[VS] Sasori vs Tsunade

[Draphsin]

If Sakura can dodge Sasori's attacks, I cannot see how Tsunade cannot.

She didn't though, she had help from chiyo the entire time who was canonically stated to be a perfect counter to sasori & his moveset. [

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Even with that, she failed to react to sasori's fastest moving satetsu barrage & had to resort to blocking, a tactic that will spell the end for tsunade here. [

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Since sasori can levitate via satetsu, all he has to do is simply spam these fast-moving projectiles constantly until she gets peppered.

 

[shelke]

She didn't though, she had help from chiyo the entire time who was canonically stated to be a perfect counter to sasori & his moveset. [

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Even with that, she failed to react to sasori's fastest moving satetsu barrage & had to resort to blocking, a tactic that will spell the end for tsunade here. [

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Since sasori can levitate via satetsu, all he has to do is simply spam these fast-moving projectiles constantly until she gets peppered.

She also said that she was able to see through those attacks not long ago. I also made a point that Tsunade is much faster than that Sakura. It makes no sense for her to be at her level. Sakura dodged quite a lot of attacks early on. Her world model and puppet dodges were impressive. I am aware that Chiyo helped her, as she got nicked in the end as well, which is why Chiyo died. She couldn't see the puppet and react fast enough.

But, we are brought back to square one that Tsunade is faster. Hence the reason why I brought that whole point up.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Tsunade has much better reaction time, CqC and speed feats than early part2 Sakura.

 

[Draphsin]

She also said that she was able to see through those attacks not long ago.

After she was given multiple free passes from chiyo. Had she not been there, she would've been peppered.

I also made a point that Tsunade is much faster than that Sakura. It makes no sense for her to be at her level.

But in order for this to have any validity in her ability to avoid the satetsu in question you'd have to prove that tsunade's speed/reactions are better than chiyo's insight/puppeteering.

Sakura dodged quite a lot of attacks early on. Her world model and puppet dodges were impressive.

Again, with chiyo's help was she able to dodge any of the satetsu.

But, we are brought back to square one that Tsunade is faster. Hence the reason why I brought that whole point up.

& To this I say just because tsunade is faster than someone who couldn't dodge sasori's attacks doesn't mean she has the ability to dodge them.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasori mid diffs.

 

[shelke]

After she was given multiple free passes from chiyo. Had she not been there, she would've been peppered.

But in order for this to have any validity in her ability to avoid the satetsu in question you'd have to prove that tsunade's speed/reactions are better than chiyo's insight/puppeteering.



Again, with chiyo's help was she able to dodge any of the satetsu.

& To this I say just because tsunade is faster than someone who couldn't dodge sasori's attacks doesn't mean she has the ability to dodge them.

Forget Sakura, Draphsin. I made an analogy for the attacks she DID dodge.

No. Puppeteer's reactions is not something out of the world. We saw Omoi dupe and cut the strings much faster than Sasori could react. He couldn't even reattach them in time and was dragged down because of it.

Which brings me to the 'see through' point and the last part where she dodged many puppets on her own? But why are you still stuck at Sakura? I made an analogy. This isn't Sakura versus Sasori.

What makes you assume she won't? The fact that an old old, old woman could react in time, Sakura herself jumped over many puppets that attacked her simultaneously ... it goes against Sasori if anything, if you add Omoi as well.

 

[Zexion~]

If Sakura can dodge Sasori's attacks, I cannot see how Tsunade cannot. She dodged all of his attacks, and was much slower than Tsunade then. She even jumped over the combined attacks of several puppets. With her immortality seal active, I think she can keep the poison suppressed long enough to last in battle.

She can jump insanely high as well. Chakra isn't a problem for her. Iron sand is countered with punches and the puppet is smashed. Those hundred puppets aren't as fast as most imagine, as Sakura was able to evade many of them simultaneously. Tsunade is much much faster compared to that Sakura, and has plenty of chakra to last long in the battle.

She takes it mid difference.

She dodged his slowest attacks? Don't tell me you see her dodging IS bullets or IS stakes? Or even ISWO? Bruh You can't be that ignorant of the battle?

 

[Xlad]

Going with Sasori.

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade wins this by hype and feats.
She easily countered chiyos poison and embarrassed her lol.
Tsunade shits

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

Forget Sakura, Draphsin. I made an analogy for the attacks she DID dodge.

No. Puppeteer's reactions is not something out of the world. We saw Omoi dupe and cut the strings much faster than Sasori could react. He couldn't even reattach them in time and was dragged down because of it.

