The closest evidence of Itachi>Obito.

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Well, yeah. If he made it more obvious, we wouldn't be having this discussion. That's why we're relying on hints. And this is a clear hint. With that you agree, right?

I agree with that materials for discussion point

But still cant agree fully on the hints point

That trick is just work as counter measure but not absolute way to counter Obito. But Itachi speak like that to tell Sakura to trust him that he can do something to Obito

For me his trick having 50/50 succesfull rate
 

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I agree with that materials for discussion point

But still cant agree fully on the hints point

That trick is just work as counter measure but not absolute way to counter Obito. But Itachi speak like that to tell Sakura to trust him that he can do something to Obito

For me his trick having 50/50 succesfull rate

It's a difference in opinions. He says he's not all out of options and proceeds to engage in the battle. Logically, it looks like he had a counter or that he could manage his ability. Since it's Itachi, I believe it. If it were anyone else, I'd probably have the same opinion as you.
 

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It's a difference in opinions. He says he's not all out of options and proceeds to engage in the battle. Logically, it looks like he had a counter or that he could manage his ability. Since it's Itachi, I believe it. If it were anyone else, I'd probably have the same opinion as you.

But you know what, this both characters is having very strong plot armoured, just BS way can defeated them.
 

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kamui rustles loudly. ama hasnt killed anyone so it doesnt matter. :)
movie wasnt referenced in the manga. a vague poem about fire doesnt show how.
if he warps it can get him.

As much as it hurts you in the world of Naruto Kishimotos word >>> Your word and any feats of any character

Kishimoto could have Konohamaru slap Madara and it would be fact because its his creation
 

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Not even Kaguya can get past intangibility.

So you think Itachi can?
 

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itachi is overrated

3 tomo sharingan obito is more than enough for itachi

rinnegan obito solos


sage obito = overkill in 1 second​
 

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Not even Kaguya can get past intangibility.

So you think Itachi can?

Obviously. This topic is all about it. I mean, you do see the scene. I doubt anyone can play being that ignorant to it.
 

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I see you don't understand anything at all. Money making doesn't have anything to do with it, you dolt.
Oh really? Kishi didnt hint any kamui counter for itachi to beat Obito in manga, but he couldnt suppress his urges to tell that itachi solos in a movie? Laughable.
I'm using foul language because you asked for it and used it before me. A match up from the movie is no different than the match up on the forum. They're both fantasy.
Obviously rustled since as our debate keeps on you began using it not me :rolleyes:
You think you're giving me heat? With that level of understanding? This is child's play.
There is nothing to understand here. You still grasp on some mythical not proven counter for kamui from fictional itachi that was conjured by naruto's/sakura's dream.
You then keep pushing it as some fact that itachi solos because in your fanboyinsh opinion he can pull it off, while even if the counter for intangibility was to be effective still doesnt mean itachi could beat S/T blitz or obito in general.

I think i understand enough U_U

Obviously. This topic is all about it. I mean, you do see the scene. I doubt anyone can play being that ignorant to it.
Right, no one in manga has any counter, but fictional itachi does, in movie, which isnt cannon and itachi is fruit of third party's mind :rolleyes:


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How about we agree that manga agrees and kishi agrees , even your and mine faves agree that itachi was a failure?
Makes total sense imo!


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Oh really? Kishi didnt hint any kamui counter for itachi to beat Obito in manga, but he couldnt suppress his urges to tell that itachi solos in a movie? Laughable.
Obviously rustled since as our debate keeps on you began using it not me :rolleyes:

There is nothing to understand here. You still grasp on some mythical not proven counter for kamui from fictional itachi that was conjured by naruto's/sakura's dream.
You then keep pushing it as some fact that itachi solos because in your fanboyinsh opinion he can pull it off, while even if the counter for intangibility was to be effective still doesnt mean itachi could beat S/T blitz or obito in general.

I think i understand enough U_U


Right, no one in manga has any counter, but fictional itachi does, in movie, which isnt cannon and itachi is fruit of third party's mind :rolleyes:


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How about we agree that manga agrees and kishi agrees , even your and mine faves agree that itachi was a failure?
Makes total sense imo!


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Why would he? They worked together as opposed in the movie. You're still holding onto the canon stuff. What's laughable is the fact that you oppose the author who wrote the damn thing. Lol

On to the rustling argument, huh? A truly weak and childish outcome in a debate.

Everything is fiction. You still didn't get the "fantasy match" argument. I'm honestly appalled. Nothing is fanboyism here, except maybe that scene. Kishimot must be Itachi's fanboy then. Lol

Still canon, non-canon. You're truly ignorant. Those panels represent Itachis plans in general, you illiterate dolt. It doesn't have anything to do with his ability. Lol
 

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Why would he? They worked together as opposed in the movie. You're still holding onto the canon stuff. What's laughable is the fact that you oppose the author who wrote the damn thing. Lol
Lol right, well almost, itachi was fetching bijuus for Obito and made a weak attempt at killing him and its not like they both knew they were enemies.
Everything is fiction. You still didn't get the "fantasy match" argument. I'm honestly appalled. Nothing is fanboyism here, except maybe that scene. Kishimot must be Itachi's fanboy then. Lol
I do get it perfectly, that was nothing but small tease and hope for itachi fans. He merely said itachi has some other option, yet the wank comes from you where you imply this option decides anything in their fight:rolleyes:
Still canon, non-canon. You're truly ignorant. Those panels represent Itachis plans in general, you illiterate dolt. It doesn't have anything to do with his ability. Lol
Those panels dont even represent itachi, it's but naruto's wishful thinking :rolleyes:
In other words kishi confirms that it takes fanfic itachi to have some 50/50 shot at Obito lel
You should use word ignorant when you look into mirror :cool:
 

