[VS] Nagato>>>Obito

[Draphsin]

It's nonsense in a vs thread.

Lmfao why? Because it's a strategy you can't counter?

Give me the rules of VS threads, show me where it says a character can't leave & return to the battlefield, then I'll concede.

Minato fapboys have said "Minato reverse summons to Mt. Myoboku, or uses a shadow clone, and sets up a marking there then returns to the battlefield." I tell them the same thing, it's nonsense.

If minato had reverse summoning feats, or prepared marks then there's nothing stopping him either.

With prep minato can do what obito can do, & if he does manage to teleport to Mt. Myoboku then it's still fair game. Call it nonsense all you want but I take that as a concession.

 

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Lol Any form of obito with the MS >> Nagato.



& Let's not forget about izanagi.

He doesn't really need it That's why I didn't mention it.

Lel Obito stays close to Nagato? Doing nothing? And you expect Nagato ST when Obito is doing nothing? Lel
And you do realise that if somehow Nagato slipped and got sucked into Kamui he would rape Obito's body parts

Lol what is he going to do? Nothing he does works against Intangibility.

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What? Obito absorbs him end of match. Why would he phase when he already won? Lel indeed.

 

[Demonic.]

Lmfao why? Because it's a strategy you can't counter?

Give me the rules of VS threads, show me where it says a character can't leave & return to the battlefield, then I'll concede.



If minato had reverse summoning feats, or prepared marks then there's nothing stopping him either.

With prep minato can do what obito can do, & if he does manage to teleport to Mt. Myoboku then it's still fair game. Call it nonsense all you want but I take that as a concession.

If you honestly can't see why Obito warping to his lab in the middle of a battle to power himself up by continuing to transplant sharingans to use for Izanagi is nonsense in a vs thread then I am done here Lol


I'll just leave this quote here from someone who is not a fanboy and more logical:

If someone gets teleported to Kaguya's dimension, they got BFR'd as they can't come back. If they get FTG warped to Konoha and they have no S/T ninjutsu to come back, they will have to come back on foot, and by the time they do, the battle is already over, so it's BFR.

But leaving and then immediately coming back isn't and shouldn't be considered BFR. However, teleporting away to rest, wait for an attack's effect to go away or power himself up should indeed be considered BFR

 

[Draphsin]

If you honestly can't see why Obito warping to his lab in the middle of a battle to power himself up by continuing to transplant sharingans to use for Izanagi is nonsense in a vs thread then I am done here Lol

If you can't give me a legitimate reason as to why that's nonsense then you better be done here, because you won't get anywhere without one.

I'll just leave this quote here from someone who is not a fanboy and more logical:

Lmfao well too bad that isn't what constitutes as a BFR.

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If the battlefield doesn't have established physical boundaries, achieving a BFR is tougher and less likely, but not impossible. Generally, it's done by trapping the other person in another time or dimension.

I don't care who you is logical, that doesn't make their words fact. Obito isn't getting himself trapped anywhere, since he can return to the battlefield that means he never suffers from losing via BFR.

 

[Demonic.]

Lmfao why? Because it's a strategy you can't counter?

Give me the rules of VS threads, show me where it says a character can't leave & return to the battlefield, then I'll concede.



If minato had reverse summoning feats, or prepared marks then there's nothing stopping him either.

With prep minato can do what obito can do, & if he does manage to teleport to Mt. Myoboku then it's still fair game. Call it nonsense all you want but I take that as a concession.

Ahuh. Tell me in a MS Obito match, what's to stop Obito from warping to Nagato's corpse, transplanting the Rinnegan, and coming back as Rinnegan Obito? Sounds almost exactly the same as what you're proposing. Getting a bit ridiculous there.

In a vs thread, the only thing that should be taken into account is the match, and the stipulations/conditions set by the OP. Obito's lab shouldn't even be relevant in a vs match. Like I said, I thought you were a logical fan, but I guess I was wrong.