Which brings me to the 'see through' point and the last part where she dodged many puppets on her own? But why are you still stuck at Sakura? I made an analogy. This isn't Sakura versus Sasori.

What makes you assume she won't? The fact that an old old, old woman could react in time, Sakura herself jumped over many puppets that attacked her simultaneously ... it goes against Sasori if anything, if you add Omoi as well.

Sakura was saved how many times by chiyo & vice versa compared to only two times they actually hit him here's the proof.

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Sasori wasn't trying to fully all out kill them he was trying to turn them into human puppets which he needs to keep them alive for the process.

With the omi situation he was controlling multiple people will fightning multiple enemies Sasori may not have the best speed out there compared to the top tier characters but it's pretty good.

 

[Lariatoo]

Gotta go with Sasori, specially with restricted Katsuyu.
No intel on poison? Sasori easily. Tsunade preder to tank an attack and use that as a surprise counterattack than evade.
She will get poisoned, and once poisoned it's over.

 

[shelke]

She dodged his slowest attacks? Don't tell me you see her dodging IS bullets or IS stakes? Or even ISWO? Bruh You can't be that ignorant of the battle?

Sakura was saved how many times by chiyo & vice versa compared to only two times they actually hit him here's the proof.

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Sasori wasn't trying to fully all out kill them he was trying to turn them into human puppets which he needs to keep them alive for the process.

With the omi situation he was controlling multiple people will fightning multiple enemies Sasori may not have the best speed out there compared to the top tier characters but it's pretty good.

Is this Sakura versus Sasori? Which part of my post about 'Analogy' didn't get to you people? I am well aware what she dodged and what she didn't dodge. My point: IF Sakura can start to see through his attacks and dodge them at the end with finesse, what's stopping Tsunade? Unless you people believe she's as slow as this Sakura, then I am not agreeing with such an absurd statement.

Sakura began to see through those attacks quite early on:

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- Note the term "even without my assistance, she can do it". Which means Sakura could have done all the punching and the dodging all on her own by now. Now if you want to argue a clear cut manga statement, then we have no agreement.

Sakura is shown reading his movements, and Sasori acknowledges it:

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Now despite being hit, she was still fast enough to pull out the rope, all of it, and yank him back:

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Sasori isn't even that skilled with multiple puppets. How many of his got crapped on by ten puppets and Sakura? Let's see:

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Sakura easily dodged this many puppets:

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Not only that, she ran from all the way over to the right, and reached Chiyo BEFORE Sasori could blitz her:

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So Sakura way back when can do ALL this, but Tsunade cannot? Who is much much faster by comparison, has an Immortality Technique and far better reserves and stamina? I mean come on!

He wasn't taking them seriously? Are you sure?

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- As soon as he brought out Iron Sand, he went at them with an intent to kill. That was way early into the fight.

You people are under-rating Tsunade a lot.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Kazekage puppet iron forest and its a wrap

She can definitely force him out of hiruko puppet tho

Her having antidotes wont help her when shes speared into the ground

 

[TheEvilOne]

Kazekage puppet iron forest and its a wrap

Even early part2 Sakura shitted on it with no diff

 

[KCN]

She has no counter to the 100 puppets. Chiyo at least had her 10 kings fighting the majority with Sakura fighting some as well. 100 concentrated barrages on one person spells the end. Even if Tsunade hits him a few times, Sasori can switch heart compartments.

With Katsuyu and full knowledge, Tsunade shits.

 

[Draphsin]

Forget Sakura, Draphsin. I made an analogy for the attacks she DID dodge.

But how is that relevant if she needed help & couldn't even dodge sasori's fastest attack?

No. Puppeteer's reactions is not something out of the world. We saw Omoi dupe and cut the strings much faster than Sasori could react. He couldn't even reattach them in time and was dragged down because of it.

Never said they were, but this example isn't valid. Kabuto was controlling sasori's movements like he was with all of his edos [

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] Omoi didn't outspeed sasori there, he outsped kabuto's control over sasori.

Which brings me to the 'see through' point and the last part where she dodged many puppets on her own?

Sakura dodging the puppets is irrelevant, she couldn't dodge the satetsu, not without help anyways.

But why are you still stuck at Sakura? I made an analogy. This isn't Sakura versus Sasori.

Because the comparison you made was invalid. You said that tsunade could dodge the IS because sakura could, yet sakura needed help & still couldn't dodge the faster attack. I know this isn't a sakura thread, but then why mention her feats if you can't prove that tsunade could do better?

