[VS] Naruto and Minato take the gauntlet.

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Does minato have markings outside the battlefield, like the ocean?

Sure but he can't leave and come back.

Forgot to say Edo Madara can beat both together without much effort

Lol he gets raped without difficulty in 2v1.

 

[SeriousDogg]

Stop at 3....

 

[KidGamer65]

--SM infused Myojinmon pin naruto down completely as no way in helll is he breaking free from something even V3 juubi was unable to, once he's immobilised, hashirama uses Kakuan Nittei Sanshu (KNS) to put his kyuubi to sleep, naruto attempting to break free would just result in his face being chojo kobetsud by SS,

Naruto puts down his Avatar, escapes Myojinmon, and then re enters his Avatar. Problem solved.

--VOTE madara handles BM minato just fine, his PS and Kyuubi stall minato until Hashirama brings out SS, and the duo gang bang him, especially when SS alone can throw back all of Minatos TBB right back at him followed by Chojo Kobetsu and PS-infused TBB means that minatos avatar is breached easily

The "Duo" isn't doing jack to them, not when Hashirama has to fight Naruto. Thus its BM Minato vs Madara and Kurama.

-Susanoo can be teleported away.

-All Bijuu Dama get sucked into S/T Barrier and redirected at Madara.

-Flash Bijuu Dama does moderate damage to Susanoo at the very least.

-Madara's Sword Strikes get blocked with the Kurama Avatar.

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto puts down his Avatar, escapes Myojinmon, and then re enters his Avatar. Problem solved.

Naruto putting down his avatar would result in him getting eradicated by chojo kobetsu, especially when his human form doesnt have the durability of the kurama avatar to survive such attacks, meaning he dies,

--Naruto retaliating with TBB would result to SS throwing it right back at him, until his avatar is breached, added with Chojo Kobetsu his avatar is crushed and kakuan nittei sanshu puts him to sleep provided if naruto still survives

--Myojinmon spam is still a nightmare for him when it can stop naruto from attacking in any way whatsoever and allow hashirama to take him down with SS, which is most certainly happening

The "Duo" isn't doing jack to them, not when Hashirama has to fight Naruto. Thus its BM Minato vs Madara and Kurama.

Hashirama or Madara can take either of them down individually so even then naruto and minato lose,

-Susanoo can be teleported away.

Not happening when madara has PS-TBB to keep his distance from minato and when he has PS slashes to prevent minato from reaching him,
not to mention that the whole teleporting susanoo thing makes no sense, especially when the susanoo would go wherever madara would,

-All Bijuu Dama get sucked into S/T Barrier and redirected at Madara.

this is no limits fallacy, at its finest
S/T barrier is not even teleporting more than one target,
not to mention that if theres no marking near madara then the TBB are not being redirected back at him at all,
the sheer magnitude of this battle bypasses FTG completely,

minato is either forming markings or he is combating PS-Kyuubi/SS

--if he forms markings then he is not attacking therefore PS-kyuubi or SS can take him down,

--if he uses his clones then one swing of a PS blade will eradicate them completely,

--any surrounding marked location would get taken out by the magitude of this battle anyways, so FTG iisnt playing much of a factor, and with madara being able to see them through his sharingan and hashirama being able to sense them through his SM, means that they would be wary of them as well

-Flash Bijuu Dama does moderate damage to Susanoo at the very least.

So do the PS-TBB,
however Madara can swing his blade much quicker then minato forms TBB,
and seeing how madara formed 11 PS-TBB to counter Chojo Kobetsu rather quickly means that his attacks formation speed is still faster,

and whats stopping madara to swing his PS blade to blow the TBB away?

-Madara's Sword Strikes get blocked with the Kurama Avatar.

Ok.

 

[KidGamer65]

Naruto putting down his avatar would result in him getting eradicated by chojo kobetsu, especially when his human form doesnt have the durability of the kurama avatar to survive such attacks, meaning he dies,

Then he puts it back up, as I already stated.

--Naruto retaliating with TBB would result to SS throwing it right back at him, until his avatar is breached, added with Chojo Kobetsu his avatar is crushed and kakuan nittei sanshu puts him to sleep provided if naruto still survives

With Minato's help, he can either teleport it directly to the statue, or he can hit it right in the back, or its lower body. Causing it to be disabled.

