The Cycle of Hatred Will Just Start Again?

Eternal Mangekyo Sojobo

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You seem to think that what Maddie did was extremely noble and misjudged. Yet I have to say this: To make peace he brought about destruction. He killed countless, started a war and all of it for what? For a mere dream that he somehow thought would benefit everyone (I won't even comment on how "well" that turned out). He's just like any dictator there was out there, valuing his own sense of justice over the rest of the world.

He actually understood the world needs a loyal, and true Leader who will solve our problems. Can you be passive on thousands of deaths per day if you Had the power to change it? While corrupt local and regional leaders live peacefully, like In Konoha, while there are dozens of people like Nagato out here? You do not know war or deaths man. If you did, you would appreciate a fictional character knowing it too, and gave us readers a nice story about what does courage and greatness are. Madara stopped the cycle of hatred, the peace the ninja world is currently experiencing is the proof.
 

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His solution was an escape from reality. That is no real solution. It's the same as drowning your sorrows in drugs or alcohol. Or anything, for that matter. And you don't know anything about my life. Don't pretend to.

Reality is your own judgement to begin with. I talked, now please let me know what's your answer for the ninja's world peace/ or in parralel , our own world's peace, im waiting for a better proposition of yours.
 

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He actually understood the world needs a loyal, and true Leader who will solve our problems. Can you be passive on thousands of deaths per day if you Had the power to change it? While corrupt local and regional leaders live peacefully, like In Konoha, while there are dozens of people like Nagato out here? You do not know war or deaths man. If you did, you would appreciate a fictional character knowing it too, and gave us readers a nice story about what does courage and greatness are. Madara stopped the cycle of hatred, the peace the ninja world is currently experiencing is the proof.

I am not going to stand here pretending I'm some retired war veteran. But like many other people, I had people in my family die so I do understand a bit about the grief. Still, a man stands up and goes on, doesn't start a world war because he can't take it anymore. Maddie simply did what one should always avoid: taking the easy route. He had the power, he could change the actual world, instead of throwing it into a fake, dream world where none of your accomplishments are anything but mere fantasies.
 

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In 700, Bolt is shown to hate the Hokage position because he barely has a relationship with his father. So he was might not want to become Hokage in the future because of it. It's like Godfather III, when Mikael's son didn't want to become head of the Corleone Crime Family because of what it did to his family and how he saw his father.

Poor comparison, gobble gobble
 

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Reality is your own judgement to begin with. I talked, now please let me know what's your answer for the ninja's world peace/ or in parralel , our own world's peace, im waiting for a better proposition of yours.

There is only one real world. And it has already been revealed. Mutual understanding is the answer. Communication.
 

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There won't be another Asura and Indra bullshit until Naruto and Sasuke die
 

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There is only one real world. And it has already been revealed. Mutual understanding is the answer. Communication.



Do you think people did not ever tried to communicate? At this point, i'm now sure you do not know what you're talking about. I can say peace is the answer too, it still does not give me, or humanity, a way to achieve it. Anyway,

I am not going to stand here pretending I'm some retired war veteran. But like many other people, I had people in my family die so I do understand a bit about the grief. Still, a man stands up and goes on, doesn't start a world war because he can't take it anymore. Maddie simply did what one should always avoid: taking the easy route. He had the power, he could change the actual world, instead of throwing it into a fake, dream world where none of your accomplishments are anything but mere fantasies.


Do you also realize it was spiritual? There is spirituality in the Ninja world. A God, an energy linking everybody to him. Madara had his "prophecy", and wanted to cancel the cycle of hatred the humans began, by restoring the stolen energy of their God. He was indeed truly linked to that God by his blood. It was even religious and more than just a tomoed moon dream. He did not create the context, Everything was real. Can you put yourself in the context, and tell me you wouldnt do what does God wants you to do in real life , if it was true, like Madara or even real Prophets? As I said, understanding the context is key. Also Madara did not start a world war bcs he couldnt "take it anymore" lol. People opposed him because of his decision to acquire The power he needed to accomplish the plan. The whole world finally allying against him is just a representation on how misguided it is. If People were dying everyday since ages and it didnt bother much, I do not see why an increase of number should be that revolting then. It shows again the lack of conscience and humanity people incounsciously have.
 

