kakashi is the weakest kage ever

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since he doesn't has Obito OP sharingan anymore

which means no Kamui , no Susano

it's sad because kakashi was famous amoung all villiages only because he has Obito's Eye ..
 

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Dat indirect confrontation tho.

I agree.
 

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You're a genin.

That speaks for itself
 

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As annoying as this might sound, I agree with you and hope that he returns in the Last Movie(maybe within Kakashi's consciousness) provides him with some power again or something. :dunno:
 

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Hold up, i just realised this said 'Kage ever'. I have mixed opinions about this.
 

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yeah , because kakashi lost all of this power , all he has now as a kage is rikari

To be honest, if he has nothing new in the movie id agree. As of now, all i can say is that he can expand upon his 1000 jutsu's effectiveness.

Edit: Mei. He just might be able to beat Mei.
 
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As annoying as this might sound, I agree with you and hope that he returns in the Last Movie(maybe within Kakashi's consciousness) provides him with some power again or something. :dunno:

i don't hate kakashi , but people overrate him alot , i mean look at gai

he destroyed Juubi madara while Juubi madara took sharingan from kakashi like nothing

and yet you see people saying kakashi is stronger than gai with or without sharingan !
 

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To be honest, if he has nothing new in the movie id agree. As of now, all i can say is that he can expand upon his 1000 jutsu's effectiveness.

i would like to see his 1000 jutsu but i think it's only hype from kishi and you know him

kakashi learned 1000 jutsu because of the sharingan though
 

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no wonder he resigned so quickly!
 

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Oh this again? Base Kakashi is so underrated U_U


First of all, in part1 Itachi rated Kakashi to be on a similar level as Kisame. I don't have the viz scan(if anyone has it, it would be fine), but here is the translated script that you can find in the viz translation section and this is what he says to Kisame

Viz said:
Itachi: If you spar with him head-on, you won't get away scot-free... And if you take too much time, you'll give other shinobi a chance to arrive.

Kisame: But...

Itachi: Do not forget our purpose... You did not come here to suffer injuries!

Like you can see, according to Itachi, part1 Kakashi was a threat to Kisame. He left Kisame fight the likes of Asuma or Kurenai without warnings, but when Kakashi came, he did warn him to avoid injuries

And we talk about a Kakashi who was out of shape in part1. So by denying Kakashi's power-level, you're basically denying Kisame's as well

This is further confirmed when Tsunade despite knowing Kakashi actually fought Itachi(the murderer of entire Uchiha clan), plus another S-Rank shinobi was surprised he actually lost [ ]

Besides, in shippuden at some point Tsunade herself even admitted Kakashi was better for the post(with Jiraya approving)

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Even the elders and suna supported him for the post

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Kamui was not well-known at that point and even til now, not everyone know that jutsu, so it kinda shows that base Kakashi is actually a Hokage level candidate

Only reason Tsunade was even Hokage is because age is a great critera in the Hokage post. We've seen the council member hesitating to give him the post simply because he was too young

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Plus, Kakashi himself said he was never interested to begin with

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Besides, he even ended up being the actual Hokage infront of Tsunade after the war without Sharingan

In latest chapters of this manga we've even the difference in intelligence, reaction speed and usage of ninja tools between Kakashi and Sakura(who is considered to be Tsunade's level by some) in a short amount of time saving her, himself and Obito

Quick thinking

- The dude was just teleported to a new location, yet he was already capable to distinguish reality and illusion



Quick to act

- Not only he distinguish reality with illusion in nanoseconds, but he was also quick to act in such a tight situation

1- Summon a scroll
2- Ties it to one kunai to use it as a rope
3- Pin it to the rock above, saving himself and Sakura
4- Use another kunai to pin Obito on another rock saving his life




In part1, he was already the number1 technician of Konoha and that's when Hiruzen was still alive

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So in terms of ninjutsu, he was put above a Hokage level like Hiruzen

Some say he weakened a lot due to losing his Sharingan, but it's only partially correct. Let's look it concretly

What does he really lose by not having his Sharingan anymore? He already have more than thousand techniques in his arsenal. It's part of his arsenal and will never go away Sharingan or not

The only thing relevant that he loses is the Sharingan precognition, but with his great usage of clones decepting even other geniuses, he can easily make up for it

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All his ninjutsu, taijutsu, intelligence, skills remain intact. Not to mention that without Sharingan draining his chakra, he would actually have more stamina to spam techniques and last longer in fights.

