DRSM Madara VS Teen Sasuke

[Holy God]

Whatever pal, it's irrelevant to the end result anyway.


More plans? If only anything you were saying was backed by manga evidenec.


Nope. He can't absorb and use Ninjutsu at the same time. That's all Kurama said. Read the manga, correctly.


Not really, not when they both have Ninjutsu, and Sasuke has the overwhelming speed advantage.


When you can prove that Madara got blitzed for other reasons besides him not being faster, then I'll take this into account.


You mean the fodder 25 Wood clones? Lol, get raped by Susanoo. So does Mokuryu. There is no distraction here. Maybe NB needs to have a lesson on the term "distraction", because every clown tries to throw a technique out there, and say it's some kind of damn distraction. Lol

Yeah, that first fight was EMS MADARA vs Hashirama, this is a battle of a completely different scale. Let's not compare them.


Like I said, he had the Gudo Dama, you only get those if you are a JJ. Get some real counter evidence or gtfo.


Um? Same height=/=Same strength. Lol.



-Says that Madara didn't try to escape.

Madara escapes right after Sasuke blitzes him, but replacing himself with Limbo.

Lmao. This is pathetic.

-Blind Madara reacted to EMS Sasuke, not talking about EMS Sasuke.

-Rinnegan Sasuke blitzed him with his Rinne Shift. The only reaction Madara had was switching with Limbo, and even then it wasn't a reaction to the blitz, as he reacted after the fact, not before.

-Nor do I give a shit if he can react to Tobirama. All teleportation is instant, the difference is the people striking. Madara reacting to Tobirama doesn't mean he can react to Sasuke, not when Sasuke already blitzed him.

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Where is the reaction? Oh wait, it doesn't exist, only in the Madara fanboys heads. Lol



What's amusing is all the Madara fanboys constantly making shitty ass excuses for why their fav doesn't perform up to par. Disgusting.

More experience equates to having solutions to more problems. This is common sense.

He cannot use a path and another technique at the same time.

Overwhelming? Madara blitzed a Sage Mode Naruto and Sai. Only speed Sasuke has is his "FTG", which is countered.

When Sasuke "slashed" Madara with Chidori, he had time to compliment Sasuke in his mind. Not to mention he is a sensor type, therefore, he knew Sasuke was following him. Can't forget the smile on his face when he was thinking it, either. Madara did react to the sealing as well, he just had no where to go. Not to mention that Limbo would prevent anything fatal, as Madara could swap with one.

*sigh*Fodder wood clones, huh? Pretty sure Madara has enough chakra to create to Perfect Susano'o. Of course you're the type of guy that would scream for "manga faxs". Twenty five isn't even his limit. He only produced that many as to turn the ratio around. Make 40 clones, all able to use the Rinnegan, Susano'o, and wood-style, and it's over for Sasuke.

Lelelelelel. Obito had one and he wasn't a host. He only had some of their chakra. As long as you were a host before, you can attain the Truth-Seeking Spheres. He didn't even have a tailed beast to host as a spirit. Which means, he only had less than or equal to the amount he had before death.

Pretty sure EMS Madara's Susano'o is equal to DR Madara's in both power and height.

He had to escape a sealing, of course. I wasn't even talking about that one. Madara was shown reacting to it though. You talk as if having a Rinnegan gives you more striking speed. That definitely isn't the case. Sasuke's swings were already shown to be dodged. Sasuke only got Madara because there was no where to go in the flash. He was shown with exclamation marks, knowing about the attack. He didn't even have both eyes. With 5 Limbo around him, Sasuke's teleportation would mean nothing fatal.

 

[KidGamer65]

More experience equates to having solutions to more problems. This is common sense.

Then that'd mean that anyone who is older (Thus more experience) is a better problem solver than anyone who is younger, which is false.

He cannot use a path and another technique at the same time.

I'm still waiting for you to prove this.

Overwhelming? Madara blitzed a Sage Mode Naruto and Sai. Only speed Sasuke has is his "FTG", which is countered.

Oh wow, he blitzed SM Naruto. Big whoop. EMS Sasuke was already faster than SM Naruto on foot, and canonically has better reaction speed due to EMS prediction, let alone Rinnegan Sasuke. Not even a feat worth mentioning on this scale. Referencing lower level feats doesn't even begin to help you when arguing a higher leveled match up. Common sense.

When Sasuke "slashed" Madara with Chidori, he had time to compliment Sasuke in his mind. Not to mention he is a sensor type, therefore, he knew Sasuke was following him. Can't forget the smile on his face when he was thinking it, either. Madara did react to the sealing as well, he just had no where to go. Not to mention that Limbo would prevent anything fatal, as Madara could swap with one.

Not talking about that, so lol, irrelevant.

*sigh*Fodder wood clones, huh? Pretty sure Madara has enough chakra to create to Perfect Susano'o. Of course you're the type of guy that would scream for "manga faxs". Twenty five isn't even his limit. He only produced that many as to turn the ratio around. Make 40 clones, all able to use the Rinnegan, Susano'o, and wood-style, and it's over for Sasuke.

Yet, I'm seeing no proof for any of this being possible.

Lelelelelel. Obito had one and he wasn't a host. He only had some of their chakra. As long as you were a host before, you can attain the Truth-Seeking Spheres. He didn't even have a tailed beast to host as a spirit. Which means, he only had less than or equal to the amount he had before death.

Obito had a staff, scans of him having the complete set of Gudo Dama? Nope. Only Jins have the Complete Set. Try again.

Pretty sure EMS Madara's Susano'o is equal to DR Madara's in both power and height.

