[VS] Kisame vs Gokage (GAUNLET)

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He loses to Onoki.

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Kisame still shits on Ei... He blocked v2 Bee's Larait and took heavy damage... Ei Larait was out-matched by a weaker Bee's... Kisame easily reacts to Ei seeing as 3tomoe Sasuke reacted to him... Water dome plus Samehada absorbings means GG...

V2 bee would be the equivalent of v2 Ay when it comes to Lariats.
Seeing as how healing is restricted in this he isn't getting up after 2.
 

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V2 bee would be the equivalent of v2 Ay when it comes to Lariats.
Seeing as how healing is restricted in this he isn't getting up after 2.

I think w/o healing means he is not healed after fights, but still has his healing ability?
 
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Stops at Ei due to no healing. I think he could beat Ei full health if Ei starts off in V1. He'd probably lose to Ohnoki full health in the end, high diff.
 

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V2 bee would be the equivalent of v2 Ay when it comes to Lariats.
Seeing as how healing is restricted in this he isn't getting up after 2.
Inb4 water dome comes up... Ei isn't winning people are acting like healing was a major factor in Kisame arsenal when it wasn't... Nor is he blitzing as i've already explained...
 

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Inb4 water dome comes up... Ei isn't winning people are acting like healing was a major factor in Kisame arsenal when it wasn't... Nor is he blitzing as i've already explained...

If v2 bee could blow his chest open then v2 Ay is blowing his chest open.
The only way he was able to continue fighting bee was by healing. No healing? He passes the fck out like sasuke did after the second one.


@paws. If its no healing in between fights then he shouldn't even make it to ay.
 

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If v2 bee could blow his chest open then v2 Ay is blowing his chest open.
The only way he was able to continue fighting bee was by healing. No healing? He passes the fck out like sasuke did after the second one.


@paws. If its no healing in between fights then he shouldn't even make it to ay.

I still dont think it matters, his healing ability takes chakra from others and is a regeneration of sorts.
 

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He clears. Don't see why people are making such a big deal out of not being permitted to heal. Have people forgotten Kisame's chakra amounts and durability? Kisame wins them all, and Ay is not even close to beating him when he can't blitz Kisame who is within his Suiton.

If v2 bee could blow his chest open then v2 Ay is blowing his chest open.
The only way he was able to continue fighting bee was by healing. No healing? He passes the fck out like sasuke did after the second one.


@paws. If its no healing in between fights then he shouldn't even make it to ay.

Base Bee had more strength than v2 Ay in the Lariat contest during KCM Naruto vs Ay. v1 Ay's power exceeds Ay's tremendously, and v2 Bee further exceeds v1's strength immensely. I don't see how you deduced Ay being capable of inflicting such damage to Kisame, who survived Hirudora.
 

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He clears. Don't see why people are making such a big deal out of not being permitted to heal. Have people forgotten Kisame's chakra amounts and durability? Kisame wins them all, and Ay is not even close to beating him when he can't blitz Kisame who is within his Suiton.



Base Bee had more strength than v2 Ay in the Lariat contest during KCM Naruto vs Ay. v1 Ay's power exceeds Ay's tremendously, and v2 Bee further exceeds v1's strength immensely. I don't see how you deduced Ay being capable of inflicting such damage to Kisame, who survived Hirudora.

If Kisame has no healing at all like with his ability or in between fights then he most definitely does not clear.
 

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If Kisame has no healing at all like with his ability or in between fights then he most definitely does not clear.

He still absorbs chakra, and no one is bringing him to the point where healing will be necessary like against v2 Bee, so he most definitely does clear given how hard it is to actually force him to sustain damage in the first place.
 

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He can beat the female Kages but that's it.
 

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He still absorbs chakra, and no one is bringing him to the point where healing will be necessary like against v2 Bee, so he most definitely does clear given how hard it is to actually force him to sustain damage in the first place.

Samehada was burned when it absorbed a katon, lava will be much more painful and harder to absorb. Acidic mist will be very hard to absorb and will immediately start burning his skin . Both will injure Kisame right from the start of the battle.

Chakra blades and a pencil with raiton have cut his skin.
 

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I still dont think it matters, his healing ability takes chakra from others and is a regeneration of sorts.

How u mean it dosent matter? He isn't making it past garra or tsunade without a few broKen bones
 

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How u mean it dosent matter? He isn't making it past garra or tsunade without a few broKen bones

Because he is restored throughout the battle. His healing doesnt use his chakra and his body gets fixed.

If he gets no healing AT ALL then obviously he wont clear.
 

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Because he is restored throughout the battle. His healing doesnt use his chakra and his body gets fixed.

If he gets no healing AT ALL then obviously he wont clear.

Wouldn't that depend on how his opponents die?
It's not like Mei tsunade or garra have chakra cloaks ripe for the sucking. And seeing as how the only times he's fully healed himself is via yanking a cloak of chakra or draining a jin through continous direct contact(bee hugging samehada (like a dumbass))

I don't see him recovering all his wounds.
 

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Samehada was burned when it absorbed a katon, lava will be much more painful and harder to absorb. Acidic mist will be very hard to absorb and will immediately start burning his skin . Both will injure Kisame right from the start of the battle.

Chakra blades and a pencil with raiton have cut his skin.

Whomever said he needs Samehada to absorb Katon, Yoton or any other thing that stems from the Katon nature, when he is the most powerful Suiton user in the manga? All of Mei's Lava turns to rock when Kisame pours Suiton onto it, that's all there is to it. She gets demolished. Acid Mist is hard to absorb? Why would he need to absorb it in a open location? It just leaks out wasting her chakra. Kisame ends her with utmost ease via sharks in the sea water.

Where's the relevance in cutting attacks hurting him and Ay's lariat hurting him? Or are you suggesting his Lariat carries penetrative force? His Lateral chop gets absorbed, so that's not even a factor, not to mention Kisame simply kills him by drowning him.
 

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If he has no healing, Kisame probably loses to v2 Ay. With healing though, he literally beats Ay the same way he beat Killer bee. At full power, I believe he beats all the gokage except for Onoki.

-Onoki dominates Kisame in CQC, as with but one touch, he can increase his weight massively and immobilize him and Samaheda..(this jutsu was used on Madara's susanoo) I feel that this technique is sometimes slept on.
-He can also fly out of range on any suitons, and after immobilizing him, nuke him with Jinton.
-Rock clones can be used as a distraction as well.

These are my thoughts.

Stops at Tsunade.

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If he has no healing, Kisame probably loses to v2 Ay. With healing though, he literally beats Ay the same way he beat Killer bee. At full power, I believe he beats all the gokage except for Onoki.

-Onoki dominates Kisame in CQC, as with but one touch, he can increase his weight massively and immobilize him and Samaheda..(this jutsu was used on Madara's susanoo) I feel that this technique is sometimes slept on.
-He can also fly out of range on any suitons, and after immobilizing him, nuke him with Jinton.
-Rock clones can be used as a distraction as well.

These are my thoughts.



Lol.

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I don't understand yet again, how does Kisame lose to Ay? How does Onoki win? Do people not realise this is ocean location, meaning 1000 sharks end nearly anyone, including Onoki whose Jinton can't cover such an AOE.
 
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