[VS] Sasori vs Tsunade

[shelke]

Sasori wanted to turn them into Human Puppets Chiyo explained the situation, if he wants to turn you into a human puppet he needs to keep you alive not use a corpse.

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That scence Sasori claimed he needed to stop using such little chakra in the viz scan I don't have it but imma look for it.

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The stamina part Sasori is betters then Tsnuade for sure in the databook he has a 5 were Tsnuade has a 4 , Sasori doesn't have a real body he doesn't tire out or body hurt from pain or Exhaustion the man doesn't even eat.

The whole battle with Sasori vs Chiyo & Sakura made them look bad all over.

1. Sasori used a large amount of chakra sealing a bijuu into the gedo manzo statue 3 days straight.
2. He wasn't trying to his full extent because turning someone into a human puppet requires you to keep them alive not a corpse.
3. Sakura wasn't even given intel on Sasori & his poison when Sasori had no intel on her what so ever.
4. Sakura came prepared with antidote for his poison without his knowledge.
5. The Sadist part even with all those advantages in the end he choose to be killed by Chiyo when he could of just dodged & killed her.

Chiyo with a speed of 4 had to use Chakra shield twice because she couldn't dodge his attacks you gonna tell me Tsnuade with a speed of 3.5 is going to evade ever last attack ?

Because Sasori puppets speed range from which one he's using & limited resources

Yes, I am well-aware about Human puppets. But the scan I posted happens later. Sasori was bent on killing them then. He states so himself. He attacked Chiyo and Sakura many times to kill them.

He says, "I have to use a bit of chakra" for his next attack, World Model, obviously. That doesn't refute the point I was trying to make, that Sakura was seeing through his attacks and he acknowledges it.

You realize that she has a seal, right? Sasori's physical energy is limitless, which is why he has a five. He doesn't get tired. My point is that unlike Sakura here - who doesn't have her seal - Tsunade not only has Senju lineage, but, she also has her seal, which grants massive chakra as well. Remember how Sakura supplied Obito with the chakra to shift dimensions, when they require heavy chakra? Tsunade is not at a disadvantage here, as she used her seal, and healed Kages in war. So, she won't exhaust as quickly, which gives her ample time to weigh her moves and use high jumps as well, which we learned in part one that they require chakra concentration in the legs.

- He seemed replenished. Manga doesn't state otherwise. Even Deidara only comments on his chakra to not make more clay bombs, because of his fight with the Jin.
- After that scan? No, he went at them with an intent to kill later. He states it himself. I even showed you the scan.
- Sakura is a CQC fighter. Intel wouldn't have aided Sasori at all, and the antidote lasts for 3 minutes only. Hardly an advantage in battle when all attacks use poison one way or another.
- She can jump. Sasori comments that it has to be avoided, because it is unblockable. Remember how she jumped higher than Bunta?

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

Yes, I am well-aware about Human puppets. But the scan I posted happens later. Sasori was bent on killing them then. He states so himself. He attacked Chiyo and Sakura many times to kill them.

He says, "I have to use a bit of chakra" for his next attack, World Model, obviously. That doesn't refute the point I was trying to make, that Sakura was seeing through his attacks and he acknowledges it.

You realize that she has a seal, right? Sasori's physical energy is limitless, which is why he has a five. He doesn't get tired. My point is that unlike Sakura here - who doesn't have her seal - Tsunade not only has Senju lineage, but, she also has her seal, which grants massive chakra as well. Remember how Sakura supplied Obito with the chakra to shift dimensions, when they require heavy chakra? Tsunade is not at a disadvantage here, as she used her seal, and healed Kages in war. So, she won't exhaust as quickly, which gives her ample time to weigh her moves and use high jumps as well, which we learned in part one that they require chakra concentration in the legs.

- He seemed replenished. Manga doesn't state otherwise. Even Deidara only comments on his chakra to not make more clay bombs, because of his fight with the Jin.
- After that scan? No, he went at them with an intent to kill later. He states it himself. I even showed you the scan.
- Sakura is a CQC fighter. Intel wouldn't have aided Sasori at all, and the antidote lasts for 3 minutes only. Hardly an advantage in battle when all attacks use poison one way or another.
- She can jump. Sasori comments that it has to be avoided, because it is unblockable. Remember how she jumped higher than Bunta?

Yes I realize she has a seal

His chakra was replenished really? They just finished sealing a bijuu 3 days straight there's no way that didn't take up a lot of chakra the moment they did they arrived at the cave entrance. How is Sasori knowing intel on Sakura not a factor he would have never been so reckless with his kazekage puppet if he had known. How was Sasori hell bent when lady chiyo herself stated he chose not to kill her in the end?

 

[shelke]

- I said he seemed replenished. Sasori doesn't comment on low reserves at all. Which makes it a moot point. Okay, let's give him more chakra, hypothetically speaking. What is changed in that fight?

- Because she has no other skills in offense. What would it change? He would have only used world model early. That is all.

