Sasuke's Rinnegan Genjutsu has no defense except Rinnegan (what's Naruto's answer?)

[Apêx1]

here rinegan madara can use susano

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And here BLIND Madara used Susano.

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Your point?????????????

 

[TrollingSage]

Once again, this is all irrelevant to me. Prove tha Sasuke can absorb chakra without disturbing the chakra or stop arguing this as a whole. It's rather clear that inputting or outputting chakra will release you from genjutsu, ie Kai and partner method. Until you bring proof, your point doesn't stand, as it should automatically disrupt the chakra no matter what, rather than your fallacious claim that it's a part of the genjutsu, which is completely unsupported.

I don't have to. As I have already explained, the victims chakra is already being disturbed, for the genjusu to be broken, there has to be a disturbance to counter the gen jutsu's disturbance. That disturbance has to come from someone who didnt cast the genjutsu to work. Also, the burden of proof is on. You're the one proposing an unproven theory. You haven't sufficiently proved that the tailed beasts were still under gen jutsu. We only saw Sasuke undoing C/T, not his gen jutsu
Also,, you should have read my edit, Sakura broke free on her own or Kakashi freed her. That effectively ends this pathetic thread
Good day sir.

 

[Milojko]

No, that's not how it works. Rinnegan isn't Rinnegan, that's wht Sasuke has tomoes and Madara doesn't. That's why Sasuke uses Amateratsu through his Rinnegan and Madara reverts to EMS when utilising the full extent of his EMS. Until you show proof, that conjecture doesn't stand.

I showed the proof

 

[Milojko]

And here BLIND Madara used Susano.

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Your point?????????????

man are you stupid ? please say yeas and stop this . You wanna proof that rinnegan madara use ems abilitis I give you proof and you ask me "point ? "
I showed you he can use ems ability he dont need to switch in ems to use them.

 

[Apêx1]

man are you stupid ? please say yeas and stop this . You wanna proof that rinnegan madara use ems abilitis I give you proof and you ask me "point ? "
I showed you he can use ems ability he dont need to switch in ems to use them.

But I am proving that Susano isn't a direct MS ability you fùcking retard. Thus saying he uses it with Rinnegan doesn't mean he can use his MS abilities with Rinnegan, unless you are claiming that Madara can use his Rinnegan abilities too while he's blind you dimwit.

 

[Milojko]

But I am proving that Susano isn't a direct MS ability you fùcking retard. Thus saying he uses it with Rinnegan doesn't mean he can use his MS abilities with Rinnegan, unless you are claiming that Madara can use his Rinnegan abilities too while he's blind you dimwit.

You wanna proof of ms/ems abilitis I showed them to you now gtfo with your stupid logic. of ms/ems abilitis madara showed only susano I can't show you something that he dont have . So go fuuuuck yourself in your stupid brain . That is his only showed ms ability.

 

[RNITBmsage]

You know nothing about the manga don't you?

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This is manga proof gen jutsu disturbs the user's chakra. Karin was trying to figure out if Danzo was using gen jutsu after seeing izanagi. What did she look out for? A disorder in Sasuke's chakra flow. So if gen jutsu already disturbs the user's chakra flow, then to break it, an opposing disturbance must be applied either by the victim or a third party. Sasuke disturbing the bijuus chakra himself wouldnt break his own genjutsu, it would just be a part of it
Oh and Sakura woke up from the genjutsu on her own

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There, I just shat on your entire thread. Now get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich you *****

solo'd this thread twice lol

 

[shadowcb]

Wow. It's amazing how people are still trying to make Naruto out to be the same as Killer Bee. Naruto is very different now. His chakra control skills are on a completely different level. There is no proof that Naruto needs a tails beast to defeat genjutsu now. He possess all the tails beast chakra, is able to use and control all their chakra without their help, can communicate with all the tail beast, and possess six path sage mode. The first thing he did after meet the Sage was kick Madara's TSB. Naruto is something nobody has ever seen before.

Like I said earlier the manga stated all of the tail beast chakra was needed to cancel the IT. Killer Bee who still had some of the 8 tails chakra couldn't counter the IT. That tells us there is something special and unique about possessing all of the tails beast chakra.

 

[Apêx1]

I don't have to. As I have already explained, the victims chakra is already being disturbed, for the genjusu to be broken, there has to be a disturbance to counter the gen jutsu's disturbance. That disturbance has to come from someone who didnt cast the genjutsu to work. Also, the burden of proof is on. You're the one proposing an unproven theory. You haven't sufficiently proved that the tailed beasts were still under gen jutsu. We only saw Sasuke undoing C/T, not his gen jutsu
Also,, you should have read my edit, Sakura broke free on her own or Kakashi freed her. That effectively ends this pathetic thread
Good day sir.

