Sakura is only book-mart with no strategy at all (?)

[Natsu Shazneel]

She is the woman in a Shounen manga for men, It makes sense that she the more neglected of all the main characters.
Still, your value judgments, are your prsonal opinion, right or wrong, good from bad.
Now, If a character realizes something no one ever did before, this character prooves to be smart. The same applies to the other feats.

And again, before you say that those won't change your opinion of her, I am not asking for that, you can hate a character and still accept the good things she has done.

Even in shonen a women character is not developed this badly. I am sorry but you cannot use that excuse on me. I have every right to demand a better heroin.

What do you mean with a "better character"? I'm not going to compare her with them. When I say that I like her character, I have my reasons to like her, and doesn't matter if she is a main character or not, or if she doesn't have enough feats if compared to Naruto or Sasuke. For example, I like Itachi more than Naruto, and he is a side character. I think he has a more interesting background and at the time he was alive he was obviously more powerful than Naruto. So it makes Naruto a "failed main character" or it is an insult to him? No.

I told you the reasons why so many don't like her character and over look these feats. When you were lashing out at the haters for it. You said you don't care about the main character status, but in the end it does matter when you compare them to Hinata. One has more screen time and more relevance to the story because of her status compared to the other. People use Sakura's feats to demean Hinata's character when they clearly know how much screen time she had in this story. No amount of panel time or screen time will make another think highly of another.

And that comparison you did with Itachi was not the same comparison I did with Sakura. I compared the real main characters with her.

 

[SSStylish]

I can't debunk anything you said. You couln't even answer my first post, so let me explain it to you for your mind to comprehand.

Why is Sakura better than Hinata?

First she is the third character in the series, the third most important character.


Now you said that Hinata lost to both Neji and Pain and you called her fodder trash.

Sakura Part one vs Neji Part one
Sakura Part two vs Pain part two

Hmm..


Next Hinata and Sakura are not showcased to be geniuses at all, so characters WHO ARE "genius" level shinobi (proven by a young age too) break the standards for side characters: Itachi (Age 7 with intelligence on par with a Hokage), Shikamaru (Outstanding IQ, who could even generate battles 200 steps ahead according to Chunin exams facts presented by out lovely Asuma-Sempai)

So Sakura - Trained by Tsunade
So Hinata - Trained by Neji

What is saving Sakura from being worse than Hinata? Plot, if Hinata was given a good teacher to increase her own skills and provide her with new teachings to give her a larger diverse skill-set, how would that turn out huh? Do I have to continue or what? Go answer my questions.

-I'm only talking about provided battle smarts, you are the one talking about who is "better".
-I did not call her "fodder trash" show me where I said that. I bet you can't because you made that up in order to react butthurt to my comment.
-Yes you are, remember the Lee thread? It was just like in this thread. You came along with filler stuff and assumptions while I used the provided feats.
-Why do you use what if scenarios in a thread about established feats and facts? This is called faulty logic.

 

[lndra]

-I'm only talking about provided battle smarts, you are the one talking about who is "better".
-I did not call her "fodder trash" show me where I said that. I bet you can't because you made that up in order to react butthurt to my comment.
-Yes you are, remember the Lee thread? It was just like in this thread. You came along with filler stuff and assumptions while I used the provided feats.
-Why do you use what if scenarios in a thread about established feats and facts? This is called faulty logic.

Look at you, never answered any of my questions. Proving my point.
The fact that you tried to respond bringing up old news makes you look even more pathetic then you did 15 minutes ago. I suggest logging off to save whatever dignity you have left in this thread, let alone personal views of anyone reading your responses.

 

[Keimil]

Even in shonen a women character is not developed this badly. I am sorry but you cannot use that excuse on me. I have every right to demand a better heroin.

Yes you are, you are making say that again, you can dislike her, hate her, I don't care, It was never my intention to change that, you are evading what I'm saying repeating yourself every single time.

 

[Brünhild]

Sakura wasn't developed this badly as people like to say. If we compare part 1 Sakura with part 2 Sakura we will see a huge difference.

 

[SSStylish]

Look at you, never answered any of my questions. Proving my point.
The fact that you tried to respond bringing up old news makes you look even more pathetic then you did 15 minutes ago. I suggest logging off to save whatever dignity you have left in this thread, let alone personal views of anyone reading your responses.

-I did but you didn't understand them.
-Reply to everything I said and show me where I called Hinata "fodder trash" in this thread
-I do not look pathetic by doing so because this is prove of your credibility
-You are spamming/reposting all the time and highly condescending.

 

[RedRobin]

/Sits down

You keep posting that but its a terrible post....

 

[RedRobin]

Sakura wasn't developed this badly as people like to say. If we compare part 1 Sakura with part 2 Sakura we will see a huge difference.

Only in her abilities.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Still, in proportion of the panel time she had, Hinata said "Naruto-kun" way too many more times than Sakura.

Plus, this thread is about Sakura being smart, what will your recompilation of "Sasuke-Kun"s change about that?

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Smart girls wouldn't marry the guy that tried to kill her.

 

[lndra]

-I did but you didn't understand them.
-Reply to everything I said and show me where I called Hinata "fodder trash" in this thread
-I do not look pathetic by doing so because this is prove of your credibility
-You are spamming/reposting all the time and highly condescending.