- It seems like he changed his mind in the end. It doesn't mean that he didn't blitz her twice with knives out to cut her open. Had Sakura not stepped in both times, Chiyo was toast.

 

[Hagoromo Reanimation]

Chiyo wasn't even there when Sakura fodderized the Kazekage. Even Sasori was impressed, and canonically admitted that Sakura is a force to be reckoned with. Not Chiyo, but Sakura. .

Also keep in mind Tsunade also has antidotes, and she is better than early part2 Sakura and Chiyo combined. She is faster, smarter, stronger and has more impressive CqC feats. I probably shouldn't even mention her chakra reserves and immortality technique.

Still doesn't change the fact that she rescued her multiple times lmao Even so he was impressed the Kazekage puppet was giving Sakura the works the the bases of she had help and antidote that saved her life. CQC your point Sasori has Long Range and a Body that Repairs

 

[TheEvilOne]

Yes I realize she has a seal

His chakra was replenished really? They just finished sealing a bijuu 3 days straight there's no way that didn't take up a lot of chakra the moment they did they arrived at the cave entrance. How is Sasori knowing intel on Sakura not a factor he would have never been so reckless with his kazekage puppet if he had known. How was Sasori hell bent when lady chiyo herself stated he chose not to kill her in the end?

But he had intel on her strength as Sakura smashed Hiruko with one hit. The intel isn't helping him here, because Tsunade has the luxury to create an opening by letting herself stabbed ( for example ) and send him to oblivion and back with a falcon punch.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

- I said he seemed replenished. Sasori doesn't comment on low reserves at all. Which makes it a moot point. Okay, let's give him more chakra, hypothetically speaking. What is changed in that fight?

- Because she has no other skills in offense. What would it change? He would have only used world model early. That is all.

- It seems like he changed his mind in the end. It doesn't mean that he didn't blitz her twice with knives out to cut her open. Had Sakura not stepped in both times, Chiyo was toast.

It changes a lot if he did know she had to antinode the first time he struck her he would have had the Kazekage puppet rush in until he fully knew she ran out or were to aim like Sasori stated before he aim at vital spots were medical ninja had a problem healing or can repair. I know Tsnuade has a large chakra reserve i'll give it up for her Healing abilities yes they are good top tier material, but long range tactics gives Sasori more of the advantage here.

But he had intel on her strength as Sakura smashed Hiruko with one hit. The intel isn't helping him here, because Tsunade has the luxury to create an opening by letting herself stabbed ( for example ) and send him to oblivion and back with a falcon punch.

Getting intel before a battle and in the middle makes a big difference Iron Sand mashes Tsnuades brains out of existence , lets see her dash in recklessly with iron sand in place cutting her head off.

 

[shelke]

Well, I have said what I could on this topic. Let's agree to disagree.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Getting intel before a battle and in the middle makes a big difference Iron Sand mashes Tsnuades brains out of existence , lets see her dash in recklessly with iron sand in place cutting her head off.

That stupid argument again. Sasori never tried to attack Sakura's, Chiyo's or even Kankuro's head. Also even Sakura was able to avoid the iron sand forest, she got only a small scratch. Hell, she even blew herself up with a paper bomb and tanked it without a scratch.

Still not changing the fact that he had intel on Sakura's strength and he still walked into her trap. There is absolutely no way for Sasori to win this.

 

[Icelerate]

What is this fanfiction? Iron sand was only able to pierce Sakura yet Tsunade who is faster than that Sakura is going to get skewered andhave her faced smashed into oblivion instead?

OT: Tsunade should win with mid difficulty under these conditions.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

That stupid argument again. Sasori never tried to attack Sakura's, Chiyo's or even Kankuro's head. Also even Sakura was able to avoid the iron sand forest, she got only a small scratch. Hell, she even blew herself up with a paper bomb and tanked it without a scratch.

Still not changing the fact that he had intel on Sakura's strength and he still walked into her trap. There is absolutely no way for Sasori to win this.

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asori wanted to turn them into Human Puppets Chiyo explained the situation, if he wants to turn you into a human puppet he needs to keep you alive not use a corpse.

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Depending on the person your fightning you change your fightning style you derp, when have sakura ever let someone control her movements with a chakra string before that and after that Sasori fight i'm waiting ever in a battle? Why because it was better suited for that situation and it still doesn't change the fact he didn't have the intel before the battle Iron Sand to the head now you know she dead lol.

 

[Shitenshin no jutsu]

War arc Tsunade >>> Early Part 2 Sakura and Chiyo.

Tsunade mid diffs. Low with antidotes.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

unrestricted sasori beats unrestricted Tsunade mid diff.

Katsuyu's gigantic,she will cover the while cave.Once she releases her acid.Sasori is screwed.The puppets strings + Katsuya can minimize and get on all his puppets.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

IS Storm ends this, they're way to fast to dodge and way to small to either deflect or block with mere strength.

Chiyo reacted to them, and Tsunade has better feats in this regard than her. She's going to be able to react and evade them handily.