 

[Draphsin]

Ahuh. Tell me in a MS Obito match, what's to stop Obito from warping to Nagato's corpse, transplanting the Rinnegan, and coming back as Rinnegan Obito? Sounds almost exactly the same as what you're proposing. Getting a bit ridiculous there.

That's not impossible but that's not MS obito anymore, if I wanted to gauge the strength between MS obito & another character then this strategy would make that comparison redundant.

Lol it only sounds ridiculous because you don't want to believe it. Ignorance is preventing you from seeing how leaving the battlefield & returning is viable, whether you like it or not.

In a vs thread, the only thing that should be taken into account is the match, and the stipulations/conditions set by the OP.

& Unless the stipulations specifically say that obito can't leave the battlefield & return then nothing is stopping him from doing so.

Obito leaving & returning is part of the match, unless you can prove otherwise.

Obito's lab shouldn't even be relevant in a vs match.

All according to your opinion, OP didn't restrict it, so it's viable.

Like I said, I thought you were a logical fan, but I guess I was wrong.

Do you think I give even the slightest bit of sh*t what you think of me? So because I mention a point that you disagree with [without a legitimate reason as to why] that makes me illogical? Lel, Okay well then I wouldn't want to be considered logical by someone like you anyways if that's the case. u_u

 

[Demonic.]

That's not impossible but that's not MS obito anymore, if I wanted to gauge the strength between MS obito & another character then this strategy would make that comparison redundant.

Lol it only sounds ridiculous because you don't want to believe it. Ignorance is preventing you from seeing how leaving the battlefield & returning is viable, whether you like it or not.



& Unless the stipulations specifically say that obito can't leave the battlefield & return then nothing is stopping him from doing so.

Obito leaving & returning is part of the match, unless you can prove otherwise.



All according to your opinion, OP didn't restrict it, so it's viable.



Do you think I give even the slightest bit of sh*t what you think of me? So because I mention a point that you disagree with [without a legitimate reason as to why] that makes me illogical? Lel, Okay well then I wouldn't want to be considered logical by someone like you anyways if that's the case. u_u

The problem is not with Obito leaving, you fool. Obito can leave the battlefield and come back, and it's not BFR. The problem is powering himself up continuously by going to his lab which is irrelevant to the battle.

Like you said, all matches have a stipulation, if Obito leaves and comes back with a Rinnegan, it wouldn't be MS Obito anymore and it goes against what the OP intended. When an OP says "MS Obito" I'm pretty sure they don't intend Obito to have an unlimited supply of disposable sharingan either, so that's going against the OP as well.

Hell by your logic, Obito can warp akatsuki memebers to come help him in a vs thread as well. Outside sources are not to be taken into account in a vs match , unless specifically stated by the OP.

 

[Sweet Pudding]

We still don't know the limitations or functions of the real Izanagi.

On top of that, since we know he can still use Gedo mazou:

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This would blow shrina tensei right the map

Thinks GM can be summoned w/o a Rinnegan^

 

[Demonic.]

Thinks GM can be summoned w/o a Rinnegan^

Yeah, Pain must have done it off panel. We have seen Pain summon the Mazo in the hideout without actually being in the hideout.

In this form:

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Pain obviously summoned it off panel since the manga confirmed the Rinnegan is needed to summon the Mazo when Madara summoned it to capture the Biju.

 

[VongolaX]

Thinks GM can be summoned w/o a Rinnegan^

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LMFAO XD

You don't know anything about this series do you?

What's the name of this anime/manga that is being discussed here?

I'll give you a hint, it's part of this websites name. Lol....:|

Well?

What else do have?

 

[Draphsin]

The problem is not with Obito leaving, you fool.

Lel I'm the fool? That's rich.

Obito can leave the battlefield and come back, and it's not BFR. The problem is powering himself up continuously.

He's not powering up...He's replacing a lost eye, that's like saying he can't leave to heal himself or replenish chakra...

