Was Itachi the most plotnerfed character?

[xxSAGExx]

You act like Madara can touch Itachi despite Yata mirror.

Things Edo Madara can do: use Deva path (which is powerful enough to pull down meteors) to pull Yata mirror, make 25 wood clones to attack Itachi from all sides, have a clone pull down meteors on top of Itachi's Susanoo and if he has Yata mirror then it still won't stop Itachi from getting crushed underneath it, flower world which would still go around Yata mirror and surround Susanoo then release pollen that renders Itachi unconcious, plus Rinnegan gives him superior sight and makes him a sensory type (I can show you manga scan of Madara saying the alliance is trying to prevent him from sending them) and he can use any element but only used storm element when he could have used dust, lava, boiling (he fought Hashirama many times and can use wood jutsus perfectly and he couldn't use wood jutsus until after faking his death so his fight with Mei and Oonoki is a great chance to copy their hand signs.

 

[Cornballs227]

Pretty much. In all of his fights, he never gave his all. His face expression never changed. He never reached his full potential. Kishimoto gave him many, many handicaps and despite those handicaps, his superiority was apparent in each and every one of the panels. Blindness, illness, pacifism, Will of Fire... Those are all the reasons we never saw him reach his full potential. His character was built in a manner that he exhibits a large potential but never actually uses it.

I agree with what he says.

 

[Mellanoma]

Never went all out.. ofcourse he was nerfed by personality, plot, and character

 

[Romy9]

Thats the whole point of this thread. That he didn't do what he could do; because of plot restriction.

That's a troll. Common sense doesn't work.

 

[Chazzi]

That's a troll. Common sense doesn't work.

As expected of Obito fans.. Always butthurt when it comes to Itachi. Lol

 

[Chazzi]

Things Edo Madara can do: use Deva path (which is powerful enough to pull down meteors) to pull Yata mirror, make 25 wood clones to attack Itachi from all sides, have a clone pull down meteors on top of Itachi's Susanoo and if he has Yata mirror then it still won't stop Itachi from getting crushed underneath it, flower world which would still go around Yata mirror and surround Susanoo then release pollen that renders Itachi unconcious, plus Rinnegan gives him superior sight and makes him a sensory type (I can show you manga scan of Madara saying the alliance is trying to prevent him from sending them) and he can use any element but only used storm element when he could have used dust, lava, boiling (he fought Hashirama many times and can use wood jutsus perfectly and he couldn't use wood jutsus until after faking his death so his fight with Mei and Oonoki is a great chance to copy their hand signs.

Yata mirror doesn't have physical form, he can't pull it. How would Itachi get crushed underneath when the Yata mirror is protecting him?:|
Anyway this thread isn't to discuss Edo Madara vs Edo Itachi, take it to the VS section.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Yata mirror doesn't have physical form, he can't pull it. How would Itachi get crushed underneath when the Yata mirror is protecting him?:|
Anyway this thread isn't to discuss Edo Madara vs Edo Itachi, take it to the VS section.

If that was true then Susanoo, physical manifestation of chakra, couldn't hold it. Both Totsuka blade and Yata mirror are weapons that Itachi had to actually find to get. Also you think Yata mirror can't be used against Itachi? Sure it protects Itachi but what happens when a meteor falls on him? All of that weight would cause Yata mirror and the pressure to push down Susanoo which would break and all of that would crush Itachi. And you're the one saying Itachi could have taken down Edos when he cannot. Also you keep saying Edo Itachi who is weaker than alive Itachi and has less chakra, Edo's chakra do run out and it does take time to replenish as shown with Edo Minato not being able to fight after he was out of chakra. Dead bodies can't replenish more chakra so Madara saying they have infinite is them being able to replenish chakra.

 

[AlphaScythian]

As expected of Obito fans.. Always butthurt when it comes to Itachi. Lol

Ironically its itachi fans that are insecure and bash Obito every chance they get.