--Myojinmon spam is still a nightmare for him when it can stop naruto from attacking in any way whatsoever and allow hashirama to take him down with SS, which is most certainly happening

Myojinmon spam is nothing but a great way for Hashirama to waste his chakra since Naruto can put down his Avatar, escape it, and then re enter it before he gets attacked by anything. Or Minato can teleport him to safety.

Hashirama or Madara can take either of them down individually so even then naruto and minato lose,

This is a team match. Not an individual match.

Not happening when madara has PS-TBB to keep his distance from minato and when he has PS slashes to prevent minato from reaching him,

Bijuu Dama aren't going to make Minato keep his distance. S/T Barrier absorbs them, or Minato overpowers them with his own BD. PS Slashes get blocked, and his Tails can extend. So there is nothing stopping him from reaching Madara.

not to mention that the whole teleporting susanoo thing makes no sense, especially when the susanoo would go wherever madara would,

Uh, no, it wouldn't. It'd go, but he wouldn't. If Susanoo was connected to the user like that, then Gaara and Onoki wouldn't have been able to separate Madara from his. Either Madara gets warped out or Susanoo gets warped away.

this is no limits fallacy, at its finest
S/T barrier is not even teleporting more than one target,

All that matters is size. Minato's barrier can handle something as large as the Juubi's Bijuu Dama, so standard Bijuu Dama from Madara isn't an issue. At all.

not to mention that if theres no marking near madara then the TBB are not being redirected back at him at all,

That's why all he needs to do is put one there. Susanoo can be marked via extending Chakra Arms, he can plant a bunch of Kunai by throwing them, or he can have a clone get near his Susanoo, towards the rear where Madara won't be able to see it, and then release it there.

the sheer magnitude of this battle bypasses FTG completely,

Not really. Not when Minato can mark areas much larger than that of the Juubi. Not to mention that only applies if he's using it to escape attacks, which he isn't doing. So this makes no sense.

minato is either forming markings or he is combating PS-Kyuubi/SS

Clones say hi.

--if he forms markings then he is not attacking therefore PS-kyuubi or SS can take him down,

Clones say hi.

--if he uses his clones then one swing of a PS blade will eradicate them completely,

Cause BM Minato is going to watch and let his clones die, even though he's supposed to be fighting the Avatar in the first place. Lol, come on now. BM Minato blocks it.

--any surrounding marked location would get taken out by the magitude of this battle anyways, so FTG iisnt playing much of a factor,

Uh, no, it wouldn't. Marks on the ground aren't going to be destroyed, Kunai on the ground won't be destroyed if they are far away enough from the main area of combat, and Minato can have clones stationed at areas far away from the battlefield, which also won't be destroyed as they won't even be in the middle of the fight.

and with madara being able to see them through his sharingan and hashirama being able to sense them through his SM, means that they would be wary of them as well

Not a big deal when they can't do anything about it, not when they have to deal with Kurama Mode Naruto and Minato.

however Madara can swing his blade much quicker then minato forms TBB,

Irrelevant as Minato can block it with his tails, and still fire the Bijuu Dama.

and seeing how madara formed 11 PS-TBB to counter Chojo Kobetsu rather quickly means that his attacks formation speed is still faster,

Lol. Not sure if serious. Forming 11 Bijuu Dama is in no way, shape, or form faster than forming 1 large Bijuu Dama, not when Naruto and Minato's charge time is pretty much no different from a standard Bijuu Dama's charge time no matter what kind of BD they use. (Continuous, Flash, the Bijuu sized one)

So no, its not faster. And even if it is, 11 Bijuu Dama aren't going to be charged, fired, and landed on Minato before he can use his own Bijuu Dama. Flash Bijuu Dama trucks through Madara's Bijuu Dama and then Flash Dama explodes and Madara's Susanoo takes heavy damage.

and whats stopping madara to swing his PS blade to blow the TBB away?

When you can get me some feats of PS being strong enough to blow a Flash Bijuu Dama, that dwarfed Bijuu (and is much heavier than they were, given the fact a small Bijuu Dama was heavier than KN4, and the large Bijuu Dama caused the Bijuu to sink into the ground) then we can talk about this. But since they don't exist, there is nothing to discuss here.

