubi's power and literally has him help in battle.

It's like for Sasuke they acknowledge that the Bijuus are another living entity,but for Naruto they don't and don't point that out.

he absorbed the tailed beast to boost his susano'o and still didn't with against naruto with kurama only Lol

The Kyuubi was constantly gathering and giving Naruto NE throughout the battle,even while Sasuke didn't have the Bijuus chakra.If Naruto just had the Kyuubi's chakra then Sasuke would have easily won,and who was loading and giving Sasuke chakra as he fights?

THE GUY WHO NEEDED ANOTHER POWER UP AND STILL LOST? LOL!

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Naruto didn't get a power up? Getting all the NE above ground is not a power up? And having the Kyuubi gather and give chakra to him isn't much help whereas Sasuke has no one loading up and giving chakra to him as he fights.And the battle was a draw,or was Naruto able to get up and walk around afterwards?

Sasuke was always stronger sure...tell me how it went in chapter 698...

Naruto,instead of only having the Kyuubi's chakra,he had the actual guy constantly helping him out,which made the battle end as a draw.

You mean Saskue with bijuu chakra that lost to exhausted Naruto without killing intent? Yeah, never.

Funny how you mention Naruto being exhausted but not Naruto,and read below.

You forgot to add.
Sasuke was fighting toe to toe with Naruto + 9 Tailed Beast chakra vs. Naruto + Half Kurama

Yes,Naruto didn't use the other Bijuus chakra he had even though he completely ran out of chakra.

Naruto also had Yin Kyuubi help him fight.Having a living entity actually help you in battle is more helpful than just having their chakra.If Naruto just had his chakra then he wouldn't have anyone constantly gathering and giving him chakra as he fights.

Yes Sasuke had chakra from 9 Bijuus for a few pages,but Naruto had the Kyuubi gather chakra for him most of the battle,including when Sasuke had little to no chakra left.

You couldn't even answer my question correctly.
Naruto absorbed the tailed beast chakra, we already said this and three other people quoted you with the same response. Trying to hide your fails Lol?

OH! Naruto beat Sasuke because of Kurama? Tell me how Sasuke was going to beat Naruto without stealing the power of 9 tailed beasts. Kid, keep on trying, cause your just not there yet ~

The battle was a draw,and if Naruto just has the Kyuubi's chakra rather than the actual guy constantly gathering and giving him chakra throughout the battle then he would have lost.

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

:itachi: Flawless

action is starting again

 

[Transcendence]

The arguments in this thread are giving me ulcers. Plot protection? Nerfing? Is that all you people can come up with?

And Awkward Linguist, I've already addressed your biased points. Limbo cannot use jutsu. Get over it.

 

[Trúth]

You mean in order for naruto to survive ct, he has to self destruct?? XD

He doesn't survive it.​

The arguments in this thread are giving me ulcers. Plot protection? Nerfing? Is that all you people can come up with?

That doesn't even make up a quarter, of either of my posts but I understand that you need to say this to save face.

Concession accepted.​

 

[Garfield01]

The arguments in this thread are giving me ulcers. Plot protection? Nerfing? Is that all you people can come up with?

And Awkward Linguist, I've already addressed your biased points. Limbo cannot use jutsu. Get over it.

I don't see how I'm being biased at all. Be a bit more respectful and take the time to reply properly just as I have.​

 

[TrollKing]

That's exactly what I'm saying.​

That doesn't even make up a quarter of either of my posts but I understand that you need to say this to save face.

Concession accepted.​

Now I agree naruto can solo ct any day

 

[Transcendence]

That's exactly what I'm saying.​

That doesn't even make up a quarter of either of my posts but I understand that you need to say this to save face.

Concession accepted.​

You didn't even address half of what I said. Literally half of what you said was "Sasuke was nerfed and they tied" without taking into account that Naruto was drained and fought more of the war and he was restricted from using the Bijuu's chakra because Sasuke had them in a Genjutsu. Your arguments are poor and I have no time or energy to constantly argue semantics when all you say is "Naruto will have to nuke himself within the CT" even though anybody with half a brain knows Naruto can easily overpower the force of the CT coming down on him.