You certainly dont see me making threads bashing itachi or even wanking Obito much U_U

 

[AntonChigurh]

Itachi was pretty nerfed. So was naruto.

 

[Chazzi]

Ironically its itachi fans that are insecure and bash Obito every chance they get.

You certainly dont see me making threads bashing itachi or even wanking Obito much U_U

You might not make threads about him, but you sure bash him every chance you get. Lol

 

[Chazzi]

If that was true then Susanoo, physical manifestation of chakra, couldn't hold it. Both Totsuka blade and Yata mirror are weapons that Itachi had to actually find to get. Also you think Yata mirror can't be used against Itachi? Sure it protects Itachi but what happens when a meteor falls on him? All of that weight would cause Yata mirror and the pressure to push down Susanoo which would break and all of that would crush Itachi. And you're the one saying Itachi could have taken down Edos when he cannot. Also you keep saying Edo Itachi who is weaker than alive Itachi and has less chakra, Edo's chakra do run out and it does take time to replenish as shown with Edo Minato not being able to fight after he was out of chakra. Dead bodies can't replenish more chakra so Madara saying they have infinite is them being able to replenish chakra.

Nah Edo Itachi doesn't suffer from the drawbacks of MS usage so i can't see how he is possibly weaker than when he was alive + his sickness at that. And yes he could have taken out the other edos.

 

[Lightbringer]

both Juubi Jinchurikis, Kaguya, Hanzo, Shisui/Danzo with KA, and Minato were probably the most nerfed characters.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Nah Edo Itachi doesn't suffer from the drawbacks of MS usage so i can't see how he is possibly weaker than when he was alive + his sickness at that. And yes he could have taken out the other edos.

The MS weakness applied to alive Itachi. Edo Itachi's overall stats would be lower than Alive Itachi, that include chakra reserves, speed, reflexes, ect.... Edo Itachi not having his illness doesn't mean his stats would improve as a Edo, he's dead, so Itachi's stats would be lower than they were with the disease. So his chakra would run out faster as Edo Tensei and we saw it take awhile for Edo Minato to replenish high enough for him to fight again.

And no he can't take out the last 3 Edo's, Edo Madara neg him as he fought 5 Kage level ninja and called it child's play while Itachi is on the level of 1 Kage. Chiyo have knowledge for fighting Uchihas and Kimimaru was doesn't have his illness either but still have his CM to power himself up; I do believe Itachi can beat them but at high difficulty. All other Edo's were sealed at that point but those 3 or else Nagato, 3rd Raikage, Muu, and Obito's 6 Path Edo Jinchuurikis all have the strength/skills to beat Edo Itachi.

 

[Chazzi]

The MS weakness applied to alive Itachi. Edo Itachi's overall stats would be lower than Alive Itachi, that include chakra reserves, speed, reflexes, ect.... Edo Itachi not having his illness doesn't mean his stats would improve as a Edo, he's dead, so Itachi's stats would be lower than they were with the disease. So his chakra would run out faster as Edo Tensei and we saw it take awhile for Edo Minato to replenish high enough for him to fight again.

And no he can't take out the last 3 Edo's, Edo Madara neg him as he fought 5 Kage level ninja and called it child's play while Itachi is on the level of 1 Kage. Chiyo have knowledge for fighting Uchihas and Kimimaru was doesn't have his illness either but still have his CM to power himself up; I do believe Itachi can beat them but at high difficulty. All other Edo's were sealed at that point but those 3 or else Nagato, 3rd Raikage, Muu, and Obito's 6 Path Edo Jinchuurikis all have the strength/skills to beat Edo Itachi.

Yes he can, Itachi is higher than kage level. Chiyos knowledge doesn't help her the slightest she gets negged anyway, kimimaru also. Nagato is already sealed by totsuka. 3rd raikage and muu would get defeated. He wouldn't fight alone against Obito, it would be him Naruto, kakashi and gai. They would defeat him with ease before he can summon the juubi.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Yes he can, Itachi is higher than kage level. Chiyos knowledge doesn't help her the slightest she gets negged anyway, kimimaru also. Nagato is already sealed by totsuka. 3rd raikage and muu would get defeated. He wouldn't fight alone against Obito, it would be him Naruto, kakashi and gai. They would defeat him with ease before he can summon the juubi.