Again your blaming me without answering my questions.
The fact is that you know I'm right, so why not accept it? I don't hate you, in fact you are nothing in my life and will never be, as I am nothing in your life and will never be. I don't understand why you responding to my posts when in-fact you couldn't respond to it last time. Says I'm bringing up nonsense and non-logical facts? When everything I said came straight out of the manga itself, in fact I brought up points in the story to YOU.

Man all I can say to you is:

Spoiler

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[Natsu Shazneel]

Sakura wasn't developed this badly as people like to say. If we compare part 1 Sakura with part 2 Sakura we will see a huge difference.

Lol And what numbskull denied that?

 

[lndra]

You keep posting that but its a terrible post....

The fact that is a terrible post, is right. I barely worked on it for 2 minutes, yet no one can debunk it.

Though I already know you are a hard-core Sakura fan, so what-ever you say means nothing right now. Anyone biased in a character-thread will only lead to uneducated responses. You are prime example number two, someone already took your spot.

 

[lndra]

Yeah because side characters like Hinata who weren't born geniuses like Neji, Itachi, and so forth get real development in a way they branch out from moderate standards.

She fought Neji who inherited the strongest blood to the KKG as words from Hiashi, meaning Neji could solo that negg deff father in a second, probably.

Fighting Pain is a feat of it's own. I mean logically Sakura has feats because she is the third character in the series besides Naruto and Sasuke, that alone is what saves her from being complete fodder.

Put Sakura again'st Pain, hell even Neji, and tell me she would survive Lol

Part 1 Sakura vs Part 1 Neji = Neji Neg deffs easy

Part 2 Sakurs vs Pain = Same boat as Hinata, gets neg deffed in seconds

So why is Sakura better than Hinata? Main character syndrome Lol

So can anyone debunk this or nah?

 

[RedRobin]

The fact that is a terrible post, is right. I barely worked on it for 2 minutes, yet no one can debunk it.

Though I already know you are a hard-core Sakura fan, so what-ever you say means nothing right now. Anyone biased in a character-thread will only lead to uneducated responses. You are prime example number two, someone already took your spot.

No its a terrible post even with 2 mins.

I am no longer a Sakura fan but I can clearly see the crazy bias in your post. Stating Hinata is better but when asked for feats, resorting to a Hinata never had enough panel time?

 

[Kakooli]

Nice thread, man! Sakura needs some love.

This scan shows the difference between Hinata and Sakura:

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Hinata stood there looking like a confused child while the real kunoichi was deducing Tobi's powers with pinpoint accuracy. Sakura=prodigy Hinata=Alien defect fodder.

 

[SSStylish]

Again your blaming me without answering my questions.
The fact is that you know I'm right, so why not accept it? I don't hate you, in fact you are nothing in my life and will never be, as I am nothing in your life and will never be. I don't understand why you responding to my posts when in-fact you couldn't respond to it last time. Says I'm bringing up nonsense and non-logical facts? When everything I said came straight out of the manga itself, in fact I brought up points in the story to YOU.

Man all I can say to you is:

Spoiler

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Please say something to everything I said in this post instead of acting condescending.

"-I'm only talking about provided battle smarts, you are the one talking about who is "better".
-I did not call her "fodder trash" show me where I said that. I bet you can't because you made that up in order to react butthurt to my comment.
-Yes you are, remember the Lee thread? It was just like in this thread. You came along with filler stuff and assumptions while I used the provided feats.
-Why do you use what if scenarios in a thread about established feats and facts? This is called faulty logic."

I was the one bringing up facts. You only what if scenarios, your opinion, your twisting of my words and insults.

Are you always bringing this meme up when you lose a debate?

 

[Keimil]

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Smart girls wouldn't marry the guy that tried to kill her.

I never did, I was only pointing that out.

The fact that she marry Sasuke has nothing to do with smartness, only the strong feelings of a young girl. Plus, I remember that she was going to kill him too, at some point, right? She backed down at the end but her plan was to kill Sasuke.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

So can anyone debunk this or nah?

What you said was true. Lol Give a catfish more screen time and it will show a lot more than a rock that barely moves because of the beholder.

 

[lndra]

No its a terrible post even with 2 mins.

I am no longer a Sakura fan but I can clearly see the crazy bias in your post. Stating Hinata is better but when asked for feats, resorting to a Hinata never had enough panel time?

Where does it state that I said Hinata is better than Sakura?
It's obvious Sakura > Hinata
I'm merely showing you why that is ~
Please learn how to read.

 

[Brünhild]

In part 1 Sakura:
-was useless
-barely could defend herself
-mocked Naruto for being alone and treated him badly
-fangirled over Sasuke

Part 2 Sakura:
-became Tsunade's disciple
-one of the best medical ninjas
-defeated an Akatsuki member with 15 years old
-saved countless lives with her skills
-started to care for Naruto and to support his dream, not to mention that she saved his life and even defended him during the Kage Summit, when Sasuke tried to kill all the Team 7 members
-her fangirlism became a selfless love for Sasuke, even Kakashi stated that her goal was to save him from darkness

If this isn't some development, I really don't know what it is. I fail to see how "terrible" she is.