Height? Sure, why not?

Power? Don't know, DR Madara has never shown us his Perfect Susanoo. If you really want to believe that his PS is equal to EMS Madara's, then Sasuke's stomps his as Sasuke's>>>>EMS Madara's by feats.

He had to escape a sealing, of course. I wasn't even talking about that one. Madara was shown reacting to it though. You talk as if having a Rinnegan gives you more striking speed. That definitely isn't the case. Sasuke's swings were already shown to be dodged. Sasuke only got Madara because there was no where to go in the flash. He was shown with exclamation marks, knowing about the attack. He didn't even have both eyes. With 5 Limbo around him, Sasuke's teleportation would mean nothing fatal.

@bold: Uh, not in this manga. Sasuke teleported Madara, he didn't react until after he was hit. Manga fact buddy.

Yet he already blitzed JJ Madara. I'm going to have to ask you to stop referencing feats from a weaker version of Sasuke, when the stronger version already did what I said he could do.

Exclamation means surprise or realization, they appeared after he was hit, thus he only realized it, AFTER HE WAS HIT, thus he was blitzed as he failed to react before. JJ Madara>>>>>>DRSM Madara in speed, thus Madara gets blitzed and killed since he's not immortal.

Both eyes? Aren't you the guy who said Rinnegan has no effect on your speed? Well, that's one thing that you are finally right about. Sasuke got faster because of Rikudo's Yin Chakra, not because of Rinnegan. When you can prove that getting another Rinnegan increased Madara's speed, then we can talk.

Limbo is irrelevant if Madara can't react.

 

[MadaraReturns]

The quantity isn't the point, the point is when Obito took chakra from him, it wasn't Bijuu chakra. So that proves that his Susanoo isn't going to contain the Bijuu's chakra. Lmao.

Yin Seal? What are you one about now? Mind explaining how any of this is relevant to anything the quoted portion?



Nope. Don't know who told you that. Madara's Susanoo does not have better weapons. No one ever mentioned better weapons. Kakashi's Susanoo got another weapon, not necessarily a better weapon.

Uh, when you can provide feats, then sure, his Susanoo can use his MS techniques, until then, nope. IF you are claiming it can use the eye techniques of any other eye, I highly suggest you get evidence.




Obviously not.

Can he overpower Sasuke? No, so he isn't stronger. I already gave you an example. Unless you think Edo Hiruzen is stronger than Alive Hashirama or Alive Madara, I suggest you stop trying to debate that Madara is stronger because he's immortal, and I highly suggest you start trying to prove how Madara is stronger.


Kaguya is not Madara. Kaguya>>>>Madara. That's why I'm so surprised. Lmao, learn how to use common sense. You don't hand a stronger character's feats to a weaker character. This is what the manga showed us. Sasuke used Rinne Shift twice that match on him, and he got hit both times. Sasuke did it against Naruto and Kaguya, they blocked and evaded respectively, thus Naruto and Kaguya>Madara in speed and reactions. That simple.

And the common excuse all Madara fans use. "He was trying to get to Obito" yet that doesn't mean he'd let himself get hit, actually that means the opposite. If he's trying to get away why the hell would he take hits?




Nope. Rikudo's Chakra COMBINED with the Rinnegan is what makes Sasuke so strong. Rikudo's Chakra is why his Susanoo is so OP. Rikudo's Chakra is the only reason he gained Rinnegan.


Izuna's power+his own power. Gave him a new, better Sharingan and PS.


Irrelevant, this has nothing to do with gaining more eyes, which is your claim for Susanoo being stronger. Neither does Sasuke's case or EMS Madara's case.


So, how does this prove that more eyes=stronger Susanoo?



Yeah, he couldn't handle the power of both eyes, but both eyes is already taken into account for Madara, because that is the baseline for Susanoo's use.

Even if more eyes=better Susanoo, you have no proof that the 3rd eye even gives a boost anywhere near the 9 Bijuu.

seriously nothing good that you told here, you just can't admit i completely finished you here in my last post. not even gonna discuss about the bullshit you told here

 

[KidGamer65]

^ lol, either I can predict the future or the actions fanboys take when cornered are too damn predictable.

Lol, Like I tell the rest of the fanboys, go wank elsewhere.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

madara has what? a 100 years of experience and u give it to a 17 year old. U_U

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

Wait... Is DRSM Madara different from the Madara right before he got stabbed by Black Zetsu?

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

madara has what? a 100 years of experience and u give it to a 17 year old. U_U

Wtf is this statement? Tsunade has more years of experience compared to Sasuke, but who wins? Hashirama has way more years of experience compared to Naruto but who wins?

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Wtf is this statement? Tsunade has more years of experience compared to Sasuke, but who wins? Hashirama has way more years of experience compared to Naruto but who wins?

Location: Konoha
Starting Distance: 30 meters

Restrictions:
Both Perfect Susano'o are the same size/power and can fly.
Both can perform all six paths.
Former has access to Nagato's animal path summonings.
Former cannot summon Kurama.
Latter has sword.

OP basically makes them equal.

madara has the more experience in battle so he's logically have this win.

 

[AnonymousShinobi]

Location: Konoha
Starting Distance: 30 meters

Restrictions:
Both Perfect Susano'o are the same size/power and can fly.
Both can perform all six paths.
Former has access to Nagato's animal path summonings.
Former cannot summon Kurama.
Latter has sword.

OP basically makes them equal.

madara has the more experience in battle so he's logically have this win.

They aren't equal

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

They aren't equal

i know, thats why madara wins.