Grown Naruto Vs. Grown Sasuke [Read lil' ninjas]

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Yo, what's good. So.. we all pretty much know that VOTE Sasuke = VOTE Naruto, because they were both left on the ground arm-less. Narutards will tell you Naruto is stronger because Sasuke admitted losing in ideology, and Sasuke fapboys will tell you Sasuke was nerfed the entire fight and it should've been an easy fight. Yada yada yada, I'm not here to argue VOTE semantics. I'll just go with "they're equal".

On to the point of the thread, I do firmly believe that adult Naruto and adult Sasuke are even more powerful than they were in their VOTE states. Think about it:

Naruto's possible arsenal:
- 100% full Kurama
- Sage Mode mastery. Naruto/Kurama were able to gather all the nature between VOTE and the God Tree's location while Naruto was in combat. That shit cray.
- Toad Summons of just about every variety.
- FTG (maybe?)
-Clone varients. Remember, Naruto could probably solo whoever the hell he wants to aside from Sasuke with one clone.
- Rasengan varients.
- Healing. Nuff' said.
- Rikudo enhanced chakras.
- KCM, BM, BSM, RM (Rikudo Mode), and BA (Biju Avatar).


I'd say, there's probably nothing really new about this version of Naruto. We can just assume that everything is amplified x2 because of the other half of Kurama being added to the mix, and then there's always the possibility that he has FTG. Then again, his speed was on par with FTG anyway..

Sasuke's possible arsenal:
- EMS, Rinnegan
- 6 Paths. After having the Rinnegan for less than a day, Sasuke was able to utilize it's abilities and use Chibaku Tensei and later use Preta Path to soak up Kurama's chakra. 10-15 years later, and we can safely assume Sasuke has mastered the 6 Paths at the very least. The Rinnegan ultimately has unlimited potential, but without further evidence, this is all we can safely state.
- Perfect Susano'o.
- Enton varients, Amaterasu.
- Kenjutsu game so damn real.
- Chidori varients.
- Rikudo enhanced chakras.

This isn't their entire arsenal, but it touches base on the main factors. Food for thought:

* Sasuke can possibly use Preta Path, Animal Path, Human Path, etc. while his Perfect Susano'o was activated. Sasuke mastered Chidori and was able to use it while Perfect Susano'o is activated, why can't Sasuke do the same after years of practice with the Rinnegan? It's really not a stretch, knowing that Sasuke did so much after only have it for a few days. Imagine Sasuke using Deva Path on a target, pulling it into a PS Chidori. Hax as fuck. Remember, Sasuke left the village before he was able to receive a prosthetic Hashirama DNA arm, and we can assume he got one when he came back after the huge time skip. And yes, I understand that Sasuke doesn't have an arm in the Last, but who cares. The end of the manga takes place years after the Last. Nevertheless, Kabuto already pumped tons of Hashi's DNA into Sasuke's body and Hashirama himself gave Sasuke a little of his power.

* Naruto has twice the reserves as he did during his fight with Sasuke. Crazy, right? Sasuke had all the Biju's and Naruto stalemated him with massive amounts of natural energy and 50% Kurama's power. Naruto now has 100% Kurama, and his Sage mastery can only improve. It's not so much that Naruto has more power than before, but I believe his reserves will be completely unmatched and completely unparralled to anything we've seen in the manga. Kurama is a steady and powerful chakra source that can even gather natural chakras while Naruto is fighting with Kurama's reserves. Technically speaking, it'd be damn near impossible for Naruto to truly be drained dry. On top of having the body of the sage, Naruto has Hashirama's cells flowing through his body.


Conclusion: Logically speaking, these two individuals should be so damn hax that they should be impossible to kill. In a completely un-nerfed fight, you'd just have the two cancelling out each others techniques left and right. I guess what I'm asking for, is for someone to convince one is (possibly) stronger than the other?

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I would pretty much say equal.

But i agree with the bottom part, these two are way too HAX.

A mere clone would solo a kage level with no difficult.
 

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Plot will help sasuke win this time since he does have one arm par to naruto.
 

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Asura Path + we don't know if Tsunade patches him up in the end. His arm isn't revealed in the last chapter.​

She doesn't because he leaves, sasuke is still "pure"

He hasn't come back to the village.
 

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You think he's been gone for 10-15 years? Then how did he have a kid with Sakura if he never came back?​

He came back, but left again bro :| like he said he doesn't accept anyone else but team 7.
 

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w/o excess Nature Energy and the other Bijuu. VoTE Naruto=VoTE Sasuke.

Naruto w/ the energy>>VoTE Sasuke w/o the Bijuu.