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Lol right, well almost, itachi was fetching bijuus for Obito and made a weak attempt at killing him and its not like they both knew they were enemies.
I do get it perfectly, that was nothing but small tease and hope for itachi fans. He merely said itachi has some other option, yet the wank comes from you where you imply this option decides anything in their fight:rolleyes:

Those panels dont even represent itachi, it's but naruto's wishful thinking :rolleyes:
In other words kishi confirms that it takes fanfic itachi to have some 50/50 shot at Obito lel
You should use word ignorant when you look into mirror :cool:

Irrelevant. Directed approach was never shown.

Or big panic for Obito fans. Like I said, at the end of the day, even in fanfic/non-canon universe, you have Kishimoto's thoughts on their fantasy match. Lol

Nothing is fanfic. Well, maybe fanfic like here in Versus Colosseum. Lol Yes, in that case, it's the same. I'm satisfied as Kishimoto showed his thoughts on their theoretical encounter. Lol That comeback sounds like fresh out of elementary school, good job!
 

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Irrelevant. Directed approach was never shown.
Logically because itachi was useful to Obito while had no power to fight him directly Lol
Or big panic for Obito fans. Like I said, at the end of the day, even in fanfic/non-canon universe, you have Kishimoto's thoughts on their fantasy match. Lol
You problem is that you think this is kishimoto's opinion on whether itachi can beat obito, but in reality you ignore the plot which indicates fictional itachi and the fact that kishi as author has no business wanking this or that character, he merely plays with our minds as any author has to :rolleyes:
Nothing is fanfic. Well, maybe fanfic like here in Versus Colosseum. Lol Yes, in that case, it's the same. I'm satisfied as Kishimoto showed his thoughts on their theoretical encounter. Lol That comeback sounds like fresh out of elementary school, good job!
Keep doing same mistake, you wishfully think its his opinion, but what is the basis for that?
I think you overlook the fact that itachi has higher popularity and it's in kishi's interest to keep fanboys happy, fillers are good for that.
When it comes down to the canon story itachi is left far behind Obito, but you now deny that its kishi's will to portray Obito as superior?
 

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There's no way Itachi defeats Obito.

But by all means tell me how you think Itachi defeats him.​
 

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Logically because itachi was useful to Obito while had no power to fight him directly Lol
You problem is that you think this is kishimoto's opinion on whether itachi can beat obito, but in reality you ignore the plot which indicates fictional itachi and the fact that kishi as author has no business wanking this or that character, he merely plays with our minds as any author has to :rolleyes:

Keep doing same mistake, you wishfully think its his opinion, but what is the basis for that?
I think you overlook the fact that itachi has higher popularity and it's in kishi's interest to keep fanboys happy, fillers are good for that.
When it comes down to the canon story itachi is left far behind Obito, but you now deny that its kishi's will to portray Obito as superior?

That's not logic, mate. That's your assumption made by your fanboyism. Lol

Sure it is. It's not my opinion, it's fact. He made the story. He made it. He did it. Yeah. Lol

Not really. I'm glad Kishimoto made it. Even if he did it "to make fanboys happy", he still did it in a way that Itachi delas with it, in Itachi's favor. That argument doesn't help you, in case you don't get it. I'm glad he made that scene. No, I don't think Obito is superior because Kamui was dealt with pretty easily with intel.

There's no way Itachi defeats Obito.

But by all means tell me how you think Itachi defeats him.​

Kamui isn't unbeatable. Obito's basic overall capability as a shinobi is surely lower than Itachi's. What I mean by that are basic reflexes, reaction speed, overall awareness and sense of the surroundings. Things that are very important here. Itachi can evade it and according to that scene, he also has a counter for it.
 
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@romy.

The only fanboyism present here is of itachi fans.
You wishfully twist words to imply that itachi has some counter.

However, itachi said 'physical attacks don't work, but I'm not out of options'.
Now what is another non physical option itachi has?
Obviously genjutsu, he was hoping tsukuyomi to work.

This thread and the argument you use is pinnacle of desperation of itachi fans.
Twisting words to conjure up some mythical counter no one has while truth is so simple - Obito roflstomps :cool:
 

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@romy.

The only fanboyism present here is of itachi fans.
You wishfully twist words to imply that itachi has some counter.

However, itachi said 'physical attacks don't work, but I'm not out of options'.
Now what is another non physical option itachi has?
Obviously genjutsu, he was hoping tsukuyomi to work.

This thread and the argument you use is pinnacle of desperation of itachi fans.
Twisting words to conjure up some mythical counter no one has while truth is so simple - Obito roflstomps :cool:

I'm not twisting any words. Lol Even people with below-average intelligence can grasp that he has a counter out of that scene. You're in one majestically cluster****ed denial.

Who cares what the other option was? The fact is that he does have an option against Kamui. Lol

Not really. I don't know why this would be a desperation. I just presented a clue. Nobody is twisting words, Kishimoto conjured it up himself, you know, the original author. Stay salty. Lol
 

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If Itachi can beat Obito, why didn't he beat him?
 
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