The closest evidence of Itachi>Obito.

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Itachi was dead so how could he be targeted? :p

Was he? Im sure RtN time line was different, most akatsuki were alive if not all, in fact it starts with akatsuki fight somewhat before IT is used.
 

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Was he? Im sure RtN time line was different, most akatsuki were alive if not all, in fact it starts with akatsuki fight somewhat before IT is used.

Yeah, the akatsuki members were fake made of zetsus transformed if i remember correctly.
 

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Obito himself admitted it:

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Yeah, I'm more sure for a counter than the actual outcome of the battle. But it's enough.

We already saw his counter. That was the amateresu transcription he put into Sasuke's eyes, but as Obito said, "Itachi's failsafe plan only got as far as the fail part"
 

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I already seen your logic, udon negs hashirama GG.

Here we have golden rule, whatever isnt canon is irrelevant.
And since that RtN was about IT (limited thou) where all aside Obito who caused it were living in their fantasy world its no wonder itachi pictures himself with counter for kamui. Catch my drift here? :rolleyes:

You wish haha, see above, but lets not go into filler material or i will start throwing itachi with apron in kitchen around here :cool:

Your logic is seriously messed up then. If you don't believe the author, we don't have anything to talk about anymore.

We already saw his counter. That was the amateresu transcription he put into Sasuke's eyes, but as Obito said, "Itachi's failsafe plan only got as far as the fail part"

That's not an indication of a failed counter in general. It's semantics for his plans.
 

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Do you mean Itachi want to Amaterasu Obito?

Because that the fastest way to attack Obito like Sasuke does.
 

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Your logic is seriously messed up then. If you don't believe the author, we don't have anything to talk about anymore.



That's not an indication of a failed counter in general. It's semantics for his plans.
Your logic is messed up. You believe this particular phrase was scripted by kishi and not studio w/o proof of course.
He worked on script but not all of it is his word.
As we will never know which is what - all is filler
 

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Your logic is messed up. You believe this particular phrase was scripted by kishi and not studio w/o proof of course.
He worked on script but not all of it is his word.
As we will never know which is what - all is filler

My logic is perfectly fine. Kishimoto worked the story and characters. That's all the info we get. The plausibility is certainly on my side. Using words like "filler" and "canon" in a logical debate where you know they're non-sensical but still used says with whom I'm debating. Since you're fanboying the **** out of Obito, I think it's safe to say you're done. Also, at the end of the day, even if we humor "filler" and "canon", there's a scene in which Itachi owns Obito but you don't have and never will have the vice versa scene. :)
 
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My logic is perfectly fine. Kishimoto worked the story and characters. That's all the info we get. The plausibility is certainly on my side. Using words like "filler" and "canon" in a logical debate where you know they're non-sensical but still used says with whom I'm debating. Since you're fanboying the **** out of Obito, I think it's safe to say you're done. Also, at the end of the day, even if we humor "filler" and "canon", there's a scene in which Itachi owns Obito but you don't have and never will have the vice versa scene. :)
Accusing me of fanboying when you grasp at filler fan service to validate failtachi Lol.
DAT hypocrisy :cool:

ROFL itachi owns obito in fantasy world obito created? Its not like it was some one's dream or anything :rolleyes:
 
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itachi/Obito thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pairing threads
keep it up
 

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Accusing me of fanboying when you grasp at filler fan service to validate failtachi Lol.
DAT hypocrisy :cool:

I don't grasp, I just present that which you don't want to be presented. :) You can call it "fanservice", "fantasy matchup", "filler", "non-canon", but the fact is that it's a correlation to the battle thread we here on the forum. :) You're straw maning the **** out of every argument, even insulting the opponent character, but it's to be expected.
 

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I don't grasp, I just present that which you don't want to be presented. :) You can call it "fanservice", "fantasy matchup", "filler", "non-canon", but the fact is that it's a correlation to the battle thread we here on the forum. :) You're straw maning the **** out of every argument, even insulting the opponent character, but it's to be expected.