Like you said, all matches have a stipulation, if Obito leaves and comes back with a Rinnegan, it wouldn't be MS Obito anymore and it goes against what the OP intended.

Well that isn't the case in this thread so I fail to see how that holds any relevance. Obito isn't powering up, he's refilling/healing/replacing his jutsu & his eye.

When an OP says "MS Obito" I'm pretty sure they don't intend Obito to have an unlimited supply of disposable sharingan either, so that's going against the OP as well.

That's just your opinion, unless the OP himself says it or unless specified in the OP then there's absolutely no reason why I should believe this.

Hell by your logic, Obito can warp akatsuki memebers to come help him in a vs thread as well. Outside sources are not to be taken into account in a vs match , unless specifically stated by the OP.

Smfh.... If obito gets help it doesn't become a 1v1 anymore, stop trying to break my logic with retarded examples that obviously don't apply to it in any way. Your logic suggests that obito can't teleport away to heal, grabbing another eye for himself does nothing except give him another chance to use izanagi, therefore nothing is stopping him from doing it.

He's not powering up, he's not getting help, he's accessing what's available to him in order to heal, get it through your head for god's sake.

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[Demonic.]

Lel I'm the fool? That's rich.



He's not powering up...He's replacing a lost eye, that's like saying he can't leave to heal himself or replenish chakra...



Well that isn't the case in this thread so I fail to see how that holds any relevance. Obito isn't powering up, he's refilling/healing/replacing his jutsu & his eye.



That's just your opinion, unless the OP himself says it or unless specified in the OP then there's absolutely no reason why I should believe this.



Smfh.... If obito gets help it doesn't become a 1v1 anymore, stop trying to break my logic with retarded examples that obviously don't apply to it in any way. Your logic suggests that obito can't teleport away to heal, grabbing another eye for himself does nothing except give him another chance to use izanagi, therefore nothing is stopping him from doing it.

He's not powering up, he's not getting help, he's accessing what's available to him in order to heal, get it through your head for god's sake.

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Right...teleporting away from a match in order to heal....in a vs thread no less...Obitards and their logic.

Not even Kishi resorts to your dumbass biased point of view.

 

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To be honest, If obito does teleport away to nagato's corpse, i think that would qualify as an automatic victory.

 

[Draphsin]

Right...teleporting away from a match in order to heal....in a vs thread no less...Obitards and their logic.

Not even Kishi resorts to your dumbass biased point of view.

F*cking retard, don't get upset because obito can teleport, now he can't heal according to your moronic logic? Get the hell out of here, your creadibility has been shattered. & I'm the fanboy? Oh please, you loser, just because your ass got solo'd on a silver platter & you're butthurt about it you think I'm a fanboy. Lol, Get some sense then come back to this thread.

 

[Demonic.]

F*cking retard, don't get upset because obito can teleport, now he can't heal according to your moronic logic? Get the hell out of here, your creadibility has been shattered. & I'm the fanboy? Oh please, you loser, just because your ass got solo'd on a silver platter & you're butthurt about it that makes me a fanboy? Get some sense then come back to this thread.

I'm the butthurt one and you're calling me a retard and a loser? Lol.

And you didn't solo shit. I asked for other debater's opinion on this discussion and they told me not to waste my time with you and your shitty ass claims. Retarded really...how you can't see something wrong with a character leaving the battle in a VS thread to keep restocking eyes lmao.

 

[Draphsin]

I'm the butthurt one and you're calling me a retard and a loser? Lol.

I can call your stupid ass whatever I like, I'm not the one who isn't stumped on the argument.

And you didn't solo shit.

I f*cking obliterated you.

I asked for other debater's opinion on this discussion and they told me not to waste my time with you and your shitty ass claims.

Hahahahaha!! So asking other people's opinions on a matter makes me wrong? Oh man...More of that incessant dribble spewing from your mouth I see. Lol

Don't be mad that you can't counter my strategy, you can make up all the fake little rules you want, doesn't make the sh*t you spout any less wrong.

