Can Rock Lee from The Last beat EMS Sasuke?

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8 gates is not a win since Lee dies
EMS Sasuke will rek any Lee not including 8 gates

so in conclusion Lee will die either way

Very true. 8 Gate is a certain death, but it is also a post-certain victory.
I mean Sasuke is strong don't get me wrong, but to say he can tank the 8th Gate and walk out is an extreme fapping level.
Madara who became a JJ Jin only surpassed it's affects because he was immortal.

Come on mates :l
 

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Those Gates are nothing compared to what Gai did vs Madara, that is it at it's full power.

As if Rock Lee would use 4th gate on Sasuke Lol he would die in seconds

8 gates? Come on >o > It's obvious both of these guys are in for it.

people keep forgetting that gai had help and that madara was playing around to test around 8 gates, limbo woulda ended gai on the spot.

any PS would step on anyone using 8 gates.
 

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Would he go full gates before or after Sasuke killed him?

And yeah, I doubt that Lee with 8 gates is as powerful as Gai. It also would end up in a draw this way even if Lee would win because he'd die. So yeah, not really a win.

Actually during the Chunin Exams they mentioned that Rock Lee was a "genius" because of his mastery of the Gates, so yes he will defintely be more powerful then Gai-sensei. I mean he noticed his sensei's techniques back in the Madara battle so I'm postive he could incorporate more techniques of his own into the form in his limited time-frame.

Even if Lee died, he would certainly take Sasuke along with him. I mean anyone vs. Gates is destroyed considering the facts of how it is portrayed in the Manga, even Naruto too.

Don't sleep on the power because it invites DEATH, wake up and smell the gates because the only thing stopping it is immortality.
 

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Obviously yes. Sasuke had to take Sage power ups to cut meteors but Lee can do it with his new Gates.
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Actually during the Chunin Exams they mentioned that Rock Lee was a "genius" because of his mastery of the Gates, so yes he will defintely be more powerful then Gai-sensei. I mean he noticed his sensei's techniques back in the Madara battle so I'm postive he could incorporate more techniques of his own into the form in his limited time-frame.

Even if Lee died, he would certainly take Sasuke along with him. I mean anyone vs. Gates is destroyed considering the facts of how it is portrayed in the Manga, even Naruto too.

Don't sleep on the power because it invites DEATH, wake up and smell the gates because the only thing stopping it is immortality.

The first one is an assumption. From what we've seen Gai is leagues above Lee.

And I don't know how to tell you this, but... enton amplified susanoo :cool:
 

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Obviously yes. Sasuke had to take Sage power ups to cut meteors but Lee can do it with his new Gates.
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Show me pre Sage power up Sasuke failing to destroy a meteor with the same speed and size like the one Lee destroyed or log off.
 

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The first one is an assumption. From what we've seen Gai is leagues above Lee.

And I don't know how to tell you this, but... enton amplified susanoo :cool:

The first one is not an assumption. Gai fought Madara in his prime, does that mean Gai could not acheived his 8 Gate form during his battle with Kisame/Itachi? Of course he could, Gai never needed more training (for us as readers for character development) because he was already trained.

Have you even thought about it? GATES training is extremely lethal to the body, so of course training of the techniques/moves/and skills require first-base knowledge on the matters. Gai trained Rock Lee of the Gates mastery at a young age, it would not make sense for HIM not to surpass his sensei. Even in the War arc Lee knew the requirements for the 8th Gate, so of course he'll know how to activate it and use it.

Now see this is why I think you are wanking. Have you not heard of: Day Time Tiger, Leaf Dragon God, Night Guy, Evening Elephant and etc.

Also if you think Sasuke can keep up with 8 Gate speed nor anyone, then this conversation is going nowhere.
 

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I never said Sasuke would win against 8 gates Lee, all I said was that Lee would die either way

if this is EMS Sasuke vs 8 gates Lee then both die

Praise Takeh, now can you preach to that guy SSSA? lol
 

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What's the difference between war Lee and this Lee?
 

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The first one is not an assumption. Gai fought Madara in his prime, does that mean Gai could not acheived his 8 Gate form during his battle with Kisame/Itachi? Of course he could, Gai never needed more training (for us as readers for character development) because he was already trained.

Have you even thought about it? GATES training is extremely lethal to the body, so of course training of the techniques/moves/and skills require first-base knowledge on the matters. Gai trained Rock Lee of the Gates mastery at a young age, it would not make sense for HIM not to surpass his sensei. Even in the War arc Lee knew the requirements for the 8th Gate, so of course he'll know how to activate it and use it.