What makes you assume she won't? The fact that an old old, old woman could react in time,

Being old is irrelevant, look at hiruzen, his reactions were decent enough to keep up with oro for someone who's old. Fact is the manga stated that she had the ability to properly react to sasori's attacks due to being a puppet master & having an abundance of experience over him. Unless you can prove that tsunade's speed/reactions would fare better against sasori than chiyo's puppet mastery did then you can't say she would be able to constantly dodge everything that gets thrown at her.

Sakura herself jumped over many puppets that attacked her simultaneously ... it goes against Sasori if anything.

Again the puppets aren't sasori's full striking speed & I never mentioned the puppets, the satstsu is what tsunade isn't reacting to, & as long as sasori can levitate then he can't be touched by her either.

Sasori will eventually hit her, much more likely a possibility than tsunade miraculously having the speed in order to avoid everything & ultimately finding a way to reach sasori before she gets pelted.

 

[shelke]

^ That is one way to look at it. Itachi's reactions weren't affected - before KA. Nagato was moving just fine. So I don't see how Sasori has to be the odd one out.

Look at my post above. I have covered most of these points. If you still have some issues, then you can re-quote me.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

Is this Sakura versus Sasori? Which part of my post about 'Analogy' didn't get to you people? I am well aware what she dodged and what she didn't dodge. My point: IF Sakura can start to see through his attacks and dodge them at the end with finesse, what's stopping Tsunade? Unless you people believe she's as slow as this Sakura, then I am not agreeing with such an absurd statement.

Sakura began to see through those attacks quite early on:

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- Note the term "even without my assistance, she can do it". Which means Sakura could have done all the punching and the dodging all on her own by now. Now if you want to argue a clear cut manga statement, then we have no agreement.

Sakura is shown reading his movements, and Sasori acknowledges it:

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Now despite being hit, she was still fast enough to pull out the rope, all of it, and yank him back:

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Sasori isn't even that skilled with multiple puppets. How many of his got crapped on by ten puppets and Sakura? Let's see:

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Sakura easily dodged this many puppets:

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Not only that, she ran from all the way over to the right, and reached Chiyo BEFORE Sasori could blitz her:

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So Sakura way back when can do ALL this, but Tsunade cannot? Who is much much faster by comparison, has an Immortality Technique and far better reserves and stamina? I mean come on!

He wasn't taking them seriously? Are you sure?

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- As soon as he brought out Iron Sand, he went at them with an intent to kill. That was way early into the fight.

You people are under-rating Tsunade a lot.

Sasori wanted to turn them into Human Puppets Chiyo explained the situation, if he wants to turn you into a human puppet he needs to keep you alive not use a corpse.

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That scence Sasori claimed he needed to stop using such little chakra in the viz scan I don't have it but imma look for it.

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The stamina part Sasori is betters then Tsnuade for sure in the databook he has a 5 were Tsnuade has a 4 , Sasori doesn't have a real body he doesn't tire out or body hurt from pain or Exhaustion the man doesn't even eat.

The whole battle with Sasori vs Chiyo & Sakura made them look bad all over.

1. Sasori used a large amount of chakra sealing a bijuu into the gedo manzo statue 3 days straight.
2. He wasn't trying to his full extent because turning someone into a human puppet requires you to keep them alive not a corpse.
3. Sakura wasn't even given intel on Sasori & his poison when Sasori had no intel on her what so ever.
4. Sakura came prepared with antidote for his poison without his knowledge.
5. The Sadist part even with all those advantages in the end he choose to be killed by Chiyo when he could of just dodged & killed her.

Chiyo with a speed of 4 had to use Chakra shield twice because she couldn't dodge his attacks you gonna tell me Tsnuade with a speed of 3.5 is going to evade ever last attack ?

^ That is one way to look at it. Itachi's reactions weren't affected - before KA. Nagato was moving just fine. So I don't see how Sasori has to be the odd one out.

Look at my post above. I have covered most of these points. If you still have some issues, then you can re-quote me.

Because Sasori puppets speed range from which one he's using & limited resources

 

[Hagoromo Reanimation]

Even early part2 Sakura shitted on it with no diff

You drunk ? Without Chiyo an a Antidote Sakura would have been playing Puppets with pinocchio

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[TheEvilOne]

You drunk ? Without Chiyo an a Antidote Sakura would have been playing Puppets with pinocchio

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Chiyo wasn't even there when Sakura fodderized the Kazekage. Even Sasori was impressed, and canonically admitted that Sakura is a force to be reckoned with. Not Chiyo, but Sakura. .

Also keep in mind Tsunade also has antidotes, and she is better than early part2 Sakura and Chiyo combined. She is faster, smarter, stronger and has more impressive CqC feats. I probably shouldn't even mention her chakra reserves and immortality technique.