[VS] Nagato>>>Obito

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MS obito has multiple eyes....

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Not to mention each one lasts 10 minutes, more than enough time to warp him away.



That makes absolutely no difference, nagato uses ST & knocks obito back, during which time obito warps back to nagato & warps him away during the 5-sec cooldown. Of course he suffers damage, but nagato loses the match.

& With izanagi active he doesn't even need to warp back to nagato, he'll just end up behind him like .

Well I do agree that Obito > nagato without 6 pain bodies but with pain nagato takes this

They share field of vision
Nagato is sensor he could sense obito.
Obito need some time to materialise when he is warping himself
 

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Obito exploits the 5 second cool-down and he only stays close to Nagato. He uses Kamui the instant the cool down starts. Obito can warp himself faster than KCM Naruto who is faster than Ay can touch him. Absorbing others is also much faster. [ ] [ ] Base Naruto could throw a clone faster than ST abilities came back to Deva. [ ]

I didn't mention Mouton because it isn't needed and Obito's mokuton is weak.

5 seconds cool-down and Kamui are too much for Nagato to handle.
Lel Obito stays close to Nagato? Doing nothing? And you expect Nagato ST when Obito is doing nothing? Lel
And you do realise that if somehow Nagato slipped and got sucked into Kamui he would rape Obito's body parts
MS obito has multiple eyes....

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Your point?

Not to mention each one lasts 10 minutes, more than enough time to warp him away.
Obito can use Izanagi only once



That makes absolutely no difference, nagato uses ST & knocks obito back, during which time obito warps back to nagato & warps him away during the 5-sec cooldown. Of course he suffers damage, but nagato loses the match.
Beautiful beans
Obito isnt a fricking tanker to use Kamui after being knocked up buy ST. He doesnt have Katsuya or Bunshins to heal/help him

And ST would severly damage Obito and would even destroy half of his soft Zetsu body

& With izanagi active he doesn't even need to warp back to nagato, he'll just end up behind him like .
Your point? Nagato would sense Chakra build up in the eye and would be guard and no way in hell Obito sneeks up on Nagato like he did to Konan
 

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Obito wins. Shinra Tensei isn't a counter. This battle ends as fast as Obito wants it to. Warp in front of Nagato, passive intangibility activates; Nagato senses him in front and fires off Shinra Tensei, it fails and Obito takes no damage, and then Obito proceeds to warp Nagato and end the battle.
 

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Well I do agree that Obito > nagato without 6 pain bodies but with pain nagato takes this

The 6P0P are worse off against obito.

They share field of vision

Obito can produce a bakufuu ranbu which disrupts their FoV.

Obito can appear from , or .

But this doesn't prevent them from getting warped anyways, even if they can see obito they still can't react.

Nagato is sensor he could sense obito.

Pein only has contact sensory feats, [ ] he had to use in order to sense [which is useless if obito is intangible].

Obito need some time to materialise when he is warping himself

He warped inside of a jinton, grabbed sasuke, & warped back out all before it could do anything to them. [ ] Not to mention karin [an uzumaki sensor like nagato] failed to notice this & mistook the warp for sasuke getting obliterated. [ ]

Nagato needs lightning quick reflexes in order to react to obito's warp, & unfortunately he doesn't have them.

Your point?

Obito can use Izanagi only once

He can use izanagi as much as he wants thanks to his stockpile, he can warp back to his lab as many times as he needs to since he can come right back.

& Anyways he has 10 minutes, if you think that nagato can evade obito's warp for 10 minutes then juts log off now & save yourself the trouble.

Obito isnt a fricking tanker to use Kamui after being knocked up buy ST. He doesnt have Katsuya or Bunshins to heal/help him

Laughable, obito has used kamui in much worse conditions. [ - - - ] Not to mention he's tanked rasengan [ ] multiple times & has senju dna to help speed up his recovery process. [ ]

Katsuyu & clones aren't the only way you can tank an attack that couldn't even kill hinata. & Most of the damage dealt is caused by making contact with something which isn't happening as long as obito can warp & become intangible.

Plus izanagi rewrites the entire thing & he appears behind nagato during the 5-sec cooldown. He has no chance here.

And ST would severly damage Obito and would even destroy half of his soft Zetsu body

Smh No it wouldn't. None of naruto's rasengans destroyed obito's body, . Why? Because he smashed obito's body into the ground with it whereas naruto's rasengan didn't. [ ] ST generates most of it's damage from the impact that it causes, since obito bypasses this portion of the attack that means he isn't suffering anywhere near the amount of damage that minato caused him & it will end up more like what happened with naruto.

Your point? Nagato would sense Chakra build up in the eye and would be guard and no way in hell Obito sneeks up on Nagato like he did to Konan

Again laughable, Izanagi grants 10 minutes of invincibility. What does that mean? It means that obito can tank every single attack that nagato throws at him with no damage, & during this time nagato gets warped away.

Okay cool, nagato nagato is on guard, doesn't change the fact that he still gets warped away because he literally can't do a single thing to stop the warp from happening.

Fuu/torune were on guard, they got warped. Same thing happens here.
 