That gap should remain the same after the timeskips, when we only take PS, Nature Energy, and Kurama Mode into account. If Rinnegan doesn't let Sasuke bridge the gap between him and Naruto like the Bijuu did, he's weaker. Based on Rinnegan's performance throughout this manga, I think its safe to say that it can't do that.

So I'd say EoS Naruto>EoS Sasuke.
 

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w/o excess Nature Energy and the other Bijuu. VoTE Naruto=VoTE Sasuke.

Naruto w/ the energy>>VoTE Sasuke w/o the Bijuu.

That gap should remain the same after the timeskips, when we only take PS, Nature Energy, and Kurama Mode into account. If Rinnegan doesn't let Sasuke bridge the gap between him and Naruto like the Bijuu did, he's weaker. Based on Rinnegan's performance throughout this manga, I think its safe to say that it can't do that.

So I'd say EoS Naruto>EoS Sasuke.

Hmm, interesting. How do you think Sasuke would fair against Naruto if he has abilities like Madara's limbo? I mean, we don't exactly understand the full extent of Sasuke's Rinnegan.. it's definitely not like normal one's.​
 

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For some reason I am interested in seeing how Adult Sasuke and Adult Naruto fight.
 

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Hmm, interesting. How do you think Sasuke would fair against Naruto if he has abilities like Madara's limbo? I mean, we don't exactly understand the full extent of Sasuke's Rinnegan.. it's definitely not like normal one's.​

He'd still lose, especially since Limbo is nothing compared to Susanoo. Naruto's clones were stalemating Limbo with Taijutsu and small Rasengan.

The only way his eye has shown to be different is that he can't turn it off, and he can use all of his Sharingan's abilities (Which are also amplified) without having to switch to EMS. Whatever the full extent of his eye is, I doubt its something that surpasses his Susanoo.
 

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If I remember, a databook entry said that Naruto's Six Paths Sage Mode gives him the highest level of knowledge of chakra itself. It sounds like a hyperbole, but Kishimoto made that ability unique to him. That would potentially mean he has the ability to utilize a variant of Ninjutsu using SPSM.

I'll find the translations.

I think Sasuke could also unlock different abilities asides the convetional Six Paths.
 

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He'd still lose, especially since Limbo is nothing compared to Susanoo. Naruto's clones were stalemating Limbo with Taijutsu and small Rasengan.

The only way his eye has shown to be different is that he can't turn it off, and he can use all of his Sharingan's abilities (Which are also amplified) without having to switch to EMS. Whatever the full extent of his eye is, I doubt its something that surpasses his Susanoo.

He turned it off in the movie and manga.

OT: I don't think he could surpass himself in terms of power, but the other paths can definitely help him use his assets more effectively. I still think they're going to be equal.
 

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w/o excess Nature Energy and the other Bijuu. VoTE Naruto=VoTE Sasuke.

Naruto w/ the energy>>VoTE Sasuke w/o the Bijuu.

That gap should remain the same after the timeskips, when we only take PS, Nature Energy, and Kurama Mode into account. If Rinnegan doesn't let Sasuke bridge the gap between him and Naruto like the Bijuu did, he's weaker. Based on Rinnegan's performance throughout this manga, I think its safe to say that it can't do that.

So I'd say EoS Naruto>EoS Sasuke.

I'd say pretty much this. Sasuke's abilities are definitely extremely hax but most of his abilities
can be countered by Naruto. And Sasuke's preta path won't be able to work on huge amounts of
nature energy. Yes, Sasuke can handle nature energy, but not to the extents that Naruto can.
So with a full kurama + double the nature energy as in VOTE, Naruto's greatest attack will be
too powerful for anything Sasuke can offer and can't be simply blown away by deva, as at best
deva would cause it to detonate and still harm Sasuke. Preta path wouldn't be able to absorb that
much nature energy without Sasuke losing control so in the end Naruto would take this high diff.
 

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Calm down. There will be no rinnegan in part 3, maybe 2 tomes basic sharingan at best U_U
 

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You forgot Amenotejikara for Sasuke and COAT for Naruto.
 

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You said it yourself rinnegan is practically unlimited and sasuke pulled most haxxed CT in 1 day, on the other hand senjutsu of naruto is limited in this field.

If we picture then more advanced human path, outer chains, ashura path mastery, more haxxed preta path etc sasuke should have the edge.

If i recall right nagato was able to kill with mere glare, if sasuke gets that its over.
You forgot Amenotejikara for Sasuke and COAT for Naruto.

COAT is for both.
 

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Naruto has a hashi arm now so he might have mokuton as well. He is an ashura descendant afterall.
 
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