Once again, prove the bold or stop perpetuating this fallacy. Underline is laughable. I have every odd on my side, you have 0 odds on your side. Until you can prove that Sasuke can extract/absorb chakra without disrupting an opponents chakra, the burden proof is on you. My theory isn't even a theory, your theory is baseless conjecture which holds no grounds, as shown in bolded. Tailed beats can break out of it had they not been in genjutsu, seeing how a much weaker Kurama broke out of a much larger CT. Thus he was in it due to genjutsu, and isn't even debatable. And wot? Since when did anyone say Rinnegan genjutsu is eternal? At this point we can assume half a day is its limit, nothing more nothing less. Seeing how Kakashi didn't break her out despite many, many hours having passed, renders my point even more proven if anything. Not to mention that this is only by your standard. By any rational standard, you'd realise that Sasuke's genjutsu only lasted 5 seconds in the first place, since not every genjutsu have to last 10 hours. Smh.

 

[RNITBmsage]

I don't have to. As I have already explained, the victims chakra is already being disturbed, for the genjusu to be broken, there has to be a disturbance to counter the gen jutsu's disturbance. That disturbance has to come from someone who didnt cast the genjutsu to work. Also, the burden of proof is on. You're the one proposing an unproven theory. You haven't sufficiently proved that the tailed beasts were still under gen jutsu. We only saw Sasuke undoing C/T, not his gen jutsu
Also,, you should have read my edit, Sakura broke free on her own or Kakashi freed her. That effectively ends this pathetic thread
Good day sir.

He solo'd the thread three times :leaf:

 

[Apêx1]

You wanna proof of ms/ems abilitis I showed them to you now gtfo with your stupid logic. of ms/ems abilitis madara showed only susano I can't show you something that he dont have . So go fuuuuck yourself in your stupid brain . That is his only showed ms ability.

Yes, which is why you can't assume he can use EMS abilities with his Rinnegan, and thus have no reason to, as I already established. He wouldn't ever have to revert to his EMS had his Rinnegan been everything an EMS was but improved, but he did, thus the EMS has its own benefits. The insults are cute though.

 

[frozen5]

yup.. the OP is a special kinda stupid... kakashi/sakura already shat on your theory mate gg.

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Naruto can easily break out of that fodder genjutsu.
Also he can fight with his eyes closed to avoid it. U_U

 

[Sharingan King]

Once again, prove the bold or stop perpetuating this fallacy. Underline is laughable. I have every odd on my side, you have 0 odds on your side. Until you can prove that Sasuke can extract/absorb chakra without disrupting an opponents chakra, the burden proof is on you. My theory isn't even a theory, your theory is baseless conjecture which holds no grounds, as shown in bolded. Tailed beats can break out of it had they not been in genjutsu, seeing how a much weaker Kurama broke out of a much larger CT. Thus he was in it due to genjutsu, and isn't even debatable. And wot? Since when did anyone say Rinnegan genjutsu is eternal? At this point we can assume half a day is its limit, nothing more nothing less. Seeing how Kakashi didn't break her out despite many, many hours having passed, renders my point even more proven if anything. Not to mention that this is only by your standard. By any rational standard, you'd realise that Sasuke's genjutsu only lasted 5 seconds in the first place, since not every genjutsu have to last 10 hours. Smh.

The genjutsu Sasuke used on the bijuu was different from the one he used on Sakura. He used a paralysis type genjutsu on the bijuu. The one he used on Sakura was similar to tsukuyome without the time/manipulation component.

Therefore, we shouldn't compare Sakura's case to the bijuus.

 

[solo king]

Chakra disruption should still work.

Hey, it's been a while. How are you?

OT. You have some really good points

 

[frozen5]

The genjutsu Sasuke used on the bijuu was different from the one he used on Sakura. He used a paralysis type genjutsu on the bijuu. The one he used on Sakura was similar to tsukuyome without the time/manipulation component.

Therefore, we shouldn't compare Sakura's case to the bijuus.

first off sasuke's genjutsu lasted 5 seconds on the bijuu too.. so stop grasping at straws

 

[uzumakinaruto389]

Try reading the thread for once people. -.-

 

[frozen5]

Try reading the thread for once people. -.-

the thread makes no sense.. so why bother?

 

[Sharingan King]

first off sasuke's genjutsu lasted 5 seconds on the bijuu too.. so stop grasping at straws

Ad how did you determine how long Sasuke's genjutsu lasted on the bijuu?

They were under genjutsu for the entire fight. Sasuke later released them after the fight.

 

[frozen5]

Ad how did you determine how long Sasuke's genjutsu lasted on the bijuu?

They were under genjutsu for the entire fight. Sasuke later released them after the fight.

how did you determine the genjutsu he used on the bijuus and sakura were different?

and kurama was talking to naruto in 3 seconds not 5.. the chibaku tense was restricting him