Now see this is why I think you are wanking. Have you not heard of: Day Time Tiger, Leaf Dragon God, Night Guy, Evening Elephant and etc.

Also if you think Sasuke can keep up with 8 Gate speed nor anyone, then this conversation is going nowhere.

This is why I think you're wanking:

-All your Lee=Gai or Lee>Gai arguments are assumptions.
-Leaf Dragon God? What is this anime only filler attack gonna do? Lol
-Every attack you mentioned except for ther filler one was only ever used by Gai xD
 

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In the war Rock Lee was only able to achieve the 6th gate, there is nothing that suggest that he could even go 8th gate.

EMS Sasuke > Rock Lee (The Last)
 

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This is why I think you're wanking:

-All your Lee=Gai or Lee>Gai arguments are assumptions.
-Leaf Dragon God? What is this anime only filler attack gonna do? Lol
-Every attack you mentioned except for ther filler one was only ever used by Gai xD


- Show me a scan of Rock Lee not having the requirements to surpass his sensei as every other character can. Rock Lee, is the next Gai sensei, even CHapter 700 states this ... yet here you are.
- I was using naruto wiki as an example, I never realized it was a filler technique. It matters not. Every technique that Gai used was used in the 8TH GATE state, have we seen Rock Lee go to the 8th gate? No. Does that mean he can't use it? Use your damn brain SSSA! Stop over-analyzing this damn conversaiton and use your brain for the required limit, you don't need anything else.
- Sasuke nor anyone else in this manga, cannot tank a full 8th gate without being immortal. If you think they can, provide scans of someone surviving the 8 gate on a 1 on 1 battle at full power, please go do so.
 
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- Show me a scan of Rock Lee not having the requirements to surpass his sensei as every other character can. Rock Lee, is the next Gai sensei, even CHapter 700 states this ... yet here you are.
- I was using naruto wiki as an example, I never realized it was a filler technique. It matter not. Every technique that Gai used was used in the 8TH GATE, have we seen Rock Lee go to the 8th gate? No. Does that mean he can't use it? Use your damn brain SSSA! Stop over-analyzing this damn conversaiton and use your brain for the required limit, you don't need anything else.
- Sasuke nor anyone else in this manga, cannot tank a full 8th gate without being immortal. If you can, provide scans of someone surviving the 8 gate on a 1 on 1 battle at full power, please go do so.

lee is still fodder bro, and so is gai.
 

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In the war Rock Lee was only able to achieve the 6th gate, there is nothing that suggest that he could even go 8th gate.

EMS Sasuke > Rock Lee (The Last)

Sadly Rock Lee as you said was only shown activating the 6th gate, but as I've said many times there was no instances for Rock Lee to surpass that change and go forward. I mean side characters never get their time to shine, but it's clearly obvious that he should be. There is no barrier gap between 6th - 7th Gate, the only one that is impossible to activate without surviving is the 8th (Not considering NaruJesus to the rescue!)
 

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- Show me a scan of Rock Lee not having the requirements

-Show me a scan of Sasuke not having the requirements to go Super Saiyan. Lol
-Just show me a scan where it is clearly stated that he can go 8 gates and I will concede. Maybe I just can't remember.

In the end, even if he can do so, Lee won't win, maybe tie. But I honestly ask myself how he'd managa to go 8 gates against EMS Sasuke. He'd get killed before that.
 

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-Show me a scan of Sasuke not having the requirements to go Super Saiyan. Lol
-Just show me a scan where it is clearly stated that he can go 8 gates and I will concede. Maybe I just can't remember.

In the end, even if he can do so, Lee won't win, maybe tie. But I honestly ask myself how he'd managa to go 8 gates against EMS Sasuke. He'd get killed before that.

- lol. 1 + 1 = 2 SSSA, don't add nonexistant points to this convo bro!
- They never mentioned the limits on Rock Lee, he was only shown to use up to 6. I must say it's because they wanted to showcase Gai's abilites with the gates (Such as his 7th and techniques) then moving towards the 8th gate with his special abilities in the form. Logically, there had been literally no instances in the manga/anime that required Rock Lee to surpass the 6th gate and go full force. It was stated that he was a genius compared to Gai in Gates mastery, that alone from Kakashi should amount to how capable he is

Lee will win that's what you are not getting it. An 8 gate opponent means sure death for both sides, clear and simple. No matter who it is unless they are Kaguya or JJ Jin. The feats alone from Madara vs 8 Gate Gai should be alone to fix your opinion of it. Sharinngan Sasuke can kill Rock Lee in a second before any gate activation if he can teleport with something, I really don't see Sasuke killing Rock Lee before the 8th gate as Gai activated it in a second, literally. Genjutsu tho solos
 
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