What's baffling about the Tobi/Obito and Itachi case.

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I really don't get the whole big misunderstanding here about Itachi being able to beat Obito in a death match.

People argue this "crow" or "water," clone being a counter for kamui.

How can a clone beat him when he killed multiple people at once?



I don't see clones of any kind being an issue here.

What do you think?
 
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It's basically the same thing as Jiraiya being stronger than Pain with intel which is impossible even with giving him intel.

His clone gets killed with taijutsu and Katon. Obito beats Itachi pretty handily tbh.
 

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depends on the strategy used by obito.

yata gg lol
 

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It's basically the same thing as Jiraiya being stronger than Pain with intel which is impossible even with giving him intel.

His clone gets killed with taijutsu and Katon. Obito beats Itachi pretty handily tbh.

That's what I was thinking

I mean instead of warping naruto, he beat the clone with a fan.

Does everyone think he warps to kill?
 

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Totsuka 1 shots
those were fodder ninja btw
 

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That argument was always stupid, he doesn't absorb until he has confirmed that the one before him is the real one and not clone.
 

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Totsuka 1 shots
those were fodder ninja btw

So a clone can beat a real life ninja?

May I remind you that he beat a kcm naruto clone too?

Which is way stronger.

Still no explanation on the mokuton part, it can rip human flesh apart.

Naruto took out itachi's clone with a shuriken :coffee:
 

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That argument was always stupid, he doesn't absorb until he has confirmed that the one before him is the real one and not clone.

Ya, I though Madara and Obito can see through clones or something like that.
 

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So a clone can beat a real life ninja?

May I remind you that he beat a kcm naruto clone too?

Which is way stronger.

Still no explanation on the mokuton part, it can rip human flesh apart.

Naruto took out itachi's clone with a shuriken :coffee:

The clone doesn't have to beat him clones are for distraction

Ya, I though Madara and Obito can see through clones or something like that.

Nope no one can tell the difference immediately anyways even Kaguya couldn't
 

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The clone doesn't have to beat him clones are for distraction

Didn't work for kcm naruto and Gai.

Nope no one can tell the difference immediately anyways even Kaguya couldn't

Well Madara said he saw Hashirama's:



Obito saw it here:




So I really don't know Kaguya's deal is, maybe she was panicking from the yang seal being near.

It was also a high speed battle too, she couldn't even sense Obito syncing into her dimension too.
 
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I still don't know if the fight would be in Itachi's favour, if he figures out Kamui.
 

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obito cant see through clones, he hit narutos with a fan by guessing.
 

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Didn't work for kcm naruto and Gai.
Its different for Obito cause he would be fighting on both sides


Well Madara said he saw Hashirama's:



Obito saw it here:



So I really don't know Kaguya's deal is, maybe she was panicking from the yang seal being near.

It was also a high speed battle too, she couldn't even sense Obito syncing into her dimension too.

Cant see the Obito one
The madara one he was talking back when he had sharingan not rinnegan and he didn't see it when hash back stabbed him.
 

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i cant post pics. :[

stupid thing is about it is he didnt follow the clone with his sharingan :/
 

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I still don't know if the fight would be in Itachi's favour, if he figures out Kamui.

Well Itachi and MS Obito are on the same tier with MS Obito portrayed as superior due to HashiRoids (basically EMS + Yamato level mokuton).

And his Kamui is tricky to deal with, so strong people like Nagato lose to him. U_U
 

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Its different for Obito cause he would be fighting on both sides

Wouldn't it be easier since all the clones look like itachi and a shuriken is all that's needed to take the clones out?

Kcm naruto's clone fought Edo Raikage, his clones are a lot stronger than itachi's.

Cant see the Obito one
The madara one he was talking back when he had sharingan not rinnegan and he didn't see it when hash back stabbed him.



Obito has the sharingan

The scan is when Obito batted the clone.

For some reason that scan won't work.
 
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