But the outcome still not present here and there, that mean you still cant said Itachi>Obito.

in the movie, Itachi just saying, he had another trick or something like that before Obito vanished inside Kamui.

The unhappening outcome is still debateable here
 

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But the outcome still not present here and there, that mean you still cant said Itachi>Obito.

in the movie, Itachi just saying, he had another trick or something like that before Obito vanished inside Kamui.

The unhappening outcome is still debateable here

I agree with this, but with the interpretation of the scene in which Obito immediately went away as soon as Itachi prepared for the battle says otherwise. Not the actual outcome of the battle, but it surely leans more to Itachi than Obito.
 

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I don't grasp, I just present that which you don't want to be presented. :) You can call it "fanservice", "fantasy matchup", "filler", "non-canon", but the fact is that it's a correlation to the battle thread we here on the forum. :) You're straw maning the **** out of every argument, even insulting the opponent character, but it's to be expected.
Rofl. When will your fail stop?
Go go as far as to say itachi owns obito while nothing of sorts happened.
You then overrate that statement of some option that isn't even proven to work let alone defeat obito.
And all from a filler lmao.
 

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Rofl. When will your fail stop?
Go go as far as to say itachi owns obito while nothing of sorts happened.
You then overrate that statement of some option that isn't even proven to work let alone defeat obito.
And all from a filler lmao.

My only fail is thinking you're actually comprehending what I'm typing. :) Since I have to indulge your miniscule comprehension, all the Versus Colloseum mtachups are also "filler", right? I'm sure you can correlate that with Kishimoto's movie, right? Otherwise, get the **** outta here. o.o
 

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I agree with this, but with the interpretation of the scene in which Obito immediately went away as soon as Itachi prepared for the battle says otherwise. Not the actual outcome of the battle, but it surely leans more to Itachi than Obito.

That is how Kishi work, he like to do that for reader to speculate many thing, like I dont know how to kill madara like that, but in the end he is defeated is some way.

Its more to the author with whom he favoured the most if the fight happen, I think he still will favoured Obito to win in all account.
 
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That hoe Kishi work, he like to do that for reader to speculate many thing, like I dont know how to kill madara like that, but in the end he is defeated is some way.

Its more to the author with whom he favoured the most if the fight happen, I think he still will favoured Obito to win in all account.

Well, yeah. If he made it more obvious, we wouldn't be having this discussion. That's why we're relying on hints. And this is a clear hint. With that you agree, right?
 

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My only fail is thinking you're actually comprehending what I'm typing. :) Since I have to indulge your miniscule comprehension, all the Versus Colloseum mtachups are also "filler", right? I'm sure you can correlate that with Kishimoto's movie, right? Otherwise, get the **** outta here. o.o
What vs match ups even doing here? Those are based on material from manta and not money milking movie that has nothing with the story.
Your butthurt is also evident from that foul language.

So why won't you take your own ass out of here, you don't seem to handle the heat.
 

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What vs match ups even doing here? Those are based on material from manta and not money milking movie that has nothing with the story.
Your butthurt is also evident from that foul language.

So why won't you take your own ass out of here, you don't seem to handle the heat.

I see you don't understand anything at all. Money making doesn't have anything to do with it, you dolt. I'm using foul language because you asked for it and used it before me. A match up from the movie is no different than the match up on the forum. They're both fantasy.

You think you're giving me heat? With that level of understanding? This is child's play.
 

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Well, yeah. If he made it more obvious, we wouldn't be having this discussion. That's why we're relying on hints. And this is a clear hint. With that you agree, right?

I agree with that materials for discussion point

But still cant agree fully on the hints point

That trick is just work as counter measure but not absolute way to counter Obito. But Itachi speak like that to tell Sakura to trust him that he can do something to Obito

For me his trick having 50/50 succesfull rate
 
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