Sakura is only book-mart with no strategy at all (?)

[Keimil]

Will this change my opinion about her, compared to everything else I dislike about her? Nope

Again, that was never my intention. If you can accept her feats, I am done here.

They are just feats. They don't make her a better character.

If It's good or bad, I don't care, that's your opinion her. But it surely makes her a wiser character.

 

[Made in Heaven]

I call it lack of skill.

However, this is not the point, maybe she could see the hole in Tobi's body,but If she doesn't realize Tobi was using the same dimensional jutsu to both evade attacks and transport himself (as Sakura did), is all meaningless..

Call it what you want, it won't change the fact that it's a plot hole.

What about her deduction skills? Are they on pair with Sakura's? Lol

Not at all. Still, it's mind boggling to me how Kishi would have Hinata remain silent about Obito's body parts disappearing despite undoubtedly being able to see them with Byakugan. It makes no sense.

You call it a fail, Kishi calls it Sakura's analytic skills.

I'm not underrating Sakura's analytic skills, I'm simply saying it's a plot hole that Hinata didn;t notice the ability as well with her Byakugan. Which logically should have been the case.

 

[lndra]

Niqqa what the f@ck? This is what I posted "We can provide more than enough battle smarts for Sakura. Same can't be said for Hinata. Low screen time is no excuse because if it would be one of her strengths Kishi would've showed us that. This "logic" should never be used because it can be said for a lot of characters. Example: Is Itachi smarter than some random fodder with low screen time? Yes he is, because we haven't seen shi* from the fodder and if he would be smart Kishi would've showed us that. Shikamaru had lower screen time than Sakura as well and yet we've seen a lot of battle smarts coming from him." We are talking about battle smarts and feats not fanboyism and your kind of logic.

So basically you never answered my question and stuck up for Sakura because she was showed more, because she is one of the three top main characters?

We can provide more battle smarts for Sakura? Because she is shown more in the manga, next
Low screen time is no excuse? Tell me how Hinata/Sakura are geniuses of their time, then what separates them? More manga panels, more fights, and more experience. Sakura was trained by a Sannin, who trained Hinata? Neji :/

Itachi is smarter than random fodder?

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Itachi is a genius of damn time. He was an Anbu Captain for Christ Sakes at 13 I believe. Sakura just became a genin, and Hinata too :l

Shikamaru was portrayed being a genius in the beginning as-well. He has the highest IQ, compared to even Kakashi himself. He was shown to be a genius while your Sakura couldn't even protect her team mates let alone herself. :l


All these points and you still never said the right words.

I already answered your shit post of a response.
How dare you call me illogical when I'm one of the best logical users in this site, but hey. Let's let the rep bars do the talking Lol
No one can dare listen to a word you say. You can't even agree with what's presented in front of you because you always have to be right.

 

[lndra]

You've got to be one of the biggest fappers on this site. You deny feats, are a hypocrite, use filler and fanfic to back your claims up and can't use common sense like in this thread in order to understand a comparison, something that is used very often to back up arguments. Please don't come with rustling jimmies, because you're always like that. Feats/Databook/Manga>>Your claims.

I can't understand comparison he said. He tried to compare Hinata's progression to characters like Itachi, and Shikamaru.
I swear if you aren't serious, go to the doctor, please. Everything you write gives me cancer.

 

[take it easy]

Many of them isn't strategy.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Again, that was never my intention. If you can accept her feats, I am done here.

I told you already she has feats. My problem with her are not her feats it is her characterization. That is why these feats won't make me change my opinion of her. Also these are pretty standard feats for a main character. So they won't make me really be excited for her.

If It's good or bad, I don't care, that's your opinion her. But it surely makes her a wiser character.

If it makes her a wiser character. Than that is your opinion. But I sadly don't think so, so lets agree to disagree.

 

[Keimil]

Call it what you want, it won't change the fact that it's a plot hole.

Nope, that is not a fact, that's your biased opinion. Denying, failing to accept a Sakura feat that "should have been given to Hinata!!"

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Not at all. Still, it's mind boggling to me how Kishi would have Hinata remain silent about Obito's body parts disappearing despite undoubtedly being able to see them with Byakugan. It makes no sense.

Already countered, even if she had seen it(maybe she did), she had yet to realize Tobi was using the same jutsu for both skills, Byakugan doesn't grant you neurons, only better sight.

I'm not underrating Sakura's analytic skills, I'm simply saying it's a plot hole that Hinata didn;t notice the ability as well with her Byakugan. Which logically should have been the case.

Already responded above.

 

[SSStylish]

I already answered your shit post of a response.
How dare you call me illogical when I'm one of the best logical users in this site, but hey. Let's let the rep bars do the talking Lol
No one can dare listen to a word you say. You can't even agree with what's presented in front of you because you always have to be right.

-No you didn't. You couldn't debunk anything I said. Zeref said that we've only seen one fight of her and I said that we saw 2 and she got negged in both. This means no battle smarts from her. You saying the same were to happen to Sakura is unnecessery because we've seen Sakura's battle smarts, hell, this thread is about them.
-You still use low screen time as an excuse while there is nothing in the first place backing your claim up.
-Logical users don't use double standards, filler/fanfic and assumtions while denying feats and facts.
-Rep bar? I don't see a reason in bringing them up unless you yourself know that you've lost this debate
-You are the one that can't agree with what is presented. You provide me assumptions and faulty logic and are unable of presenting any actual feats while I am. You basically just solo'd yourself.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Lol That Pein fight was not even a fight. She was going there to save Naruto by getting the rods out.