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Do you think people did not ever tried to communicate? At this point, i'm now sure you do not know what you're talking about. I can say peace is the answer too, it still does not give me, or humanity, a way to achieve it. Anyway,




Do you also realize it was spiritual? There is spirituality in the Ninja world. A God, an energy linking everybody to him. Madara had his "prophecy", and wanted to cancel the cycle of hatred the humans began, by restoring the stolen energy of their God. He was indeed truly linked to that God by his blood. It was even religious and more than just a tomoed moon dream. He did not create the context, Everything was real. Can you put yourself in the context, and tell me you wouldnt do what does God wants in real life , if it was true, like Madara or even real Prophets? As I said, understanding the context is key. Also Madara did not start a world war bcs he couldnt "take it anymore" lol. People opposed him because of his decision to acquire The power he needed to accomplish the plan. The whole world finally allying against him is just a representation on how misguided it is. If People were dying everyday since ages and it didnt bother much, I do not see why an increase of number should be that revolting then. It shows again the lack of conscience and humanity people incounsciously have.

I didn't say peace was the answer.
 

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Do you think people did not ever tried to communicate? At this point, i'm now sure you do not know what you're talking about. I can say peace is the answer too, it still does not give me, or humanity, a way to achieve it. Anyway,




Do you also realize it was spiritual? There is spirituality in the Ninja world. A God, an energy linking everybody to him. Madara had his "prophecy", and wanted to cancel the cycle of hatred the humans began, by restoring the stolen energy of their God. He was indeed truly linked to that God by his blood. It was even religious and more than just a tomoed moon dream. He did not create the context, Everything was real. Can you put yourself in the context, and tell me you wouldnt do what does God wants you to do in real life , if it was true, like Madara or even real Prophets? As I said, understanding the context is key. Also Madara did not start a world war bcs he couldnt "take it anymore" lol. People opposed him because of his decision to acquire The power he needed to accomplish the plan. The whole world finally allying against him is just a representation on how misguided it is. If People were dying everyday since ages and it didnt bother much, I do not see why an increase of number should be that revolting then. It shows again the lack of conscience and humanity people incounsciously have.
You really are lost in your fanboyism. He was obviously unaware of Kaguya's takeover and the actual truth about IT. He was an obedient puppy being manipulated into carrying out his master's orders.
For once I'd like to reach out to a Maddie fan and tell him: Get your head out of your anus please. You are always trying to find poor excuses for Maddie's weak resolve. Realize at least once that your fave is not perfect, took wrong decisions and ended up the way he did because of his twisted sense of justice that led him to die as a dog, biting the dust.

Increase of numbers in what?
 
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You really are lost in your fanboyism. He was obviously unaware of Kaguya's takeover and the actual truth about IT. He was an obedient puppy being manipulated into carrying out his master's orders.
For once I'd like to reach out to a Maddie fan and tell him: Get your head out of your anus please. You are always trying to find poor excuses for Maddie's weak resolve. Realize at least once that your fave is not perfect, took wrong decisions and ended up the way he did because of his twisted sense of justice that led him to die as a dog, biting the dust.

Increase of numbers in what?

You are too young to understand real problems, and one's actions about it my son. Your response lacking any answer indeed or anything meaningfull to the debate, yet only negative, proves you should stick with jutsus and not give any opinion on Madara because you're too young to fully understand this manga yet.

Increase of deaths.
 

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You are too young to understand real problems, and one's actions about it my son. Your response lacking any answer indeed or anything meaningfull to the debate, yet only negative, proves you should stick with jutsus and not give any opinion on Madara because you're too young to fully understand this manga yet.

Increase of deaths.

My age does not hold any relevance to the current subject. But whatever.

And what you said is around the line: "Since so many people were dying every day without anyone caring all that much why would more deaths bother anyone?". Let me ask you, do you think that because many people were dying every day across the globe, the deaths of all those jews and other nationalities during WW II shouldn't have bothered us?

And the difference between me and you is that I can tell when my fave did mistakes, and trust me he did plenty. You're just defending Maddie because he's your favorite. Killing everyone and imposing your twisted ideal onto the world is an unjustifiable act that can not be passed down as a noble deed.

And one more thing, I watched anime way more complex than Naruto.
 
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