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Sorry I am currently gathering all the information from the anime regarding this sittuation

When someone says "whether or not a war happens, the Uchiha are still traitors" now means "I don't care if a war happens"? You're an idiot.

Actually it does. When someone kills to stop a war, they will say "to prevent a war". When someone kills to stop others from getting power, which would mean they will have no chance of getting power in the future.. they will say "whether or not a war happens".

^^^^^^ Don't call me an idiot, if you don't know how this stuff works.
 
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Sorry I am currently gathering all the information from the anime regarding this sittuation



Actually it does. When someone kills to stop a war, they will say "to prevent a war". When someone kills to stop others from getting power, which would mean they will have no chance of getting power in the future.. they will say "whether or not a war happens".

^^^^^^ Don't call me an idiot, if you don't know how this stuff works.
Only you think the anime is canon. No one else cares.

I'm sure you're an expert on that kind of stuff.
Still, what you say doesn't matter. Danzō loved the village and the ninja world as shown in his death scene no matter how much you want to deny it.
 

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Only you think the anime is canon. No one else cares.

I'm sure you're an expert on that kind of stuff.
Still, what you say doesn't matter. Danzō loved the village and the ninja world as shown in his death scene no matter how much you want to deny it.
Seems like you and some other manga fapboys, are still holding onto "canon" .. why? because it protects your favs from looking like idiots?

"Danzo loved the village".... at the end yes.

End =/= what he did in his life
 

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We do know. BZ orchestrated it all and played the uchihas like a fiddle.
 

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Because like the dogs they are they tried to bite the hands that feed them.

Konoha had to put down old yeller.
 

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How Madara took control over Yagura in hid old decrepit state
i just got databook 4 confirmation that it was obito... and yagura was a perfect jin.
dat obito.

also apparently dan died from using his ghost possesion too much. lol.
 

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Seems like you and some other manga fapboys, are still holding onto "canon" .. why? because it protects your favs from looking like idiots?

"Danzo loved the village".... at the end yes.

End =/= what he did in his life

lol not quite. The anime makes my fav 3 look even better actually, despite like 1 thing that doesn't follow Danzō's character.
Kabuto has more Edo Tensei shinobi in the anime. Sound 4, for example. Also, when he realizes he's in Izanami and he's trying to fight it and is freaking the fūck out. Using Mugen Ōnsa on himself to break Izanami and shouting. Adds to his crazy and awesome character.

Orochimaru got an awesome part in the anime when he was behind the Hachibi attacking Kumo. Killing Fukai and releasing the 8 Tails all so he could gain a sample of the 8 Tails? Cool as hell and furthers the fact that he's a sociopathic monster. And then Kabuto using that sample years later to turn Edo Fukai into a pseudo-Jinchuriki, I loved it.

And who could ever forget Danzō prison raping Shisui. I rewinded that 3 times.

But it's not from Kishi, from the manga, and it doesn't fly here. If we accept the anime as canon we must also accept ninja chefs, 17th century European pirates hiding out in Pirate's Cove, we must accept that Shadow Clones can rebel and turn against their caster. Etc. etc.
And that is fûcking stupid. If you have a problem with everyone rejecting the idea of a canon anime except you, there's nothing you can do except complain. Sorry.


Danzō's mindset shown through in his final moments. "A ninja is not judged by how he lives, but how he dies." Jiraiya said that. Itachi said something similar as well. But you've never made an attempt to understand Danzō's character and instead cling to "good guys vs bad guys".
 
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lol not quite. The anime makes my fav 3 look even better actually, despite like 1 thing that doesn't follow Danzō's character.
Kabuto has more Edo Tensei shinobi in the anime. Sound 4, for example. Also, when he realizes he's in Izanami and he's trying to fight it and is freaking the fūck out. Using Mugen Ōnsa on himself to break Izanami and shouting. Adds to his crazy and awesome character.

Orochimaru got an awesome part in the anime when he was behind the Hachibi attacking Kumo. Killing Fukai and releasing the 8 Tails all so he could gain a sample of the 8 Tails? Cool as hell and furthers the fact that he's a sociopathic monster. And then Kabuto using that sample years later to turn Edo Fukai into a pseudo-Jinchuriki, I loved it.

And who could ever forget Danzō prison raping Shisui. I rewinded that 3 times.

But it's not from Kishi, from the manga, and it doesn't fly here. If we accept the anime as canon we must also accept ninja chefs, 17th century European pirates hiding out in Pirate's Cove, we must accept that Shadow Clones can rebel and turn against their caster. Etc. etc.
And that is fûcking stupid. If you have a problem with everyone rejecting the idea of a canon anime except you, there's nothing you can do except complain. Sorry.


Danzō's mindset shown through in his final moments. "A ninja is not judged by how he lives, but how he dies." Jiraiya said that. Itachi said something similar as well. But you've never made an attempt to understand Danzō's character and instead cling to "good guys vs bad guys".
@Bold, then stop complaining when people wanna talk about the anime..

Again I don't like people, who don't understand a simple common sense fact, that ANIME is kishimoto's property.. Kishimoto makes money off of the anime. He is the one who ALLOWED people to add to his storyline. Why? BECAUSE HE AIN'T NO GOD. Go read the damn license agreement.. its licensed to kishimoto.

The mere fact people like yourself have ruined Dbz with your "manga is canon" crap, because your arguments get shat on by the anime, is just sickening.