Flights not needed and Sasori's flight is pathetic anyways. If she follows Sasori has plenty of ways to stop her mid air? Flame throwers? Intercepting puppets? 100 Hands? Thats an idiotic idea, as a wise Ino once said U_U There is no dodging in mid-air

I counted his flight because it's still a viable strategy Sasori can use to make distance; Something a puppetier needs. Regardless of how effective it is compared to others, Sasori could do it. Flame Throwers? She punched away Madara's fire balls easily, while worn out after a long battle.

It's entirely dependent on when this occurs, for the puppets. Of course if she just leaps into the air when the hundred+ puppets come out, she's going to be receiving many hits from them. But, if it's solely the Iron Sand/KazeKage out? She's not going to have a hard time. But, even if Tsunade is not able to immediately leap at Sasori she can still play around with his puppets and destroy them as they come at her.

Making it all the easier to later attack him directly.

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No way, her acid is not landing on such minimal IS Bullets... Which really do the damage here it has literally no speed feats.


OT: Sasori has range AKA GG Tsunade

His attacking speed is, for the most part, pitiful. Tsunade is capable of evading his puppets and most of the Iron Sand, with the exception of the Iron Sand World attack. Tsunade closes the distance and destroys the Third KazeKage.

Zex; It's a huge, huge wall of Acid flying in the air. There's no need to be precise. The bullets, as long as they are in the large path of the acid, will be melted.

 

[Zexion~]

Chiyo reacted to them, and Tsunade has better feats in this regard than her. She's going to be able to react and evade them handily.


I counted his flight because it's still a viable strategy Sasori can use to make distance; Something a puppetier needs. Regardless of how effective it is compared to others, Sasori could do it. Flame Throwers? She punched away Madara's fire balls easily, while worn out after a long battle.

It's entirely dependent on when this occurs, for the puppets. Of course if she just leaps into the air when the hundred+ puppets come out, she's going to be receiving many hits from them. But, if it's solely the Iron Sand/KazeKage out? She's not going to have a hard time. But, even if Tsunade is not able to immediately leap at Sasori she can still play around with his puppets and destroy them as they come at her.

Making it all the easier to later attack him directly.


His attacking speed is, for the most part, pitiful. Tsunade is capable of evading his puppets and most of the Iron Sand, with the exception of the Iron Sand World attack. Tsunade closes the distance and destroys the Third KazeKage.

Zex; It's a huge, huge wall of Acid flying in the air. There's no need to be precise. The bullets, as long as they are in the large path of the acid, will be melted.

The same acid that barely melt rock? Its not a huge wall btw? Its spurts of it, it has gaps some are easily going to get through and reacting to move a finger =/= Reacting to move your entire body? She gets wrecked by it... Besides besides hype she has next to no reaction feats lml

Ughhh brugh punchin away a constant barage of flame is not a fire ball.... She'll heal but it will still stop her momentum and not allow Sasori to continue

Pitiful attacking speed? lml Chiyo had to resort to using chakra shields instead of dodging why because she can't dodge it

You're jumping arguments make no sense, if she jumps Sasori has plenty of ways to deter her jumping he doesn't have to hurt her :| Also if she jumps she can't avoid an IS bullet or Stake attack, Jumping is honestly the worst possible plan of action as she has no where to go :|


Anyone please tell me how Tsunade dodges this :|

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Its not happening anyone who thinks though is spouting pure idiocy :| It has a wide range and intense speed theres nothing she can do? Especially without Katsuyu

 

[TheTailedSage]

Even early part2 Sakura shitted on it with no diff

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She done nothing of the sort. She was Assisted by chiyo and even still struggled to win. You already know this. She didnt dodge Iron forest by herself. If Sakura was by herself there is no way in hell she would of survived. Her strength isn't enough to even bypass Iron sand defense. Even it it was enough, touching the sand is lethal, so she has very little option

 

[Zexion~]

People don't realize that it was Chiyo's puppet masters touch that won that match .... Tsunade doesn't have that here she gets soloed

 

[super yang]

People don't realize that it was Chiyo's puppet masters touch that won that match .... Tsunade doesn't have that here she gets soloed

yep, the only reason Sasori is ''stronger'' than Chiyo is because of all his supplementary ninjutsu that allowed him to forego his humanity & transcend the human limit of ''1 puppet per finger'' as well as his sealing of the puppets original/human chakra.

in life, Sasori was the best poison maker & bukijutsu innovator/genius, while chiyo was the Czar of combat puppetry, apparently

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Sasori wins this

 

[TheEvilOne]

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She done nothing of the sort. She was Assisted by chiyo and even still struggled to win. You already know this. She didnt dodge Iron forest by herself. If Sakura was by herself there is no way in hell she would of survived. Her strength isn't enough to even bypass Iron sand defense. Even it it was enough, touching the sand is lethal, so she has very little option

Except Chiyo was busy not getting killed when Sakura soloed the Kazekage.

 

[Sound]

Sasori med diff. Once Satetsu is up she is done for.