Also give me these guy's names.

Retarded really...how you can't see something wrong with a character leaving the battle in a VS thread to keep restocking eyes lmao.

You still haven't explained what's wrong with it so keep trying buddy. Until you give me a valid reason your nonsense will remain nonsense & you have absolutely nothing more to contribute.

 

[Demonic.]

I can call your stupid ass whatever I like, I'm not the one who isn't stumped on the argument.

Stumped? I'm stumped a stupid ass argument like going back to a lab and restocking eyes was even made

I f*cking obliterated you.

Difference between obliterating someone and being an ignorant fanboy.

Also give me these guy's names.

So you can get mad and curse at them too? Lol. Sorry, I won't do that.

 

[Draphsin]

Stumped?

That's right, stumped.

I'm stumped a stupid ass argument like going back to a lab and restocking eyes was even made

- Calls the argument stupid

- Can't explain why

Genius logic right here people.

Difference between obliterating someone and being an ignorant fanboy.

Unfortunately you can't seem to tell the difference. U_U

So you can get mad and curse at them too? Lol. Sorry, I won't do that.

Lol So now cursing isn't allowed? I'm sick of your sh*t & you don't deserve to be spoken to nicely, hence the cursing. I'm not going to waste my time trying to act nice in front of an idiot.

I just want to know the names of the people you're using as "reliable" sources because from what I can tell so far you're making sh*t up.

It does make you wrong if I ask a number of peoples opinions, that are pretty well known on this site as the best.

No it doesn't retard, they have just as much knowledge about the manga as I do so unless they have a valid reason themselves as to why it won't work then they're in the same boat as you.

I'm not mad at all.

Then stick to the argument.

I shouldn't have to even counter your strategy.

Yes you do otherwise it's a concession.

The fact that you even claimed such a preposterous strategy is mind boggling.

Yet your stupid ass still can't explain the preposterousness behind it, lmfao.

I guess one of the debaters I asked is your friend but he said

Again, using other people's opinion's as evidence, how low can you get? U_U Next you're going to start making sh*t up & passing it off as fact yourself.

 

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And then in the Kamui Land Nagato eats Obito's body parts

@Draphsin
Did you seriously think Obito can just warp back to his lab and start switching eyes? Lel i am too full to eat those beans you have prepared.

With Nagato there, it effectively ends the fight. Obito can then put him in a Genjutsu because it's his dimension, and then end Nagato right then and there.

 

[Demonic.]

That's right, stumped.



- Calls the argument stupid

- Can't explain why

Genius logic right here people.



Unfortunately you can't seem to tell the difference. U_U



Lol So now cursing isn't allowed? I'm sick of your sh*t & you don't deserve to be spoken to nicely, hence the cursing. I'm not going to waste my time trying to act nice in front of an idiot.

I just want to know the names of the people you're using as "reliable" sources because from what I can tell so far you're making sh*t up.



No it doesn't retard, they have just as much knowledge about the manga as I do so unless they have a valid reason themselves as to why it won't work then they're in the same boat as you.



Then stick to the argument.



Yes you do otherwise it's a concession.



Yet your stupid ass still can't explain the preposterousness behind it, lmfao.



Again, using other people's opinion's as evidence, how low can you get? U_U Next you're going to start making sh*t up & passing it off as fact yourself.

Lol I already gave my reason. But i'll go more into detail with it.

-An unlimited supply of Sharingan would most likely be going against what the OP intended.

-You already acknowledged Obito going to Nagato's corpse to retrieve his Rinnegan shouldn't be allowed because it would no longer be "MS Obito" hence it would be going against the OP's intentions.

-There is a chance an unlimited supply of Sharingan will not be going against the OP's intentions, but that's a slim chance because it is very unfair anyway you look at it

So more than likely, your preposition will not be valid in a thread. Even though it's possible. Never claimed it wasn't.