Considering with Sharingan he was capable to refine his chakra to the point of fighting 2 days long in wars, it will be particularly interesting to watch.
 

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you mean hokage ?
it doesn't matter i don't agree, he is stronger than hiruzen and tsunade.
 

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Oh this again? Base Kakashi is so underrated U_U


First of all, in part1 Itachi rated Kakashi to be on a similar level as Kisame. I don't have the viz scan(if anyone has it, it would be fine), but here is the translated script that you can find in the viz translation section and this is what he says to Kisame



Like you can see, according to Itachi, part1 Kakashi was a threat to Kisame. He left Kisame fight the likes of Asuma or Kurenai without warnings, but when Kakashi came, he did warn him to avoid injuries

And we talk about a Kakashi who was out of shape in part1. So by denying Kakashi's power-level, you're basically denying Kisame's as well

This is further confirmed when Tsunade despite knowing Kakashi actually fought Itachi(the murderer of entire Uchiha clan), plus another S-Rank shinobi was surprised he actually lost [ ]

Besides, in shippuden at some point Tsunade herself even admitted Kakashi was better for the post(with Jiraya approving)

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Even the elders and suna supported him for the post

You must be registered for see images


Kamui was not well-known at that point and even til now, not everyone know that jutsu, so it kinda shows that base Kakashi is actually a Hokage level candidate

Only reason Tsunade was even Hokage is because age is a great critera in the Hokage post. We've seen the council member hesitating to give him the post simply because he was too young

You must be registered for see images


Plus, Kakashi himself said he was never interested to begin with

You must be registered for see images


Besides, he even ended up being the actual Hokage infront of Tsunade after the war without Sharingan

In latest chapters of this manga we've even the difference in intelligence, reaction speed and usage of ninja tools between Kakashi and Sakura(who is considered to be Tsunade's level by some) in a short amount of time saving her, himself and Obito

Quick thinking

- The dude was just teleported to a new location, yet he was already capable to distinguish reality and illusion



Quick to act

- Not only he distinguish reality with illusion in nanoseconds, but he was also quick to act in such a tight situation

1- Summon a scroll
2- Ties it to one kunai to use it as a rope
3- Pin it to the rock above, saving himself and Sakura
4- Use another kunai to pin Obito on another rock saving his life




In part1, he was already the number1 technician of Konoha and that's when Hiruzen was still alive

You must be registered for see images


So in terms of ninjutsu, he was put above a Hokage level like Hiruzen

Some say he weakened a lot due to losing his Sharingan, but it's only partially correct. Let's look it concretly

What does he really lose by not having his Sharingan anymore? He already have more than thousand techniques in his arsenal. It's part of his arsenal and will never go away Sharingan or not

The only thing relevant that he loses is the Sharingan precognition, but with his great usage of clones decepting even other geniuses, he can easily make up for it

You must be registered for see images


All his ninjutsu, taijutsu, intelligence, skills remain intact. Not to mention that without Sharingan draining his chakra, he would actually have more stamina to spam techniques and last longer in fights.

Considering with Sharingan he was capable to refine his chakra to the point of fighting 2 days long in wars, it will be particularly interesting to watch.

what you posted most of it is true ( except the Fact is kakashi is one the same level with kisame )

but my point Kakashi is the weakest kage because he doesn't has all this power anymore through the sharingan

it's kinda sad because all his power from the data book as based on his jutsus and performance with Obito eye

not saying he is not talented but yet he was famous for the sharingan
 

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Yeah...

All he could do without Sharingan,
- Running
- Lame Chidori
- Lame missions

Also, in his case Konoha's standard's were so low that they made such a weakling a Jonin...

P.S.
Sharingan gave him,
- Physical strength
- Taijutsu
- Ninjutsu
- Genjutsu
- Skills
- Speed
- Intelligence
- Experience
- etc...
 
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