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Obito wins. Shinra Tensei isn't a counter. This battle ends as fast as Obito wants it to. Warp in front of Nagato, passive intangibility activates; Nagato senses him in front and fires off Shinra Tensei, it fails and Obito takes no damage, and then Obito proceeds to warp Nagato and end the battle.

And then in the Kamui Land Nagato eats Obito's body parts

@Draphsin
Did you seriously think Obito can just warp back to his lab and start switching eyes? Lel i am too full to eat those beans you have prepared.
 

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@Draphsin
Did you seriously think Obito can just warp back to his lab and start switching eyes? Lel i am too full to eat those beans you have prepared.

Give me a single reason why he can't.
 

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MS obito has multiple eyes....

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Not to mention each one lasts 10 minutes, more than enough time to warp him away.



That makes absolutely no difference, nagato uses ST & knocks obito back, during which time obito warps back to nagato & warps him away during the 5-sec cooldown. Of course he suffers damage, but nagato loses the match.

& With izanagi active he doesn't even need to warp back to nagato, he'll just end up behind him like .

While I agree Obito takes this and you always come up with some good points buffing Obito, I still dont like your idea of him running away from the battlefield to restock I think its unfair and should not be used in a VS thread
 

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Nagato is overall more powerful, it's true. Not even going to waste my time on Obitards though.

He can use izanagi as much as he wants thanks to his stockpile, he can warp back to his lab as many times as he needs to since he can come right back.

Oh god, Lol. And here I was thinking you were one of the more logical Obito fans on here. Spouting the same bs Synkross does.
 
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Nagato has more raw power but all of his jutsus are rendered to useless against Kamui. Plus he is slow without Paths.
 

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Won't back up his statement. Calls those that disagree "Obitards"

You think MS Obito is more powerful than Nagato? You're either an Obitard or a retard. Obito beats him solely due to Kamui.
 

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You think MS Obito is more powerful than Nagato? You're either an Obitard or a retard. Obito beats him solely due to Kamui.

If you took five minutes to actually read thread you'd see that kamui is not the only reason Obito wins. That sir is a fact.
 

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If you took five minutes to actually read thread you'd see that kamui is not the only reason Obito wins. That sir is a fact.

Kamui is the only reason Obito wins, you retard. Nagato's lack of a counter to Kamui is the reason why Obito wins.

---Minato shits on Obito every single time because he has the perfect counter to Obito's Kamui, FTG.
---Nagato shits on Minato because Nagato is too powerful for a base Minato to take down.
----Obito beats Nagato because Nagato has no counter for Kamui.

Simple as that.
 

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Kamui is the only reason Obito wins, you retard. Nagato's lack of a counter to Kamui is the reason why Obito wins.

---Minato shits on Obito every single time because he has the perfect counter to Obito's Kamui, FTG.
---Nagato shits on Minato because Nagato is too powerful for a base Minato to take down.
----Obito beats Nagato because Nagato has no counter for Kamui.

Simple as that.

Funny how you think Minato beats Obito when 14 year old Obito had Minato on the ropes.

And you call me the retard

Simple as that. :cool:
 

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Funny how you think Minato beats Obito when 14 year old Obito had Minato on the ropes.

And you call me the retard

Simple as that. :cool:

Except, Minato had no knowledge on Kamui.

Except, Minato didn't even use shadow clones (that can also use FTG and render warping useless).

Except, despite these facts, Minato still won.

How do you think the fight would go if Minato has full intel and uses shadows clones? Use your brain, fapboy.
 

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While I agree Obito takes this and you always come up with some good points buffing Obito, I still dont like your idea of him running away from the battlefield to restock I think its unfair and should not be used in a VS thread

Unless it's restricted then there's nothing stopping him from doing so though. It may not be fair, but sometimes that's how matches are. If there was a valid reason as to why obito can't go back & get another eye then the case would be different, but there isn't.

Oh god, Lol. And here I was thinking you were one of the more logical Obito fans on here. Spouting the same bs Synkross does.

Lol & Why is it bs? What reasoning do you have that prevents obito from getting another eye?
 

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Except, Minato had no knowledge on Kamui.

Except, Minato didn't even use shadow clones (that can also use FTG and render warping useless).

Except, despite these facts, Minato still won.

How do you think the fight would go if Minato has full intel and uses shadows clones? Use your brain, fapboy.

Funny how Minato won right?

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Unless it's restricted then there's nothing stopping him from doing so though. It may not be fair, but sometimes that's how matches are. If there was a valid reason as to why obito can't go back & get another eye then the case would be different, but there isn't.



Lol & Why is it bs? What reasoning do you have that prevents obito from getting another eye?

It's nonsense in a vs thread.

Minato fapboys have said "Minato reverse summons to Mt. Myoboku, or uses a shadow clone, and sets up a marking there then returns to the battlefield." I tell them the same thing, it's nonsense.


Funny how Minato won right?

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Obito was already defeated and Kurama had already been broken free from his control.

Do you even read the manga?
 

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Not sure. Kamui and izanagi seems tough to counter.
 

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Not sure. Kamui and izanagi seems tough to counter.

We still don't know the limitations or functions of the real Izanagi.

On top of that, since we know he can still use Gedo mazou:



This would blow shrina tensei right the map
 
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