 

[Trúth]

Now I agree naruto can solo ct any day

I misread your post. Naruto has no chance of surviving it it at all.​

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

I misread your post. Naruto has no chance of surviving it it at all.​

ROFL, Ct is childsplay for naruto.

 

[vaishakh01]

I misread your post. Naruto has no chance of surviving it it at all.​

He can use reverse summoning to get out before all the debris can hit him and CB has got a limited range so he can get out it quite easily

 

[TrollKing]

I misread your post. Naruto has no chance of surviving it it at all.​

Naruto still solo ct any day

 

[Transcendence]

ROFL, Ct is childsplay for naruto.

There's literally no point in even trying to address that to him.

He's under the impression someone who is tiers above the Bijuu in power can't break out or resist CT when Yang Kurama was resisting Genjutsu and partially breaking out of the CT. This is someone with the Yang power of the Juubi (Rikudou Senjutsu of the highest degree) and half Kurama. To say that he can't break out or simply blow it back is fruitless and stupid.

 

[TrollKing]

ROFL, Ct is childsplay for naruto.

Naruto's power lies in all bijuus. Last time I check, all them bijuus got imprisoned by ct extreme neg diff. There's no childplay I see

 

[vaishakh01]

Naruto's power lies in all bijuus. Last time I check, all them bijuus got imprisoned by ct extreme neg diff. There's no childplay I see

They were under gunjutsu otherwise they could've broken out of it easily

 

[lndra]

That's another plot hole for how Kurama managed to do that, the chakra matched or even surpassed Sasuke's supply since even Sasuke noticed the change and asked how he did that





You're really pitiful to argue with, your keep beating around the bush and avoiding my arguments U_U

Sigh you could not get any worse, but you did.
Your argument was invalid and yet you tried to draw Sasuke to the extreme, yet I balanced it out with Naruto. Thus forth you came to acknowledge it and then tried to make someone else look bad, wow.

I really feel sorry for you >w >

 

[Trúth]

ROFL, Ct is childsplay for naruto.

Nope.​

He can use reverse summoning to get out before all the debris can hit him and CB has got a limited range so he can get out it quite easily

What part of he is the core are you not understanding here?​

There's literally no point in even trying to address that to him.

He's under the impression someone who is tiers above the Bijuu in power can't break out or resist CT when Yang Kurama was resisting Genjutsu and partially breaking out of the CT. This is someone with the Yang power of the Juubi (Rikudou Senjutsu of the highest degree) and half Kurama. To say that he can't break out or simply blow it back is fruitless and stupid.

Still waiting for that explanation of how he's breaking the core of CT to stop it when the core is Naruto. Since it's so obvious you should have no trouble explaining.​

You didn't even address half of what I said. Literally half of what you said was "Sasuke was nerfed and they tied" without taking into account that Naruto was drained and fought more of the war and he was restricted from using the Bijuu's chakra because Sasuke had them in a Genjutsu. Your arguments are poor and I have no time or energy to constantly argue semantics when all you say is "Naruto will have to nuke himself within the CT" even though anybody with half a brain knows Naruto can easily overpower the force of the CT coming down on him.

I addressed it all. That didn't make up half of what I said at all. I don't need to take it into account. As I keep saying, naruto can have as much chakra as he wants. It really isn't making any difference unless it's actually his and not being transmitted through bijuu. I'd have to agree, you're arguments are poor or nonexistent, which is why you failed to address either scenarios properly. You actually completely ignored the second. He can overpower the force of CT pushing down on him? Lmafo, please prove to me how he can even move in such a state. Then go ahead and tell me about how Naruto's scream is so powerful he'll suddenly stop being a core of pretty much gravity.​

 

[Itachi of the Uchiha clan]

Nope.​

What part of he is the core are you not understanding here?​

Still waiting for that explanation of how he's breaking the core of CT to stop it when the core is Naruto. Since it's so obvious you should have no trouble explaining.​

I addressed it all. That didn't make up half of what I said at all. I don't need to take it into account. As I keep saying, naruto can have as much chakra as he wants. It really isn't making any difference unless it's actualy his and not being transmitted through bijuu. I'd have to agree, you're arguments are poor or nonexistent, which is why you failed to address either scenarios properly. You actually completely ignored the second. He can overpower the force of CT pushing down on him? Lmafo, please prove to me how he can even move in such a state.​

are you braindead or what?