 

[Demonic.]

Multiple sm tbb barrages takes care of that. Everything else can be swatted away by a mere chakra roar.

You're an idiot. Madara already used a barrage of TBB's on SS.

 

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We all know Edo Madara>>SM Hashirama

 

[BenjerminGaye]

You're an idiot. Madara already used a barrage of TBB's on SS.

Sage mode enhanced tbb's? I think not. And the end result was a destroyed ss.

 

[Xlad]

We all know Edo Madara>>SM Hashirama

I feel like negging you. Your kind is such a nuisance.

 

[VongolaX]

Two or three

 

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We all know Edo Madara>>SM Hashirama

Lol that's why he needed BZ to get out of Myoujinmon?

Two or three

How?

 

[SailorMoonLover]

They stop at 3

 

[Yami no Kagutsuchi]

They stop at 1.EMS Sasuke beats Naruto and EMS Madara beats BM Minato

 

[SeriousDogg]

They stop at 1.EMS Sasuke beats Naruto and EMS Madara beats BM Minato

It's Madara without Kyuubi, they got no chance, they are ripped.

BM Naruto>>>EMS Sasuke
BM Edo Minato>>>>EMS Madara (no Kyuubi)

 

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They stop at 1.EMS Sasuke beats Naruto and EMS Madara beats BM Minato

Lol EMS Sasuke gets beaten med-diff by BM Naruto alone. Same goes for BM Minato and Madara.

Together they roflstomp them.

 

[Benjamin King]

They are not passing 2, at all. Sasuke is not even needed, due to the lack of feats. Madara with Kurama slaughters them.

The only real reason why Minato was able to mark the battlefield with FTG markings, is because he came prepared and entered the battle after he had set his plans. This isn't happening with Madara fusing his PS on top of Kurama, and gaining enough fire-power to destroy the entire marked battlefield effortlessly. It's not actually happening with PS throwing shock-waves at Minato's moments to teleport, and those shock-waves were able to travel at mountain ranges. [

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] As the circles show, the mountains that are far behind the mountains surrounding Madara were cut in half; meaning PS's DC expands greater than a standard TBB. Anyways, 100% Kurama at Madara's control is superior to Naruto's and Minato's, because it first has greater DC due to the greater Chakra and size [

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[BenjerminGaye]

They are not passing 2, at all. Sasuke is not even needed, due to the lack of feats. Madara with Kurama slaughters them.

The only real reason why Minato was able to mark the battlefield with FTG markings, is because he came prepared and entered the battle after he had set his plans. This isn't happening with Madara fusing his PS on top of Kurama, and gaining enough fire-power to destroy the entire marked battlefield effortlessly. It's not actually happening with PS throwing shock-waves at Minato's moments to teleport, and those shock-waves were able to travel at mountain ranges. [

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] As the circles show, the mountains that are far behind the mountains surrounding Madara were cut in half; meaning PS's DC expands greater than a standard TBB. Anyways, 100% Kurama at Madara's control is superior to Naruto's and Minato's, because it first has greater DC due to the greater Chakra and size [

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]. Secondly, Madara is able to collaborative his own attacks and defences (Perfect Susanoo) alongside Kurama's own stats, thus giving a far greater fire-power and defences than that of 50% Kurama at Naruto's and Minato's. Result of the match-up is this:

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Bm avatar tanked juubi lazer. Nothing in madara's entire arsenal is anywhere near comparable in power to that. Lol

 

[Benjamin King]

Bm avatar tanked juubi lazer. Nothing in madara's entire arsenal is anywhere near comparable in power to that. Lol

Yet Kurama couldn't tank and barely survived SM Futon: Rasenshuriken? [

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[Demonic.]

Bm avatar tanked juubi lazer. Nothing in madara's entire arsenal is anywhere near comparable in power to that. Lol

Why do you bother quoting that guy? He once tried to measure how hot Madara's Katon was and came to the conclusion that it was hotter than the Sun

 

[Benjamin King]

Why do you bother quoting that guy? He once tried to measure how hot Madara's Katon was and came to the conclusion that it was hotter than the Sun

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