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Seeing as how Mihawk is stronger than Shanks based on portrayal, you oughta shut right up.
[Discussion] Mihawk vs kaido
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Yeah Right! I dont remember mihawk putting an end to the war of the bests at marine fold. Kaido is said to be the strongest creature on earth, a creature is any living being, and mihawk falls in that category and im sure you can plot the rest of the graph. Law said he could easily kill a donflamingo who in my opinion is close to or on hawk eyes level. Mihawk is overrated.
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1. Shanks=Swordsman
Mihawk=World's Strongest Swordsman
2. If Mihawk had a fleet with him like Shanks did facing the Marine force that had already been weakened by one Yonko crew with that crew still present and willing to fight, he could. Don't get it twisted, if Shanks was there by himself and the WB pirates had left, they'd have kept on fighting.
3. IDK why you're telling me Kaido wins because of his title, I said that in my very first post here. But it's not a cakewalk for Kaido either. If you want to use Kaido's title in your argument, then you have accepted the validity of titles. To then reject Mihawk's title as World's Strongest Swordsman, which puts him above Shanks, makes you a hypocrite.
Where did i explicitly state or clearly deny that fact of mihawk being stronger than shanks? I neither agreed to it or disagreed to it. It was donflamingo i used as an example. Oh weakened by one yonko crew? True. Although i vividly remember the three admirals and the fleet admiral being in good shape surely they themselves collectively would be enough to tackle shanks fleet but they chose not to, if roles were reversed i doubt it, so hawk eyes is stronger than a guy with only one arms going off what your implying? Wow such a huge achievement! Going off titles and hype alone which you seem so keen on talking on then kaido still is the stronger out of the pair. The fight wont be a walk in the park but dont make it seem as it would be very tough or life threatening for kaido at worst mid difficulty win. Hawk eyes cant even beat big mom lol or any other yonko lmao, dont start with kaido.
oh this shit again, look I just don't agree with that. He is the strongest in swordsmanship skills not strongest person who uses a sword in general, I just find that logic flawed.
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LOL hold up in your first post you said that we shouldn't compare schibukai and yonko but your comparing Mihawk and shanks. If Mihawk is shanks level than he's yonko level, he's a schibukai because he doesn't have a crew but that doesn't change the fact that he's in the Same tier as the yonko
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1. You said "We're comparing Yonkos to Warlords" now, clearly showing that you think the Yonko are inherently stronger than Warlords. And now you're just trying to save face, talking about "I never said yada yada yada"
2. Er no. The Whitebeard Pirates were focused on getting Ace back, not decimating the other side. What happened once Ace died? They became far more offensive, Whitebeard let himself go all out and he decimated Akainu. If the Whitebeard pirates were focused on the defeating the other side rather than saving Ace from the very beginning, they'd have done a lot more damage.
3. Going by titles, which you have done by the way, Mihawk is stronger than Shanks. While Kaido is stronger than them both on the same basis, this puts Mihawk on Yonko level, so the fight will be very difficult for Kaido. Do I need to refer you back to where you said "We're comparing Yonko to Shichibukai now?"
Stick to RP, your debating right now is a joke at best.
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My bad, I forgot Mihawk was called the World's Most Skilled Swordsman, not the world's strongest swordsman, sorry Oda
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Wtf does that have to do with anything? shanks is a swordsman and he clashed with kaido
lol playing on my words to make yourself look smart is beneath you ricky, you know what I meant......if it was a sword only battle mihawk is the best but when you factor in haki ability, df ability or pure strength or speed he doesn't beat everyone that uses a sword
IN FACT I would even say that labeling someone as a SWORDSMAN means they use specific sword techs like zoro and mihawk do, as far as we've seen shanks doesn't use specific sword style techs.....
by your logic kaido beats mihawk until he decides to pick up a sword mid-fight and then he instantly loses because even just using a sword gives you the title of swordsman so you automatically lose out to mihawk.
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Nooo, Kaido is the strongest as in he's the man with the strongest skills, not the strongest in general. Need a man to fix your plumbing? Kaido has the strongest skills for that. Need someone to clean your gutter? Kaido is your man. Math homework. Call Kaido ya dumb ****!
you have no argument for this statement:
"by your logic kaido beats mihawk until he decides to pick up a sword mid-fight and then he instantly loses because even just using a sword gives you the title of swordsman so you automatically lose out to mihawk."
so you lose. end of story.
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No, that's not my logic. A swordsman is anyone who consistently and regularly uses a sword. Every single time Shanks felt he faced a confrontation, he grabbed his sword. When Whitebeard and he clashed, the first thing Shanks did was take out his sword. To face the Marines at MF, he pulled out his sword. When he thought Ace was about to fight him, he grabbed his sword. When the Roger Pirates were under attack in the flashback, he was grabbing his sword. Shanks is a swordsman.
Kaido picking up a sword in the middle of a fight randomly does not make him a swordsman, so no, that is not my logic. Don't be an idiot. And I'm not flipping words on you, you said Mihawk's title refers to him having the best skills, not being the strongest. His title of World's Strongest Swordsman doesn't mean he's the strongest swordsman, but the most skilled swordsman, hence why his title isn't World's Most Skilled Swordsman instead.
furthermore being called the strongest man means all MALES period
being called strongest swordsman means all SWORDSMEN period but just because someone picks up a sword and uses it does not make them a swordsman
tell me something ricky dicky if I go out and change my oil does that make me a mechanic?
shanks has not shown any swordstyle specific techs like zoros and mihawks and nor has been called a swordsman (that I know of) so he just uses a sword he is not a swordsman, if he and mihawk had a fencing match only then mihawk would win but in an all out battle that may not be the case.
being called strongest swordsman means all SWORDSMEN period but just because someone picks up a sword and uses it does not make them a swordsman
tell me something ricky dicky if I go out and change my oil does that make me a mechanic?
shanks has not shown any swordstyle specific techs like zoros and mihawks and nor has been called a swordsman (that I know of) so he just uses a sword he is not a swordsman, if he and mihawk had a fencing match only then mihawk would win but in an all out battle that may not be the case.
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I did. Mihawk is stronger than any swordsman. Kaido doesn't become a swordsman just by picking up a sword in the middle of the fight, he becomes one by using a sword regularly and consistently. If Kaido picking up a sword in the middle of a fight makes him a swordsman, do you consider Luffy a swordsman for when he waved those two swords around when he fought Arlong? If your answer is yes, you're an idiot. If your answer is no, then your argument falls apart. Your choice.
I don't care if I'm double posting, that does not make him a swordsman the fact is his haki is so good that he only needs a sword even though he has no sword specific abilities to use with it, he might not even need his sword of course but maybe he just doesn't want to get his hands dirty....that's beside the point though
shanks is not a swordsman, for the 100000 time zoro and mihawk are swordsmen