[VS] Nagato>>>Obito

[Draphsin]

-An unlimited supply of Sharingan would most likely be going against what the OP intended.

B/U/I: & That's where you fail, until the OP says it this is nothing but speculation on your part, therefore isn't considered. OP specified NO restrictions, unless the lab is restricted then nothing is going against the OP, merely what you want to go against the OP.

"Oh, OP never said that nagato doesn't have his cooldown, therefore saying that he does in this fight goes against the OP" <-- Your logic with this statement.

-You already acknowledged Obito going to Nagato's corpse to retrieve his Rinnegan shouldn't be allowed because it would no longer be "MS Obito" hence it would be going against the OP's intentions.

Again this is a fail, the only reason why the above is different is because it's not MS obito anymore, now unless you have something that proves MS obito isn't the same after he replaces his eye then this example is completely invalid. & Again you go on trying to explain the OP's intentions without having a single clue what those intentions could possibly be or if those intentions did mean for obito to have access to his eye.

-There is a chance an unlimited supply of Sharingan will not be going against the OP's intentions, but that's a slim chance because it is very unfair anyway you look at it

Again, your opinion. Until you have the OP's opinion on the matter this is all speculation & has no place here in a VS thread. No restrictions = the lab is fair game regardless of what the OP was thinking at the time. If he doesn't want this to be a strategy well then he can edit the OP or tell us himself, but until then speculation isn't going to be the reason why this argument isn't viable.

So more than likely, your preposition will not be valid in a thread.

& Without proof, it is valid no matter what you say.

 

[Demonic.]

B/U/I: & That's where you fail, until the OP says it this is nothing but speculation on your part, therefore isn't considered. OP specified NO restrictions, unless the lab is restricted then nothing is going against the OP, merely what you want to go against the OP.

"Oh, OP never said that nagato doesn't have his cooldown, therefore saying that he does in this fight goes against the OP" <-- Your logic with this statement.



Again this is a fail, the only reason why the above is different is because it's not MS obito anymore, now unless you have something that proves MS obito isn't the same after he replaces his eye then this example is completely invalid. & Again you go on trying to explain the OP's intentions without having a single clue what those intentions could possibly be or if those intentions did mean for obito to have access to his eye.



Again, your opinion. Until you have the OP's opinion on the matter this is all speculation & has no place here in a VS thread. No restrictions = the lab is fair game regardless of what the OP was thinking at the time. If he doesn't want this to be a strategy well then he can edit the OP or tell us himself, but until then speculation isn't going to be the reason why this argument isn't viable.



& Without proof, it is valid no matter what you say.

^^^ I acknowledged that the OP might indeed want/allow this, but I'm saying more than likely they won't because the idea is very unorthodox Lol

 

[Sweet Pudding]

With Nagato there, it effectively ends the fight. Obito can then put him in a Genjutsu because it's his dimension, and then end Nagato right then and there.

Rinnegan is imune the visual Genjutsu,the 4th DB confirmed it. Also Madara's eyes are immune to IT along with Sasuke's and Hago so its only natural that Nagato is also immune...and even if he is caught in Genjutsu he can easily break it using his vast chakra supplies
And once in the Dimension,Nagato casually steals Obito's sould by using Human Path on a body part. Why is it so hard to belive that Rinnegan User>>>MS user w/o Bijuu or Juubi Chakra?

^^^ I acknowledged that the OP might indeed want/allow this, but I'm saying more than likely they won't because the idea is very unorthodox Lol

I didnt restricts it because it never occured to me that someone would actually say "He has unlimited Izanagi by going back to his lab to recharge" XD
Its like when Itachi fans say Totsuka Blade can extend

 

[Scryed]

Being able to go to his lab to restock is a bit unfair don't you think so Drapshin?

The whole point of this is to make it a good debate.


OP: Nagato is more powerful but Obito can indeed beat him. ST could repel him but he can still use Kamui before he gets smashed into other objects/ground. The parts of his body that overlap with other objects are sent to the other dimension. Gravity doesn't overlap with his body but the things he'll get smashed into do.

CT might be good to counter his phasing since he'll keep getting pulled towards the orb (although he won't take any damage from the debris being pulled up as well) but he's still able to warp to a different location which could be right next to Nagato.



I simply consider it a bad match-up.

 

[Transcendence]

Rinnegan is imune the visual Genjutsu,the 4th DB confirmed it. Also Madara's eyes are immune to IT along with Sasuke's and Hago so its only natural that Nagato is also immune...and even if he is caught in Genjutsu he can easily break it using his vast chakra supplies
And once in the Dimension,Nagato casually steals Obito's sould by using Human Path on a body part. Why is it so hard to belive that Rinnegan User>>>MS user w/o Bijuu or Juubi Chakra?



I didnt restricts it because it never occured to me that someone would actually say "He has unlimited Izanagi by going back to his lab to recharge" XD
Its like when Itachi fans say Totsuka Blade can extend

Nope. Rin'negan isn't. The 4th Databook translation you are talking about was a fake, confirmed by translators. There was nothing in Nagato's page that said he was immune to visual Genjutsu because of the Rin'negan. Sasuke's Rin'negan is obviously different. It's in between Hagoromo's Rin'negan and Kaguya's Sharin'negan. Obviously he can resist IT. But a normal Rin'negan user cannot, hence forth why Nagato, once in the Kamui dimension, dies because Obito hypnotizes him with Genjutsu and then proceeds to cut his head off.

 

[Sweet Pudding]

Nope. Rin'negan isn't. The 4th Databook translation you are talking about was a fake, confirmed by translators. There was nothing in Nagato's page that said he was immune to visual Genjutsu because of the Rin'negan. Sasuke's Rin'negan is obviously different. It's in between Hagoromo's Rin'negan and Kaguya's Sharin'negan. Obviously he can resist IT. But a normal Rin'negan user cannot, hence forth why Nagato, once in the Kamui dimension, dies because Obito hypnotizes him with Genjutsu and then proceeds to cut his head off.

Oh please
Genjutsu is childs play for a Shinobi possesing a Rinnegan and trained by Jiraiya

Nagato can easily stop the flow of chakra in his body, and then apply an even stronger power to disrupt the flow of the caster's chakra

And not to mention Obito's Genjutsu is weaker than Tsukyuomi so it will be easier to break

 

[Pragmatic]

It's nonsense in a vs thread.

Minato fapboys have said "Minato reverse summons to Mt. Myoboku, or uses a shadow clone, and sets up a marking there then returns to the battlefield." I tell them the same thing, it's nonsense.




Obito was already defeated and Kurama had already been broken free from his control.

Do you even read the manga?

Minato died that day and Obito didnt you decide who really won