@2nd bold, see the funny thing is.. you were the one b*tching and moaning about anime not being canon.. while i said i don't give a f*ck if its not canon... This NARUTO discussion.... not Naruto manga discussion. Understand the difference. Don't b*tch and moan and complain first and then tell others they are doing it. Just makes you look like an idiot.

@3rd bold, clearly you have 0 idea how stories regarding villains work in Naruto. Obito/Madara/Nagato/Danzo/Itachi, all have had "redemption" points at the end of their life. Meaning that is when they realized the "truth" or the "right way". That is their redemption..... for someone who claims to be a Danzo fan.. you sure fail in understanding his characters. Just because Madara realized his way was wrong, doesn't mean everything he did was "good"..... its the same for the idiot known as Danzo.

Last, so how is having shadow clones rebel in a comedic way "f*cking stupid"? Makes sense to me.. if you read the manga. Shadow clones have the ability to act on their own, in fact all clones do. And also, how is the pirate thing anything new? o_O, there can't be pirates? "ninja chefs".. yea because not like they have people coming back from the dead.. or people turning into ghosts.. or people attaining power based on their calories.


PS: Itachi also said other people's power isn't your own =].
 
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@Bold, then stop complaining when people wanna talk about the anime..

Again I don't like people, who don't understand a simple common sense fact, that ANIME is kishimoto's property.. Kishimoto makes money off of the anime. He is the one who ALLOWED people to add to his storyline. Why? BECAUSE HE AIN'T NO GOD. Go read the damn license agreement.. its licensed to kishimoto.

The mere fact people like yourself have ruined Dbz with your "manga is canon" crap, because your arguments get shat on by the anime, is just sickening.

@2nd bold, see the funny thing is.. you were the one b*tching and moaning about anime not being canon.. while i said i don't give a f*ck if its not canon... This NARUTO discussion.... not Naruto manga discussion. Understand the difference. Don't b*tch and moan and complain first and then tell others they are doing it. Just makes you look like an idiot.

@3rd bold, clearly you have 0 idea how stories regarding villains work in Naruto. Obito/Madara/Nagato/Danzo/Itachi, all have had "redemption" points at the end of their life. Meaning that is when they realized the "truth" or the "right way". That is their redemption..... for someone who claims to be a Danzo fan.. you sure fail in understanding his characters. Just because Madara realized his way was wrong, doesn't mean everything he did was "good"..... its the same for the idiot known as Danzo.

Last, so how is having shadow clones rebel in a comedic way "f*cking stupid"? Makes sense to me.. if you read the manga. Shadow clones have the ability to act on their own, in fact all clones do. And also, how is the pirate thing anything new? o_O, there can't be pirates? "ninja chefs".. yea because not like they have people coming back from the dead.. or people turning into ghosts.. or people attaining power based on their calories.


PS: Itachi also said other people's power isn't your own =].

So most of your post is just crying about majority opinion. I really couldn't care less about your opinion on how people like me ruined DBZ and that it's sickening. I know we're on a Naruto forum, but get a f*cking life, my friend.

Back to Danzō, I don't consider him a villain. He is an antagonist, but he's no villain. A subjective term in any case.
Cue the whole "OH SO MADARA blah blah DANZŌ IS MADARA blah blah AND MADARA IS A VILLAIN blah blah"
Two different characters. Both were extremists who wanted peace, that's about where their similarities end. I don't consider Madara a true villain either. Just a psychotic, sado-masochistic, much more boring version of Danzō. But you've probably never had a thought like that because you only think in black and white.

PS: That's good. And he's right. It literally isn't your own power. Too bad that doesn't stop anyone from taking other people's' powers and using them for themselves :]
 

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I thought it was because they were being oppressed since the 2nd's reign.
 

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i just got databook 4 confirmation that it was obito... and yagura was a perfect jin.
dat obito.

also apparently dan died from using his ghost possesion too much. lol.

But then how does that explain the existence of the Bloody Mist when Obito was young? It was stated that the Bloody Mist regime started during Yagura's reign and it was suspected that someone was controlling him to do so.

Obito was too young to control Yagura and Madara commented on how he took control of the Mist Shinobi.

My assumption was that they both controlled Yagura in succession of each other.

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This is your answer, and it's pretty simple. I guess you completely skipped this page in the manga.
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But then how does that explain the existence of the Bloody Mist when Obito was young? It was stated that the Bloody Mist regime started during Yagura's reign and it was suspected that someone was controlling him to do so.

Obito was too young to control Yagura and Madara commented on how he took control of the Mist Shinobi.

My assumption was that they both controlled Yagura in succession of each other.

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I just came to the conclusion that Kishi made a mistake. I like to believe the 3rd Mizukage brought forth the Bloody Mist.
 

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I just came to the conclusion that Kishi made a mistake. I like to believe the 3rd Mizukage brought forth the Bloody Mist.

Yeah that would make a lot more sense. 3rd Mizukage also looks pretty evil lol
 

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Yeah that would make a lot more sense. 3rd Mizukage also looks pretty evil lol

The 4th data book lists every Kage and even names them, but there's nothing on the 3rd Mizukage :l
Fun facts: the 4th Kazekage is named Rasa
The 3rd Raikage is also named A
The 2nd Mizukage is named Gengetsu Hozuki
 
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