kakashi is the weakest kage ever

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Yeah...

All he could do without Sharingan,
- Running
- Lame Chidori
- Lame missions

Also, in his case Konoha's standard's were so low that they made such a weakling a Jonin...

P.S.
Sharingan gave him,
- Physical strength
- Taijutsu
- Ninjutsu
- Genjutsu
- Skills
- Speed
- Intelligence
- Experience
- etc...
i have to Agree with this it's sad but true
 

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I'm pretty sure in the movie kakashi will show what he has got even without the sharingan.
 

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Without Obito's blessed solo eyes, kakashi isn't kage level. High jounin max.
 

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I can prove you wrong. ... but I do this to often.
 

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since he doesn't has Obito OP sharingan anymore

which means no Kamui , no Susano

it's sad because kakashi was famous amoung all villiages only because he has Obito's Eye ..

And every Uchiha ever is nothing without the Sharingan.

Get over it, Sharinganless Kakashi would stomp any Sharinganless Uchiha.

MAYBE Madara stands a chance.

-MAYBE.-

But the others are barely jonin level without their DNA power.
 

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Sharinganless Itachi still shits on sharinganless Kakashi. And so does Madara, Sasuke and Obito as well.
 

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Sharinganless Itachi still shits on sharinganless Kakashi. And so does Madara, Sasuke and Obito as well.

tell me how itachi without the sharingan win against sharinganless kakashi ? thats a joke.
Madara and current sasuke are stronger than current kakashi even without the sharingan due to being indras reincarnations.
Obito with just normal eyes also won't be able to take down current kakashi
 

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Oh this again? Base Kakashi is so underrated U_U


First of all, in part1 Itachi rated Kakashi to be on a similar level as Kisame. I don't have the viz scan(if anyone has it, it would be fine), but here is the translated script that you can find in the viz translation section and this is what he says to Kisame



Like you can see, according to Itachi, part1 Kakashi was a threat to Kisame. He left Kisame fight the likes of Asuma or Kurenai without warnings, but when Kakashi came, he did warn him to avoid injuries

And we talk about a Kakashi who was out of shape in part1. So by denying Kakashi's power-level, you're basically denying Kisame's as well

This is further confirmed when Tsunade despite knowing Kakashi actually fought Itachi(the murderer of entire Uchiha clan), plus another S-Rank shinobi was surprised he actually lost [ ]

Besides, in shippuden at some point Tsunade herself even admitted Kakashi was better for the post(with Jiraya approving)

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Even the elders and suna supported him for the post

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Kamui was not well-known at that point and even til now, not everyone know that jutsu, so it kinda shows that base Kakashi is actually a Hokage level candidate

Only reason Tsunade was even Hokage is because age is a great critera in the Hokage post. We've seen the council member hesitating to give him the post simply because he was too young

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Plus, Kakashi himself said he was never interested to begin with

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Besides, he even ended up being the actual Hokage infront of Tsunade after the war without Sharingan

In latest chapters of this manga we've even the difference in intelligence, reaction speed and usage of ninja tools between Kakashi and Sakura(who is considered to be Tsunade's level by some) in a short amount of time saving her, himself and Obito

Quick thinking

- The dude was just teleported to a new location, yet he was already capable to distinguish reality and illusion



Quick to act

- Not only he distinguish reality with illusion in nanoseconds, but he was also quick to act in such a tight situation

1- Summon a scroll
2- Ties it to one kunai to use it as a rope
3- Pin it to the rock above, saving himself and Sakura
4- Use another kunai to pin Obito on another rock saving his life




In part1, he was already the number1 technician of Konoha and that's when Hiruzen was still alive

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So in terms of ninjutsu, he was put above a Hokage level like Hiruzen

Some say he weakened a lot due to losing his Sharingan, but it's only partially correct. Let's look it concretly

What does he really lose by not having his Sharingan anymore? He already have more than thousand techniques in his arsenal. It's part of his arsenal and will never go away Sharingan or not

The only thing relevant that he loses is the Sharingan precognition, but with his great usage of clones decepting even other geniuses, he can easily make up for it

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All his ninjutsu, taijutsu, intelligence, skills remain intact. Not to mention that without Sharingan draining his chakra, he would actually have more stamina to spam techniques and last longer in fights.

Considering with Sharingan he was capable to refine his chakra to the point of fighting 2 days long in wars, it will be particularly interesting to watch.

Yeah, this. Just saying, 3T Kakashi could fend off Hidan and Kakuzu, fight multiple Sharingan and Rinnegan enhanced V2 jinchuriki at the same level of Gated Gai (not 7th or 8th Gate) better than KCM Naruto and Bee could, outperform Obito and so on. He has speed, reactions, taijutsu, ninjutsu, smartness, chakra control/handseals on top notch level, and very good feats in strength, toughness and chakra stamina. Without Sharingan and Mangekyo Sharingan he wouldn't be so haxxed to the point to easily one shot people with Kamui or Sharingan + Raikiri/Raiden (not even going in DMS Kakashi + Rikudo chakra, that could be seen as nearly the strongest character in the manga, for crying out loud) but he can fight most of S-ranked people, in a different way, obviously, relying more on his intellect and versatility to trick and outperform them.

Just as he is now without Sharingan he is still stronger than a lot of Akatsuki members, S-ranked shinobi or kage, and if he trains to get used at not having the Sharingan/Mangekyo anymore, he can only become stronger. In the Naruto movie is also said that "The man who used to be renowned as "Kakashi of the Sharingan". He may have lost this great power now, but he was trusted to protect and lead the village anyway.". So he is still ****ing strong without Sharingan, yeah.
 
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