Naruto's only "nerf" was chakra exhaustion.

[Crossroads]

This is a thread for those who believe Naruto was "incredibly" nerfed during his second VotE fight with Sasuke. Let's dig into it, shall we?

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But Hans! Where were the Biju during the fight? Why didn't we see the nine Biju Rasenshuriken that Naruto used against Kaguya?!

Simple. Every time Naruto used one of the Biju's chakra, he's had to communicate with one of the Biju and ask for it's chakra to be lent out to him. For Naruto to use the Biju's chakra, he has to be lent the power. EX:

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In the last panel, they're all agreeing and saying yes in compliance to Naruto asking for their chakra. It's a joint effort. Now, how exactly is Naruto supposed to communicate with the Biju if they're under Sasuke's genjutsu? Hmm?Important questions!

But Hans! The portions of the Biju that were in Naruto's body are able to communicate with him!

Wrong. The Biju aren't split up into portions like Yin-Yang Kurama and they all only have one psych (aside from Yin-Yang Kurama) How do I know they only have one psych? Because the manga hasn't suggested that they do, and there's little to no evidence supporting this alleged claim.

But Hans! Naruto wasn't trying to kill Sasuke! Sasuke had the intention to kill!

Uh, so what? If I walk in on my little brother being molested by some creep? Do you think I'll kill the guy? No, because then I'll go to jail for murder and serve years inside a prison. However, you can bet your ass I'll break his legs so he won't ever walk again. So what's up with this weird analogy? Just because Naruto didn't have the intention to kill Sasuke, doesn't mean he didn't do all he could to take him down. Naruto has always been the type to go all out and do his very best. Hell, it's his ninja way. He realized that unless he gave it his everything, he wasn't going to bring down Sasuke. And since he didn't have access to the Biju's chakra, this was his strongest attack:

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AND NOT THIS (he didn't have access to their chakra...):

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But Hans! What about Naruto's alleged chakra exhaustion?

You guys would actually be right about this one. Can't deny hardcore manga facts, and manga facts say Naruto was nearly drained dry. However, running on Kurama juice is what's got Naruto through this war in the first place. Truth be told, he was really drained here:

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And this was over 100 chapters ago. So, how has Naruto been able to combat these demi-Gods and do so much for the Shinobi Alliance? That's pretty easy. Chakra is like a life force, and if you receive some, you're right as rain. Proof? This is all the proof you need:

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Conclusion: Naruto's only nerf was his chakra exhaustion. He was in the war far longer than Sasuke, and he was probably tired as all hell. But, you can't deny that receiving chakra is like a good night's rest and a cup o' coffee combined.

*No I'm not some Sasuke fanboy that denies Sasuke's loss. I don't really care, he lost.
*If you honestly think Naruto should've won that fight with anything other than extreme difficulty (which it was) you're a God damn fanboy.
*Keep the trolling to a minimum. (I said minimum, I like a little trolling

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*If you ask me a question or try to make an argument that's already been countered in the OP, I'm just gonna ignore you.
Ty and Madara got neg-diffed by Black Zetsu rules.​

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

Naruto Soloed Juubito and Kaguya, stay mad now.

I can't believe Kishi did this to sauce, saucez failed all his attempts against kaguya, got teleported away like a noob and everyone had to waste energy to bring him bad for him to do nothing LOL

Edit: LOL last time I checked black zetsu was about to rape Saucez too if it wasn't for naruto's strong will

 

[Crossroads]

Naruto Soloed Juubito and Kaguya, stay mad now.

I can't believe Kishi did this to sauce, saucez failed all his attempts against kaguya, got teleported away like a noob and everyone had to waste energy to bring him bad for him to do nothing LOL

So Kakashi, Sasuke, Obito, and Sakura were just there doing.. nothing?

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[Umari Senju]

you really should just let all that go. Manga's over and what happened happened. Just saying U_U

 

[Crossroads]

you really should just let all that go. Manga's over and what happened happened. Just saying U_U

I can tell you didn't read. I'm not denying anything here and this isn't about who won or lost, it's simply saying that Naruto tried and he wasn't particularly "nerfed".

These people are just trying to downplay Sasuke.​

 

[ForbiddenUzumaki]

So Kakashi, Sasuke, Obito, and Sakura were just there doing.. nothing?

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My bad huge props to kakashi, also tanx saucez for using ur seal it was the minimum

 

[Umari Senju]

I can tell you didn't read. I'm not denying anything here and this isn't about who won or lost, it's simply saying that Naruto tried and he wasn't particularly "nerfed".

These people are just trying to downplay Sasuke.​

no I read all of it. but your post sounds just a tad like you are bitter about people saying Naruto was nerfed. Does it really matter whether he was or not? It's not going to change the outcome of the fight.

All you're doing is riling up Naruto and Sasuke Fans who will turn this into a flame war pretty soon.

 

[Stark]

Naruto Soloed Juubito and Kaguya, stay mad now.

I can't believe Kishi did this to sauce, saucez failed all his attempts against kaguya, got teleported away like a noob and everyone had to waste energy to bring him bad for him to do nothing LOL

Edit: LOL last time I checked black zetsu was about to rape Saucez too if it wasn't for naruto's strong will

>name is Uzumaki
>wants to be taken seriously
>hates a fictional character so makes shit up to make himself feel better

Idiocy over 9000

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OT: 10/10 thread Sauce solos

#NLS
#SS
#SQUAD

 

[Crossroads]

My bad huge props to kakashi, also tanx saucez for using ur seal it was the minimum

Sasuke contributed nicely in the fight. He acted as a decoy on more than one occasion which opened up some nice opportunities. He also broke Naruto and Sasuke out of the ice. He played his role, it just wasn't his fight to shine in. Even Sakura/Obito did their part.​

 

[lanakui8]

you forgot that he only had 3 of his 9 gudoudamas as well.