 

[Brünhild]

Nice thread! Sakura's qualities are really overlooked by people, her haters always point out her flaws (which is something that almost every character has) and forget about her many good points.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Nice thread! Sakura's qualities are really overlooked by people, her haters always point out her flaws (which is something that almost every character has) and forget about her many good points.

Maybe if she was a better character it won't happen. You lovers over look that reasoning. Compare her to Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi she is a fail main character.

 

[Keimil]

Nice thread! Sakura's qualities are really overlooked by people, her haters always point out her flaws (which is something that almost every character has) and forget about her many good points.

Thank you! I love your sig, she is so badass...:x3:

 

[UCE]

When shippuden/part 2 started sakura had a nice potential as a female character. The sasori fight was a great example of it but sadly she was tossed aside like she was some kind of side character. Team 7: Naruto,Sasuke and kakashi got more development & bigger abilities than her. All she got was that seal on the forehead that was interesting judging from the performance that tsunade had everytime she was using it. If Sakura had a better character development her abilities would have been better, much better.


OT:She has battle smarts.

 

[Lord Tywin]

I guess it's time for the second edition of this thread

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[SSStylish]

I can't understand comparison he said. He tried to compare Hinata's progression to characters like Itachi, and Shikamaru.

Show me where I compared their "progression". I showed you that low screen time in comparison to Sakura is no excuse because Shikamaru and Itachi showed them. Hinata not showing them just means that the creator himself did not intend to make her smart in battle.

 

[lndra]

-No you didn't. You couldn't debunk anything I said. Zeref said that we've only seen one fight of her and I said that we saw 2 and she got negged in both. This means no battle smarts from her. You saying the same were to happen to Sakura is unnecessery because we've seen Sakura's battle smarts, hell, this thread is about them.
-You still use low screen time as an excuse while there is nothing in the first place backing your claim up.
-Logical users don't use double standards, filler/fanfic and assumtions while denying feats and facts.
-Rep bar? I don't see a reason in bringing them up unless you yourself know that you've lost this debate
-You are the one that can't agree with what is presented. You provide me assumptions and faulty logic and are unable of presenting any actual feats while I am. You basically just solo'd yourself.

I can't debunk anything you said. You couln't even answer my first post, so let me explain it to you for your mind to comprehand.

Why is Sakura better than Hinata?

First she is the third character in the series, the third most important character.


Now you said that Hinata lost to both Neji and Pain and you called her fodder trash.

Sakura Part one vs Neji Part one
Sakura Part two vs Pain part two

Hmm..


Next Hinata and Sakura are not showcased to be geniuses at all, so characters WHO ARE "genius" level shinobi (proven by a young age too) break the standards for side characters: Itachi (Age 7 with intelligence on par with a Hokage), Shikamaru (Outstanding IQ, who could even generate battles 200 steps ahead according to Chunin exams facts presented by our lovely Asuma-Sempai)

So Sakura - Trained by Tsunade
So Hinata - Trained by Neji

What is saving Sakura from being worse than Hinata? Plot, if Hinata was given a good teacher to increase her own skills and provide her with new teachings to give her a larger diverse skill-set, how would that turn out huh? Do I have to continue or what? Go answer my questions.

 

[Keimil]

Maybe if she was a better character it won't happen. You lovers over look that reasoning. Compare her to Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi she is a fail main character.

She is the woman in a Shounen manga for men, It makes sense that she the more neglected of all the main characters.
Still, your value judgments, are your prsonal opinion, right or wrong, good from bad.
Now, If a character realizes something no one ever did before, this character prooves to be smart. The same applies to the other feats.

And again, before you say that those won't change your opinion of her, I am not asking for that, you can hate a character and still accept the good things she has done.

 

[Brünhild]

Maybe if she was a better character it won't happen. You lovers over look that reasoning. Compare her to Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi she is a fail main character.

What do you mean with a "better character"? I'm not going to compare her with them. When I say that I like her character, I have my reasons to like her, and doesn't matter if she is a main character or not, or if she doesn't have enough feats if compared to Naruto or Sasuke. For example, I like Itachi more than Naruto, and he is a side character. I think he has a more interesting background and at the time he was alive he was obviously more powerful than Naruto. So it makes Naruto a "failed main character" or it is an insult to him? No.

 

[Keimil]

I guess it's time for the second edition of this thread

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Still, in proportion of the panel time she had, Hinata said "Naruto-kun" way too many more times than Sakura.

Plus, this thread is about Sakura being smart, what will your recompilation of "Sasuke-Kun"s change about that?

 

[salsalover64]

The facts you displayed are of a main character who should have been shown to at least had this development over the years. Hinata never got to display her feats in part 2 that is a fact. So judging her character in any shape or form at this point is invalid.

Seeing Sakura's feats won't change my opinion of her character when my point of disliking her is characterization. Not just feats as a whole. Also compared to Naruto, Sasuke, and, Kakashi these feats are nothing.



I can think how ever I want. The user asked me a question and I gave him a answer. If you wanna play that game than there is no reason to think she does not have battle smarts more than Sakura. When the answer of that was clearly not shown.

Preach it!