That's why I said all other Edo's were sealed then named the ones sealed who are skilled/strong enough to beat Edo Itachi. It would be Chiyo and Kimimaru together since we saw them fighting together and yes info that she has can help since info is power. Chiyo would fight using her puppets while Kimimaru can turn the battlefield into all bones and move through it, Itachi can see him in the bones since they're made from Kimimaru's chakra as well. It wouldn't be neg at all mid at best and can be high depending on how well they execute their plan, they can't win due to neither showing to have sealing jutsus but they can give it the fight of their lives.

It took Naruto, Bee and Itachi to take a controlled Edo Nagato down, you said Itachi can go take out Edo's that's not the case if he needs help from other ninjas is it? 3rd Raikage is too fast to be caught by any genjutsu and Itachi isn't fast enough to hit him so no I don't see Itachi beating 3rd Raikage. Edo Itachi would run out of chakra before hitting 3rd Raikage with anything to put him down and 3rd Raikage 1 finger Attack and speed most likely have him breaking through Susanoo from the back and cutting Itachi in halve. Muu is a sensor, can fly, can go invisible and can use wind, earth, fire, and dust release.

And how would they beat Obito with ease when KM Naruto, BM Bee, MS Kakashi, and 6-7th gate Gai couldn't do much? Obito wasn't even trying to kill a Naruto and Bee but seal them, he could have killed Kakashi when they fought 1 on 1 the first time but threw him in Kamui. Obito has Madara's fan that reflects attacks back at you plus the 6 paths Edo Jinchuurikis and Edo Madara later shows up as well. Obito can pull out souls, he was going to do it to Yamato until Kabuto said his truth serum and Obito's Sharingan should be enough so they can use Yamato to powerup Zetsu.

In your dreams, Alive Itachi who is stronger than Edo Itachi is Kage level, he can be beaten by Kage level ninjas such as Jiraiya, A, Oonoki, Gaara, Orochimaru, MS Kakashi, Gai, SM Naruto, MS Sasuke, Mei, Gaara's dad, 3rd Raikage, and Muu. Above Kage level ninjas are Minato (beat 2 strong Kage+ninjas alone), KM Naruto (split his power 1/13th and had 1 clone capable of fighting Kage level ninjas such as Edo Muu, Edo 3rd Raikage, and a little Edo Madara while Naruto fought Edo Itachi and Edo Nagato one at a time as he switched with Bee through the fight then used his KA to free Edo Itachi), and EMS Sasuke. Then the level after that is BM/BSM Naruto (fought evenly with EMS Sasuke with roughly half his power) and Nagato. Then after that level is Tobirama, Madara and Hashirama.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

My Lord
With all due respect i suggest you stop smoking weed. Itachi cannot defeat Nagato or 6 Pains unless he gets a Perfect Susanoo.

 

[Sweet Pudding]

Im sorry to burst your bubble but Itachi cant defeat Madara so even if he defeats all the Edo's,Madara would still destroy him with ease

 

[shelke]

All at once? No. Individually? Most probably.

"Could've pretty much taken out Akatsuki by himself"
"Could've killed Kabuto"
"Could've killed Obito"

Riiiight xD

DSM Kabuto and Kabuto working as Sasori's assistant are not one and the same thing. Why couldn't he have taken him out?

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Nope, Itachi > both.
Itachi wasn't trying to kill Kabuto which is why he wasn't already dead.

Validate it or /thread.

No basis. It still blinds Itachi and Kabuto doesn't need his eyes, possesses senjutsu that senses disturbance in the air and rapidly heals.

 

[KingHashirama]

I won't digress, but the mere fact that you have to pair them against him proves the point.

WEren't you talking about pairs. .