But anyways, both were equally nerfed.

 

[Kαmi]

Yessssss. Completely agree, Naruto's "nerf" was due to Sasuke's abilities. Taking out the Bijuu prior to the fight was to balance the fight a little more. Naruto and Bijuus together is what allows him access to their power, it's a mutual process. Plus, Naruto doesn't just take power, he asks for it, it's how he is. He's not gonna use the Bijuus power anymore without their consent and I don't think a lot of people understand that.

And I never thought chakra exhaustion was a good excuse. Naruto has been exhausted multiple times and so has Sasuke. They always fight under these kind of conditions so why should we start holding it against them now?

I honestly think the attack Naruto fired at Sasuke was stronger than any of his other attacks, even > 9 Bijuu RS. Natural Energy acts as a multiplier and Naruto and Kurama gathered more of it than ever before, so much that Kurama thought Naruto might not be able to handle it. With that much energy, it should multiply his power beyond anything else we've seen him do before IMO. But that's another topic.

 

[V h o]

I just wanted to see LRS or the other bijuu RS so I still rage nerf'd.

lol at that strike

 

[Gold Lightning]

What?!

If Naruto didn't have killing intent, then that means he didn't do everything he could to take him down. If he had 100% killing intent, then Naruto would've gone all put from the beginning instead of holding back.

Coming from the guy who would only break a guys legs for molesting his little brother XD wow you're some borer. If I saw that, I wouldn't be thinking about jail and crap, I'll do everything I can to help my brother and make that guy suffer. You on the other hand would wait and think about your actions looool.

 

[southern sun]

He was restricted as hell.

No chakra arms for offense.
He didn't use other tailed beast chakra

 

[Crossroads]

Yessssss. Completely agree, Naruto's "nerf" was due to Sasuke's abilities. Taking out the Bijuu prior to the fight was to balance the fight a little more. Naruto and Bijuus together is what allows him access to their power, it's a mutual process. Plus, Naruto doesn't just take power, he asks for it, it's how he is. He's not gonna use the Bijuus power anymore without their consent and I don't think a lot of people understand that.

And I never thought chakra exhaustion was a good excuse. Naruto has been exhausted multiple times and so has Sasuke. They always fight under these kind of conditions so why should we start holding it against them now?

I honestly think the attack Naruto fired at Sasuke was stronger than any of his other attacks, even > 9 Bijuu RS. Natural Energy acts as a multiplier and Naruto and Kurama gathered more of it than ever before, so much that Kurama thought Naruto might not be able to handle it. With that much energy, it should multiply his power beyond anything else we've seen him do before IMO. But that's another topic.

I agree man. Glad to know some people don't need this elaborated for them.​

What?!

If Naruto didn't have killing intent, then that means he didn't do everything he could to take him down. If he had 100% killing intent, then Naruto would've gone all put from the beginning instead of holding back.

Coming from the guy who would only break a guys legs for molesting his little brother XD wow you're some borer. If I saw that, I wouldn't be thinking about jail and crap, I'll do everything I can to help my brother and make that guy suffer. You on the other hand would wait and think about your actions looool.

You're completely wrong and you obviously didn't read all of the thread. You don't have to want to kill someone to give it your 100%. If Naruto held back, he would be dead right now.

And the difference between me and you is I'm not some ape-******* sniffing mongrel that loses his head in a bleak situation. I wouldn't have to think about it, my instincts prevent me and every other intelligent person on the planet from doing incredibly over-the-top stupid things.

And yes, murdering someone out of hatred is an incredibly over-the-top stupid thing.

Moron.​

He was restricted as hell.

No chakra arms for offense.
He didn't use other tailed beast chakra

You didn't even read the thread.

Illiterate monkey.​

 

[Umari Senju]

He was restricted as hell.

No chakra arms for offense.
He wasn't used other tailed beast chakra

him not sure why he didn't use the arms offensively but it may be the same reason Sasuke really didn't use enton/amateratsu much. Perhaps he just figured it would be usless against Sasuke other than a diversion, or maybe he just had too much going on.

I chalk up not being able to use the other bijuu powers due to Sasuke sealing them up and placing them under his genjutsu. Since it's just the bijuu and no jinchuriki no one to snap them out of it either.

Just my guess anyway.

I agree man. Glad to know some people don't need this elaborated for them.​

You're completely wrong and you obviously didn't read all of the thread. You don't have to want to kill someone to give it your 100%. If Naruto held back, he would be dead right now.

And the difference between me and you is I'm not some ape-******* sniffing mongrel that loses his head in a bleak situation. I wouldn't have to think about it, my instincts prevent me and every other intelligent person on the planet from doing incredibly over-the-top stupid things.

Moron.​

You didn't even read the thread.

Illiterate monkey.​

You and the others should probably refrain from name calling. Versuio was just in this thread which means it's being monitored. if this continues he will probably close your thread.

 

[Davy Jones]

I wouldnt say that. i mean he was fighting for like a 2 days straight. but i did enjoy this. you made good points and had lots of proof to back your points. though i may slightly disagree i love the thread

 

[Stark]

He was restricted as hell.

No chakra arms for offense.
He didn't use other tailed beast chakra

Say what?

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[Davy Jones]

Say what?

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i think the poster was refering to the fight with sasuke not kaguya

 

[southern sun]

Say what?

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It was against Sasuke?